Erdogan Wants Equality For Turks In Greece Options

[prot9999]

Erdogan Wants Equality for Turks in Greece

By Sezai Kalayci, Istanbul
Sunday, September 17, 2006
zaman.com

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has repeatedly criticized Greece on the issue of minority rights. He said, “We allow churches to be restored; however, they do not permit us to restore our mosques.”

Erdogan reproached Greek Prime Minister Kostas Karamanlis since he has not paid a visit to Turkey, even though Erdogan has visited Greece twice.

At his speech in the Fifth International Western Thracian Turks Assembly, organized Saturday at the Istanbul Crowne Plaza Hotel, Erdogan called on Athens to respect minority rights: “If Greece respects minority law and has some expectations from Turkey, they should also fulfill what is requested.”

Erdogan challenged Athens on its treatment of Turks living in Greece, stating that Turkey did not intervene with the appointment of the Greek Orthodox patriarch in Istanbul: “You have to recognize a mufti that Muslim Turks [living in Greece] selected.” He also criticized Greece for ignoring international accords on minority rights.

Regards,

[irlandahay]

Erdogan Wants Equality for Turks in Greece

By Sezai Kalayci, Istanbul
Sunday, September 17, 2006
zaman.com

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has repeatedly criticized Greece on the issue of minority rights. He said, “We allow churches to be restored; however, they do not permit us to restore our mosques.”

Erdogan reproached Greek Prime Minister Kostas Karamanlis since he has not paid a visit to Turkey, even though Erdogan has visited Greece twice.

At his speech in the Fifth International Western Thracian Turks Assembly, organized Saturday at the Istanbul Crowne Plaza Hotel, Erdogan called on Athens to respect minority rights: “If Greece respects minority law and has some expectations from Turkey, they should also fulfill what is requested.”

Erdogan challenged Athens on its treatment of Turks living in Greece, stating that Turkey did not intervene with the appointment of the Greek Orthodox patriarch in Istanbul: “You have to recognize a mufti that Muslim Turks [living in Greece] selected.” He also criticized Greece for ignoring international accords on minority rights.

Regards,

turks oppress some 7 different nations and try to whipe ALL of those out, and when someone returns the favor (in a much less barabric way i must add, whats restoring a mosque compared to slaughtering children)
they cry oppression

HAHAHAHA and i laugh how erdogan is encouraging human rights...lets talk human rights then erdogan

start by releasing the some 4000 pollitical prisonners for even mentionning armenian genocide, then stop the annihilation of the kurds, then give the lands back to armenia, stop destroying armenian churches and Assyrian churches.

and, in the meantime, the greeks cant open theyr own seminary

hahaha i love this, turks talking about human rights

[Mordoth]

Greeks shall show their tyrany and brutality on Muslims of Western Thrace .
After the desecration of the mosques and monuments-relics-shrines ; they'd attempt to assimilate Turks of Western Thrace by calling them Muslim minority (!) ( what a croop , Muslim Greek ! )

[irlandahay]

Greeks shall show their tyrany and brutality on Muslims of Western Thrace .
After the desecration of the mosques and monuments-relics-shrines ; they'd attempt to assimilate Turks of Western Thrace by calling them Muslim minority (!) ( what a croop , Muslim Greek ! )

HAHAHAHa

so turks invade a historical part of greece, whipe out its inhabitants, destroy the churches and monuements..youv guessed it, im talking about constantinople!

and now, the greeks are doing the same but not as rough and you cry

how turkish of you!

you still havnt read my post...since when is erdogan in a position to preech to another countrey about human rights?

[Mordoth]

Hmm , right .
There were 100 million Greek - Armo in anatolia , who were living in harmony , and there existed peace behind the Ionian-Dorian columns . Everywhere has involved paradise since 1 million horsemen arrived ( Turks ) They've cleared the inhabitants...
Is that what your mummy told to you ?
Armos have great exile and deportation in Byzantine era . It was just because of their Section and Greek - Izmit Council has excommunicated Armo Church . Do not you know that ?

ANATOLIAN DWELLERS have Welcomed Turks , if so none could go forward as an intruder .

Obviously , we 've confronted with noone except the little bunch of Byzantine infantry . Even the Kurds - Tartar Turks have assisted Turks in some engagements .

TURKs have conquered and liberated those lands from the tyrancy of Church and brutality of Ionian-Romans .

