More Relaties About Baku 'the Azeri City' Options

[Hosank]

The Battle of Baku was a battle of the Caucasus Campaign of World War I that took place in the vicinity of Baku, in 1918. The Ottoman-Azerbaijani forces of the Army of Islam led by Nuri Pasha won the battle against a coalition of British, Armenian and White Russian forces led by Lionel Dunsterville.

[edit] Polemics about the British Troops Memorial in Baku

In recent years a Memorial dedicated to the 53 British soldiers who died in the battle was erected in Baku. But, among a large part of Azeri public opinion, the British were the strongest sponsor of the Armenian rule in Baku and they were in the city for imperialistic reasons and for their own interests (to seize the oil wells). So, the British were fighting for a "wrong cause" and there was no reason to dedicate a Memorial to soldiers who helped the Armenian nationalists. Authorities replied that not looking to the fact that the British troops were on the wrong side, they need to be respected and to have a place where their grandsons can put flowers on. Observators suggested that this was just a mere political move to improve the friendship relation between Azerbaijan and United Kingdom. However, this move wasn't appreciated by many Azeris, also taking in account the fact that the memorial was vandalized several times.

Centrocaspian Dictatorship
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Diktatura Tsentrokaspiya
Centrocaspian Dictatorship
Unrecognized state
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Capital Baku
Government Dictatorship
Historical era World War I
- Established August 1, 1918
- Battle of Baku August 26-September 14
- Fall of Baku September 15, 1918
- Armistice of Mudros November 30, 1918

The Centrocaspian Dictatorship (Russian: Диктатура Центрокаспия, Diktatura Tsentrokaspiya) was a British-backed anti-Soviet government founded in Baku on August 1, 1918. The name derices from the abbreviation "Centrocaspiy" (Tsentrokaspiy) for "Central Committee of the Caspian Military Fleet (Центральный комитет Каспийской военной флотилии; fleet inherited from the Russian Empire).

This regime replaced the pro-Soviet Baku Commune that collapsed on July 26, 1918, when the Bolsheviks were clearly outvoted in the Baku Soviet and were forced out of power.

The new government was composed by the Socialist-Revolutionary Party, the Mensheviks and the Armenian national movement which is known as the Dashnaks (Armenian Revolutionary Federation ).

All these forces asked British help in order to stop the advancing Ottoman Army of Islam that was marching towards Baku. British forces under General Dunsterville occupied the city and helped the mainly Dashnak-Armenian forces to defend the capital in the Battle of Baku. However, Baku fell on September 15, 1918 and an Azeri-Ottoman army entered the capital, causing British forces and much of the Armenian population to flee. The Ottoman Empire signed the Armistice of Mudros on November 30, 1918 and the British occupational force re-entered Baku.

[prot9999]

Where the source? Because almost all is lie. I'm sure all text from armenian source. Why you dont putting here real text or why you afraid putting source link last row?

I will upload real and international document on youtube, googlevideo nearly time. You can watch all with all evidences.

Regards,

[HayArsen]

Baku's turkic population was only 10%. MAjority was Russian, Armenian and Jewish.

[prot9999]

Baku's turkic population was only 10%. MAjority was Russian, Armenian and Jewish.

60 years before Yerevan Azeri population was %96, Baku was %88. Yerevan and Baku Turkic cities.

Also yours did killed Jews and Azeri peoples and today Armenia %99.9 Armenian. So "Mono Countrie" today. No any Turk, Azeri, Jews living in Armenia.

Regards,

[HayArsen]

60 years before Yerevan Azeri population was %96, Baku was %88. Yerevan and Baku Turkic cities.

Also yours did killed Jews and Azeri peoples and today Armenia %99.9 Armenian. So "Mono Countrie" today. No any Turk, Azeri, Jews living in Armenia.

Regards,

There are Jews and azeris living in Armenia. azeris are married to Armenians, but wont come out. And dont throw in random numbers there retard.

[Hosank]

armenia is 95% armenian.

there are 10 000 jews living in armenia, and 6000 azerbaijanis.

how many armenians are left in their traditional homeland outside of artsakh??????
how many armenians now live in turkey? 70 000?...they used to be 3 million, in their ancestral homeland
lol...i keep telling you...yerevan was never a turkish city.yerevan was Erebuni 3000 years ago, capital of Urartu, the ancient armenian empire.

for a while it had a large population of persians, not turks.

baku was built by persians, and had a large armenian population..before the azerbaijani scum arrived.

source is wikipedia btw.

