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> Watch Pm Bibi Make Peace Instead Of Professing Professor Benny Morris
Danielet
post 02/22/09 04:01 PM
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Politically bipolar, ATOMIC BOY, Benny Morris wrote a column justifying Israel's nukes.http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/30/opinion/30morris.html?pagewanted=print But that's not Netayahu's means-to-an-end, you'll see. omment: Benny Morris, like a lot of academics, is trying to have it both ways, summing up into a common academic disease, Schizophrenia. So he can be quoted by both sides. A nuclear device needs testing. Israel's testing was done by its close ally APARTHEID South Africa. Iran has no allies who can do the testing of its bombs. Israel has nuclear arms-- as have India and Pakistan-- and, SOME DAY MAYBE, Iran. The UN can't call for just emptying one bottle. Israel THREE TIMES almost used its nuclear arms as an Armageddon solution-- not to win wars but to end it all in a flash without regard for the consequences. But then the Israeli rulers were rather typically crazy East Europeans who, genetically typical of East Euros (I know, I'm one), suffered from a psychotic fatal/hopeless sense about life as doom (the fact that these happened to be secular Jews is genetically besides the point). The new sabras are a new breed, more modern, more practical and far more confident that with so much horse manure in Mideast politics there must be a pony somewhere in there. They also appreciate faits accompis as obstacles you go around, not try to knock down. They adapt to what is and are immune to the hasbara of their gloom&doom East Euro parents. Right now, speaking for the sabras, Netanyahu wants to pick up his promise where he left off when Finance Minister for Sharon: to make Israel free of the big welfare check it gets sneaked through Congress every year ($14 billion due soon from a totally broke USA). To do this he wants to lay aside all political issues while he integrates Israel's economy with that of the Palestinians. Then, eventually, two modern states-- one Jewish, one Palestinians-- could well impress the Sunni Arabs on living together in a sandbox. Economically unable to go nuclear, in fear of the Iran illusionists, the Sunni Arabs may well be forced turn to Israel for cover under its nuclear umbrella. In return Netanyahu will ask for economic integration...eventually political. Suffering grave illness from an untenable one crop (oil) banana republic economy, the Arabs will realize that to meet the expectations of their youth majorities, they must sci-tech modernize...IN COME ISRAEL'S UNIVERSITIES, pedagogic marvels all. A lot of sabra PhDs I know are learning Arabic instead of engaging in a reverse aliyah to LA, as many have been doing for some time. They are betting on a future with the Arabs that begins in fear of Iran's puny A-bomb. Netanyahu, luckily, is too much of a dedicated sabra opportunist/optimist who wants the best for Israel and will say anything to get elected, though he realizes that Israel's future doesn't depend on Israel's nukes nor on Iran's not-nukes, but on regional economic integration. He may be the Jewish Nixon--Mazel tov Bibi! Daniel E. Teodoru
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post 06/12/09 03:46 PM
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Iran has no allies who can do the testing of its bombs


i do believe that north Korea would suffice nicely.


N Korea helping Iran with nuclear testing

By Con Coughlin
Published: 12:01AM GMT 24 Jan 2007

North Korea is helping Iran to prepare an underground nuclear test similar to the one Pyongyang carried out last year.

Under the terms of a new understanding between the two countries, the North Koreans have agreed to share all the data and information they received from their successful test last October with Teheran's nuclear scientists.




North Korea provoked an international outcry when it successfully fired a bomb at a secret underground location and Western intelligence officials are convinced that Iran is working on its own weapons programme.

A senior European defence official told The Daily Telegraph that North Korea had invited a team of Iranian nuclear scientists to study the results of last October's underground test to assist Teheran's preparations to conduct its own — possibly by the end of this year.

There were unconfirmed reports at the time of the Korean firing that an Iranian team was present. Iranian military advisers regularly visit North Korea to participate in missile tests.

Now the long-standing military co-operation between the countries has been extended to nuclear issues.

As a result, senior western military officials are deeply concerned that the North Koreans' technical superiority will allow the Iranians to accelerate development of their own nuclear weapon.

"The Iranians are working closely with the North Koreans to study the results of last year's North Korean nuclear bomb test," said the European defence official.

"We have identified increased activity at all of Iran's nuclear facilities since the turn of the year," he said.

"All the indications are that the Iranians are working hard to prepare for their own underground nuclear test."

The disclosure of the nuclear co-operation between North Korea and Iran comes as Teheran seems set on a collision course with the West over its nuclear programme, although it insists it is entirely peaceful.

Both countries were named in President George W Bush's famous "axis of evil" State of the Union speech in 2002.

The United Nations Security Council has unanimously authorised the imposition of "smart" sanctions against Iran.

This is because of its refusal to suspend its uranium enrichment programme, which most Western intelligence agencies believe is part of a clandestine nuclear weapons programme.

France expressed concern yesterday over an Iranian decision to bar 38 UN nuclear inspectors from Iran, claiming that Teheran appeared to be singling out westerners from the inspection team.

Intelligence estimates vary about how long it could take Teheran to produce a nuclear warhead. But defence officials monitoring the growing co-operation between North Korea and Iran believe the Iranians could be in a position to test fire a low-grade device — less than half a kiloton — within 12 months.

The precise location of the Iranian test site is unknown, but is likely to be located in a mountainous region where it is difficult for spy satellites to pick up any unusual activity.

Teheran successfully concealed the existence of several key nuclear sites — including the controversial Natanz uranium enrichment complex — until their locations were disclosed by Iranian dissidents three years ago.

Western intelligence agencies have reported an increase in the number of North Korean and Iranian scientists travelling between the two countries.

The increased co-operation on nuclear issues began last November when a team of Iranian nuclear scientists met their North Korean counterparts to study the technical and political implications of Pyongyang's nuclear test.

The Iranians are reported to have been encouraged by the fact that no punitive action was taken against North Korea, despite the international outcry that greeted the underground firing.

This has persuaded the Iranian regime to press ahead with its own nuclear programme with the aim of testing a low-grade device, which would be difficult for international inspectors to detect.

iran/n. korea nukes

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now since this comes sooo early in the article which was sooo recently written but years after my source, i would like to have the 'truth challenged' Danielet respond before i examine the rest of her article. time and tide wait for no one and neither do i, so i await only a short time.











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post 06/12/09 03:50 PM
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North Korea tests nuclear weapon 'as powerful as Hiroshima bomb'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/may/2...ma-nuclear-test

so now n. Korea has successfully tested a nuke and also has a relationship with Iran.
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post 06/12/09 03:54 PM
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Economically unable to go nuclear, in fear of the Iran illusionists, the Sunni Arabs may well be forced turn to Israel for cover under its nuclear umbrella.


are we being told the Saudis (Sunnis) don't have the bucks to buy nuclear power!!!???
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