[irlandahay]

Hmm , right .
There were 100 million Greek - Armo in anatolia , who were living in harmony , and there existed peace behind the Ionian-Dorian columns . Everywhere has involved paradise since 1 million horsemen arrived ( Turks ) They've cleared the inhabitants...
Is that what your mummy told to you ?
Armos have great exile and deportation in Byzantine era . It was just because of their Section and Greek - Izmit Council has excommunicated Armo Church . Do not you know that ?

ANATOLIAN DWELLERS have Welcomed Turks , if so none could go forward as an intruder .

Obviously , we 've confronted with noone except the little bunch of Byzantine infantry . Even the Kurds - Tartar Turks have assisted Turks in some engagements .

TURKs have conquered and liberated those lands from the tyrancy of Church and brutality of Ionian-Romans .

no, thats what a REAL HISTORY BOOK TOLD ME! ###### WHO THE ###### DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?

YOU MONGOL IDIOT!

NO ONE LIKES TURKS' NO ONE IN THE WORLD LIKES TURKS!


GET THAT OUT OF YOUR HEAD' YOU ARE HATED! ######' DISGUSTING SCOURGE OF HUMANITY!

[Mordoth]

I think your quotes ,which generally involve swear and insults , should be evaluated . I advise to to calm down and write your threads down quietly . Relax
You said NONE likes us .
Is it " Terrorist and Ultra- Nationalist Armo-Qurds " who built the term EVERYONE up .
Your number is limited ,and your personal idea could not reflect the thought of a nation.
You're just 15 son , and you've many things to learn about history .

[irlandahay]

Your number is limited ,and your personal idea could not reflect the thought of a nation.
You're just 15 son , and you've many things to learn about history .

dude,find me one armenian greek, Assyrian kurd syriac caldean (the ones you massacred) or anyone else in the world for that matter who actually like turks...even todays mongols dont like you!

im fifteen true, but in my mind is accumulated historical knowledge...in yours is accumulated some 43 years of poison and kemalist lies!

sure i have time to learn history, but at least i can learn real history, with real history books and at least i am free to believe what i want (if your so free, free the some 4000 pollitical prisonners for even mentionning armenian genocide?!)

[Hosank]

what is this? turks and human rights??

to start i must say that turkey DOES NOT restore churches unless they are blackmaled with economic blocade. second, i must point out that mosques do not belong in europe, turkey does not belong in europe.

where is the inhumanity there? how many greeks, who have been living in anatolia long before the mongolic ottoman barbarian had arrived in the region have been slaughtered over the last 10o years? not to say the last 500?

so for the turkish government who cries outrage i say this, there is a little saying in the Christian Bible, that says: before you take out the piece of wheet in the other's eye, take out the tree trunk in yours...

I think your quotes ,which generally involve swear and insults , should be evaluated . I advise to to calm down and write your threads down quietly . Relax
You said NONE likes us .
Is it " Terrorist and Ultra- Nationalist Armo-Qurds " who built the term EVERYONE up .
Your number is limited ,and your personal idea could not reflect the thought of a nation.
You're just 15 son , and you've many things to learn about history .

by the way..."mordoth" learn to spell correctly or at least, speak real english, your arguments are meaningless orelse.

that guy is fifteen, but no offence, you don't seem to have passed 1st grade history. you can't attack a person's age, thats really sinking low, mind you, your grandfather probably raped an armenian or greek woman, opened a pregnant woman's stomach and cut off its unborn baby's head...so, i understand, its just your inferior culture

[irlandahay]

what is this? turks and human rights??

to start i must say that turkey DOES NOT restore churches unless they are blackmaled with economic blocade. second, i must point out that mosques do not belong in europe, turkey does not belong in europe.

where is the inhumanity there? how many greeks, who have been living in anatolia long before the mongolic ottoman barbarian had arrived in the region have been slaughtered over the last 10o years? not to say the last 500?

so for the turkish government who cries outrage i say this, there is a little saying in the Christian Bible, that says: before you take out the piece of wheet in the other's eye, take out the tree trunk in yours...
by the way..."mordoth" learn to spell correctly or at least, speak real english, your arguments are meaningless orelse.

that guy is fifteen, but no offence, you don't seem to have passed 1st grade history. you can't attack a person's age, thats really sinking low, mind you, your grandfather probably raped an armenian or greek woman, opened a pregnant woman's stomach and cut off its unborn baby's head...so, i understand, its just your inferior culture

hahahaha

welcome hosank

[Hosank]