[irlandahay]

Where the source? Because almost all is lie. I'm sure all text from armenian source. Why you dont putting here real text or why you afraid putting source link last row?

I will upload real and international document on youtube, googlevideo nearly time. You can watch all with all evidences.

Regards,

haha youtube and google video arnt interntaionnal documents you dumb ######

[irlandahay]

60 years before Yerevan Azeri population was %96, Baku was %88. Yerevan and Baku Turkic cities.

Also yours did killed Jews and Azeri peoples and today Armenia %99.9 Armenian. So "Mono Countrie" today. No any Turk, Azeri, Jews living in Armenia.

Regards,

yerevan used to be erebuni and is one of the oldest metropolises in history wich predates athens. it existed before the word "azeri" was ever heard of (azeri came out not even 90 years ago).

there are jews living in armenia, there are also 5000 Assyrians, there are a big yezidi population. armenains killed no one. turks are too nationnalistic and retarded to want to live in armenia. There are also alot of iranians moving in these days.

your the biggest idiot ever to set foot on this forum and I still cant believe you werent banned yet you dumb turkish pece of darn it!

[prot9999]

armenia is 95% armenian.

there are 10 000 jews living in armenia, and 6000 azerbaijanis.

how many armenians are left in their traditional homeland outside of artsakh??????
how many armenians now live in turkey? 70 000?...they used to be 3 million, in their ancestral homeland
lol...i keep telling you...yerevan was never a turkish city.yerevan was Erebuni 3000 years ago, capital of Urartu, the ancient armenian empire.

for a while it had a large population of persians, not turks.

baku was built by persians, and had a large armenian population..before the azerbaijani scum arrived.

source is wikipedia btw.

And we beleived to you? Are you living Armenia or Canada? Your dont know any about armenian LOL

Ethnic groups:
Armenian 97.9%, Yezidi (Kurd) 1.3%, Russian 0.5%, other 0.3% (2001 census)

Religions:
Armenian Apostolic 94.7%, other Christian 4%, Yezidi (monotheist with elements of nature worship) 1.3%

Jews???

Source : https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/am.html

So, %98 are armenian and no Azeri, no Turk , no Jews! CIA book are liar?


Always lie always lie, when your talking right? Do you think mistake to me with these lies? Armenia big racist countrie in World. Never any Muslim or Jews can live in Armenia, impossible this. We are know what happening in Khodjali. 5 years childrens did raped and killed by these Armenians. Also pregnant womans did killed same Armenians. So Armenians are also stolen Erivan city from Turks. Always lie, always stole, always fake genocide, always unsources texts more more more. Armenians live style like this. Racism, blood, fake, money, anti-semitic, anti-muslim and more....

You can look info about Turkey same CIA book. Maybe amazing but reals, here living 56.000 Jews and 133.000 Christian, 13 million Kurd (%20 and almost %8.5 are based Turk). Not like Armenia...

Regards,

[Hosank]

do you know why all these minorities live in turkey?

because it is their land, and you just happen to live on it.
armenia is the land of armenians...it is only natural that it be populated by armenians....

here is the 2001 sensus in armenia...

Republican Armenia Censuses
Year Total Urban Rural Armenians Yazidis Russians Assyrians Ukrainians Kurds Greeks Others
2001 [5] 3,213,011 2,066,153 (64.3%) 1,146,858 (35.7%) 3,145,354 (97.9%) 40,620 (1.2%) 14,660 (0.4%) 3,409 (0.1%) 1,633 (0.05%) 1,519 (0.04%) 1,176 (0.03%) 4,640 (0.1%)

http://www.osce.org/documents/oy/2002/01/148_en.pdf

irlandahay, thank you for repeating what everyone else has mentioned, but, in some cases, you are wrong, there is no important number of iranian nationals moving to armenia, though there are a few, most iranians in armenia are students, and thus not permanent residents.

And we beleived to you? Are you living Armenia or Canada? Your dont know any about armenian LOL

and you? living in Constantinople? does that make you know more about armenia?
i have been to armenia several times, and i have family there, i think i know what my country is like.

So, %98 are armenian and no Azeri, no Turk , no Jews! CIA book are liar?

no, you are a liar, the cia factbook did not totally look into ethnic minorities inside armenia for it is such a small county that minorities are small..

infact, the wife of armenia's first president, levon ter-petrossian, was a jew. there is a substancial number of azeris still living in armenia,

Hranoush Kharatyan, Head of Department on National Minorities and Religion Matters of Armenia, has made the following statement in February 2007:
“ Yes, ethnic Azerbaijanis are living in Armenia. I know many of them but I can't give numbers. Armenia has signed a UN convention according to which the states take an obligation not to publish statistical data related to groups under threat or who consider themselves to be under threat if these groups are not numerous and might face problems. During the census, a number of people described their ethnicity as Azerbaijani. I know some Azerbaijanis who came here with their wives or husbands. Some prefer not to speak out about their ethnic affiliation; others take it more easily. We spoke with some known Azerbaijanis residing in Armenia but they haven't manifested a will to form an ethnic community yet.[23]

numbers of greeks live in armenia:

Armenian Greeks form the majority in areas along part Armenia's northern border with Georgia, in the northern part of the Lori district. The Largest communities can be found in Alaverdi and Yerevan [1], followed by Vanadzor, Gyumri, Stepanavan, Hankavan and Noyemberian. Greeks in Armenia number around 1,800, with staggered emigration to other former Soviet republics and Greece for economic reasons. Greeks and Armenians often live together in mixed communities north of the Armenian border in Georgia.

Assyrians...

History

Assyrians were living in what is today the Republic of Armenia during ancient times, as the Kingdom of Urartu was under the Assyrian empire from 825 BC to 617 BC. Today's Assyrian population in Armenia are descendants of settlers who came starting in the early nineteenth century during the Russo-Persian War (1826-1828), when thousands refugees fled their homeland in the areas around Urmia in Persia. In the beginning of the 20th century, many came from what is today Southeastern Turkey, specifically the Hakkari region, where it was common to have Assyrians and Armenians living in the same villages. Assyrians, like their Armenian neighbors, suffered during a genocide by the Ottoman Turks, in which an estimated 275,000 Assyrians perished.[3] As many Armenians fled Anatolia for what is today Armenia, many Assyrians followed as well, citing it as the only "Christian haven" in the region. Throughout history, relations between the Assyrians and Armenian majority have tended to be friendly, as both groups have practiced Christianity since ancient times and have suffered through Islamic persecution.

[edit] Current situation

The Assyrians have managed to both integrate with Armenian society and maintain their own ethnic identity, as there are classes teaching the Assyrian language. Most Assyrians are fluent in Armenian and Russian as well. Assyrians in Armenia today mostly belong to Assyrian Church of the East, but there is a small community belonging to the Chaldean Catholic Church as well. They mostly work in the fields of gardening, agriculture and viniculture. There are big Assyrian communities in the region of Verin Dvin, Arzni and Dmitrov of the Ararat district. There is a Assyrian Youth Center in the Armenian capital, Yerevan. Mixed marriages between Assyrians and Armenians are becoming more common today, where as Assyrians were strictly self-isolated in the two centuries before.

In 2003, the community established the "Assyrian Center BetNahrain", a club that promotes the studying and dissemination of the Assyrian language, culture, history and traditions, to the general public.[4]

yezidis..

Many Yazidis came to Armenia and Georgia during the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries to escape religious persecution, as they were oppressed by the Ottoman Turks and the Sunni Kurds tried to convert them to Islam. The Yazidis were massacred alongside the Armenians during the Armenian Genocide, causing many to flee to the Russian held parts of Armenia[2]. There was some measure of solidarity between the Armenians and Yazidis, as Yazidis of Mount Senjâr helped to shelter Armenians during the Armenian Genocide[3]. The first ever Yazidi school opened in Armenia in 1920.[4]

Due to the ethnic tension created by the war with Azerbaijan, the Yazidi community has renounced its ties with the mostly Muslim Kurds that fled the country and tried to establish itself as a distinct ethnic group. The Yezidis showed Armenian patriotism during the Nagorno-Karabakh war when many died in service.[5]

are you sure we are the racists? and don't you dare pretend that i did not give you any proof this time...


anyways, you live in constantinople right? so im sure you heard about the german who was murdered by nationalists, and of course the "you will not devide the turkish nation" graffiti on hellenic schools

[irlandahay]

irlandahay, thank you for repeating what everyone else has mentioned, but, in some cases, you are wrong, there is no important number of iranian nationals moving to armenia, though there are a few, most iranians in armenia are students, and thus not permanent residents.
and you? living in Constantinople? does that make you know more about armenia?
i have been to armenia several times, and i have family there, i think i know what my country is like.
no, you are a liar, the cia factbook did not totally look into ethnic minorities inside armenia for it is such a small county that minorities are small..

Hosank, thank you for repeating what I had just said plus adding your little touches to it. thank you for repeating what has been said countless times on this forum even before your arrival. thank you for realising who your true friends are and not hesitating to put them down at any chance you get.

good work hosank!
vori tsak!

[Hosank]

my dear irlandahay.

i type in the interest of justice, and patriotism, if these are ideologies that you respect, then gladly, you can be my ally.

i am not here to defend people based on their ethnicity, for instance, just because a turk is a turk, does not necessarily mean his comments are wrong, likewise, all that armenians say is not always right.

i try to use as many facts as possible, in order to comment in a professional way, using the least possible amount of personal attacks against others, something you should try to.

my point is this.
and i have told you a year ago.
i will not defend your points if they are wrong. i will if they are right, i know who my friends are, you do?
is this a competition of seniority?

now, i hope we may all put our differences aside and focus on the discussions at hands instead of calling eachother names.

[irlandahay]

my dear irlandahay.

i type in the interest of justice, and patriotism, if these are ideologies that you respect, then gladly, you can be my ally.

i am not here to defend people based on their ethnicity, for instance, just because a turk is a turk, does not necessarily mean his comments are wrong, likewise, all that armenians say is not always right.

i try to use as many facts as possible, in order to comment in a professional way, using the least possible amount of personal attacks against others, something you should try to.

my point is this.
and i have told you a year ago.
i will not defend your points if they are wrong. i will if they are right, i know who my friends are, you do?
is this a competition of seniority?

now, i hope we may all put our differences aside and focus on the discussions at hands instead of calling eachother names.

I have been on this forum much longer then you have and I used to think like you. unfortunately turks cannot be dealt with other then insults.

prove to me that any of my arguments were wrong...and while your at it, prove to me that cyprus was ever under armenian rule?! your whole tree trunk jesus theory seems to fall apart doesnt it?

I'm not asking you to defend me, I'm saying if you can do better then do so, other wise STFU!
want me to post all the personnal insults u "never" hurled at the turks?!

[Hosank]

?

I have been on this forum much longer then you

obviously, for you, it is a contest of seniority.

I used to think like you. unfortunately turks cannot be dealt with other then insults.

no my friend, i have learned long ago, that convincing a turk is impossible (check my article about turkish education to see why) but the whole point is to silence them at every step.

prove to me that any of my arguments were wrong

irlandahay, i never said your comments were wrong, infact many of them are quite good, and i respect them, i do not understand what you are driving at.

and while your at it, prove to me that cyprus was ever under armenian rule?!

lol, for christ sakes, i put the book infront of you, how could you forget? and i posted it on the thread 'cyprus' if you want to see it again..

your whole tree trunk jesus theory seems to fall apart doesnt it?

nope, i don't see how...i think it holds quite well actually...

want me to post all the personnal insults u "never" hurled at the turks?!

i doubt you would find many, though im positive i have done so in context, but i too am trying to reduce it, as we all should, for blind hate speech does not make our cause advance any further.

and what purpose would that serve? other then to divide the armenians even further????
if you wish to sow the seeds of decent in the armenian people, i will not take any part in it.
i hope that this pointless argument will end right here, because it has for me

[prot9999]

do you know why all these minorities live in turkey?

because it is their land, and you just happen to live on it.
armenia is the land of armenians...it is only natural that it be populated by armenians....

here is the 2001 sensus in armenia...

Republican Armenia Censuses
Year Total Urban Rural Armenians Yazidis Russians Assyrians Ukrainians Kurds Greeks Others
2001 [5] 3,213,011 2,066,153 (64.3%) 1,146,858 (35.7%) 3,145,354 (97.9%) 40,620 (1.2%) 14,660 (0.4%) 3,409 (0.1%) 1,633 (0.05%) 1,519 (0.04%) 1,176 (0.03%) 4,640 (0.1%)

http://www.osce.org/documents/oy/2002/01/148_en.pdf

My source (CIA World Book) date are = 17 April, 2007 Your source based 6 year before. We are know, in 2002 - 2003 of the year 1.5 Million peoples leave Armenia. You can't mistake to me. Today Armenia are %98 Armenian. My source everyday updated.

infact, the wife of armenia's first president, levon ter-petrossian, was a jew. there is a substancial number of azeris still living in armenia,

numbers of greeks live in armenia:
Assyrians...
yezidis..

How much? Here (in Turkey) are living 10.000+ Dutch, 8000+ Senegal and from 72 countrie peoples. I dont count all to you. Jews but how much jews? How much Turk and Azeri? In Turkey living 100.000+ Armenians and here Turkish Armenians have Church, Patric and equal rights with all citizens. In Armenia? Have any Mosque? Have any right? Dont misteke yourself, Armenia today "Mono Countrie". Because today in Armenian racism, anti-Islam and anti-semitism do very high level. Only making business with Irain, why dont make with other neighbours?

are you sure we are the racists? and don't you dare pretend that i did not give you any proof this time...
anyways, you live in constantinople right? so im sure you heard about the german who was murdered by nationalists, and of course the "you will not devide the turkish nation" graffiti on hellenic schools

I dont know any name of the "constantinopole" city in Turkey, you are dont know Turkey city names, sorry. I live Central of The Turkey, you can see my sign.

Yours making racism against Turks. We are calling yours for historical problems solving but yours just making tons of racism. Illegal laws, unsources stories, lie films and all 24 April same lie.

Your racism increase our hatred against Armenia and Armenians in my countrie. We never want this but yours racism cause this hatred. We are not problem with any peoples in Turkey but some hater guys did killed Hrant Dink. Yours never understand this, and maybe yours easy this subject. But Hrant Dink was very rare to us than yours. Your racism did cause killed Hrant Dink.. So called genocide words and your racism just increase hatred level in Turkey against to yours. You can sure this.

Of cource, I know killed 3 Christian missionar and this our internal problem. We don't founded ASALA like terorist organization and we dont financed for killed innocent peoples. Here living 70+ million peoples and of course, never all peoples are same. I was write here lots of times; for me, Muslim = Christian = Jews. Maybe yours not like this but, almost all Turkey peoples admitting this like do. Dead Turkish Christian peoples our brothers, like Muslims, like Jews. In Turkey all peoples brother for us. Yours never understand this, should be live.

Also...

Please look 2007 data about Armenian. No industrie, no development, no natural richs but much racism, Anti-Islam, Anti-Seminizm. This your results and your crimes.

Regards,

[davit]

My source (CIA World Book) date are = 17 April, 2007 Your source based 6 year before. We are know, in 2002 - 2003 of the year 1.5 Million peoples leave Armenia. You can't mistake to me. Today Armenia are %98 Armenian. My source everyday updated.



How much? Here (in Turkey) are living 10.000+ Dutch, 8000+ Senegal and from 72 countrie peoples. I dont count all to you. Jews but how much jews? How much Turk and Azeri? In Turkey living 100.000+ Armenians and here Turkish Armenians have Church, Patric and equal rights with all citizens. In Armenia? Have any Mosque? Have any right? Dont misteke yourself, Armenia today "Mono Countrie". Because today in Armenian racism, anti-Islam and anti-semitism do very high level. Only making business with Irain, why dont make with other neighbours?



I dont know any name of the "constantinopole" city in Turkey, you are dont know Turkey city names, sorry. I live Central of The Turkey, you can see my sign.

Yours making racism against Turks. We are calling yours for historical problems solving but yours just making tons of racism. Illegal laws, unsources stories, lie films and all 24 April same lie.

Your racism increase our hatred against Armenia and Armenians in my countrie. We never want this but yours racism cause this hatred. We are not problem with any peoples in Turkey but some hater guys did killed Hrant Dink. Yours never understand this, and maybe yours easy this subject. But Hrant Dink was very rare to us than yours. Your racism did cause killed Hrant Dink.. So called genocide words and your racism just increase hatred level in Turkey against to yours. You can sure this.

Of cource, I know killed 3 Christian missionar and this our internal problem. We don't founded ASALA like terorist organization and we dont financed for killed innocent peoples. Here living 70+ million peoples and of course, never all peoples are same. I was write here lots of times; for me, Muslim = Christian = Jews. Maybe yours not like this but, almost all Turkey peoples admitting this like do. Dead Turkish Christian peoples our brothers, like Muslims, like Jews. In Turkey all peoples brother for us. Yours never understand this, should be live.

Also...

Please look 2007 data about Armenian. No industrie, no development, no natural richs but much racism, Anti-Islam, Anti-Seminizm. This your results and your crimes.

Regards,

hosank is saying there are some jews living in armenia and you saying "hosank your lying threre are 98% armenians in armenia" what were you trying to prove by that ? did hosank say 20% of armenia are jews or what?

dont be mistake yourselfes .

what turkey in 2020?....

[Hosank]

lol, central of the turkey....

im quite sure that the cia does not update you every day with information about armenia..i mean..unless you have nothing better to do in your life

[intergalacticman]

Republic of armenia census
Total 3,213,011 in 2001

Armenians 3,145,354 (97.9%)

Russians 14,660 (0.4%)

Greeks 1,176 (0.03%)

CIA world factbook info:

Total 2,971,650 (July 2007 est.)
Armenian 97.9%, Yezidi (Kurd) 1.3%, Russian 0.5%, other 0.3%


this is why there are little to no moques in armenia, THEY'RE ALL CHRISTIAN!!:

Armenian Apostolic 94.7%, other Christian 4%, Yezidi (monotheist with elements of nature worship)1.3%


literacy rate in armenia
total population: 98.6%
in turkey....
total population: 86.5%
i think armenians are more educated than turks, hmm..., prolly to keep them in ignorance.

in turkey, where are all the armenians??
Turkish 80%, Kurdish 20% (estimated)

also, the cia doesnt update every day, only when their info changes

[Hosank]

yes, but prot has secret agents posted in armenia at all times who inform him about every birth and death of an armenian citizen, as well as his ethnicity and religion.

then all this information is sent to prot's special statistics processing facilities in his basement

there is one active mosque in Yerevan, but that is mostly for persian nationals who study in armenia, and the few resident muslims.

there are also 3 19th century persian mosques (now closed) in shushan, artsakh

[HayArsen]

i think there is one mosque in Yerevan.

I had someone come from Armenian recently and she told me that in Yerevan now their are lots arab and indian people studying at university. Also some workers come from China. Mainy living around "haghtanak zbosaygi" (victory park")

[Hosank]

yah, there is one persian mosque.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8...mosqueyerev.jpg
yerevan's blue mosque

many persian students worship there, and before the war, the azeris living in erevan would pray there as well

[intergalacticman]

Please look 2007 data about Armenian. No industrie, no development, no natural richs but much racism, Anti-Islam, Anti-Seminizm. This your results and your crimes.

Regards,

well according to your same source, armenia's industries include diamond-processing, metal-cutting machine tools, forging-pressing machines, electric motors, tires, knitted wear, hosiery, shoes, silk fabric, chemicals, trucks, instruments, microelectronics, jewelry manufacturing, software development, food processing, brandy
and agriculture (grapes).
i didnt see any racism.

unemployment rates-
10.2% plus underemployment of 4% (2006 est.)-turkey
7.4% (November 2006 est.)- armenia

[intergalacticman]

has anyone noticed prot9999 has been off the forum for like a month

[Hosank]

yeh, he tends to do that...

he comes on with a bunch of lies, we slap him in the face with it, then he dissapears for 3 months, only com come back with the same crap

[Hosank]

yeh, he tends to do that...

he comes on with a bunch of lies, we slap him in the face with it, then he dissapears for 3 months, only com come back with the same crap