Greeks shall show their tyrany and brutality on Muslims of Western Thrace .
After the desecration of the mosques and monuments-relics-shrines ; they'd attempt to assimilate Turks of Western Thrace by calling them Muslim minority (!) ( what a croop , Muslim Greek ! )

assimilate the turks? i think not, they just want them out...the turks have caused so much pain in greece,

interesting that we are all talking about the evil armenian invaders who 'occupy' 20% OF AZERBAIJAN, NOT TRUE BTW..MROE LIKE 12% and its no occupation, but then we all forget that turkey is occupying constantinople and eastern greece, in otherwords, the european part of turkey...so the only reason why turkey is even contemplating joining the EU is with the part of greece they stole

[irlandahay]

assimilate the turks? i think not, they just want them out...the turks have caused so much pain in greece,

interesting that we are all talking about the evil armenian invaders who 'occupy' 20% OF AZERBAIJAN, NOT TRUE BTW..MROE LIKE 12% and its no occupation, but then we all forget that turkey is occupying constantinople and eastern greece, in otherwords, the european part of turkey...so the only reason why turkey is even contemplating joining the EU is with the part of greece they stole

turks know but four things:

-invade
-kill inhabitants
-destroy
-blame it on others

[Mordoth]

dude,find me one armenian greek, Assyrian kurd syriac caldean (the ones you massacred) or anyone else in the world for that matter who actually like turks...even todays mongols dont like you!

im fifteen true, but in my mind is accumulated historical knowledge...in yours is accumulated some 43 years of poison and kemalist lies!

sure i have time to learn history, but at least i can learn real history, with real history books and at least i am free to believe what i want (if your so free, free the some 4000 pollitical prisonners for even mentionning armenian genocide?!)

I know that you try to learn sth. But i say , the thing you 've accumulated in your brain ; requires revision and comparison as well .
none can learn history from fedayi.com or qirtrascism.com or turan.com ...etc
I've faced many Armenian friends like you , who prefer not to speak when their thesis are sworn away .
( I do not think, they've stopped thinking about the existance of a so called genocide , 'cuz they are grown up with that , and they got that as a dogmatic truth )

Kemalism is not a lie , and Mustafa Kemal was the only PASHA you could thank ... Why ?'cuz just HE was the opposer of Relocation of Armenians and his decision is RECORDED to MEclis - i Mebusan . ( ottoman parliament ) His declarations , telegrammes are still in archives which strictly opposed Armenian migration .

4000 political prisoner ? When and where ? That is absolutely exaggeration

[prot9999]

Armenians know but below things:

- Cheating, lie genocide, lie dead peoples, closing national archive, lie peoples
- Lie more lie and more lies, subhumans
- Support terorist and terorist organizations : ASALA, pkk, el-kaide
- Anti - Islam, Anti- Jews, Anti-human, Anti-World
- Working with communists,
- Raped, bad human rights, homosexually etc very much in armenians
- No products, no development, just so called genocide, lots of lie, lots of mistaken
- Killing innocent peoples, killing our politics in armenian parlaments
- Making terorist actions in USA, Canada, France, Europa and other countries
- Supporting anti-Islam and killing Muslims
- Supporting Anti-American Anti-Isreal, supporting 911 with armenian passports
- Begging, impropriety, lying, lowness, cheating and more

Regards,

[irlandahay]

Armenians know but below things:

- Cheating, lie genocide, lie dead peoples, closing national archive, lie peoples
- Lie more lie and more lies, subhumans
- Support terorist and terorist organizations : ASALA, pkk, el-kaide
- Anti - Islam, Anti- Jews, Anti-human, Anti-World
- Working with communists,
- Raped, bad human rights, homosexually etc very much in armenians
- No products, no development, just so called genocide, lots of lie, lots of mistaken
- Killing innocent peoples, killing our politics in armenian parlaments
- Making terorist actions in USA, Canada, France, Europa and other countries
- Supporting anti-Islam and killing Muslims
- Supporting Anti-American Anti-Isreal, supporting 911 with armenian passports
- Begging, impropriety, lying, lowness, cheating and more

Regards,

hahah that was justa whole lot of nothing!

wow, he even took the time to repeat the same things about 4 times per line!

good one prot, now im convinced!

and mordoth, for those "armenian" friends. thats BS, because no real armenian would stand by for that crap of yours. they know. our evidence is far better then yours. all you keep repeating is the same crap.
i have a turkish friend, i showed him alot and tought him alot. at first, he had trouble believeing it. but then he came to me one morning and showed me an article in the newspaper in montreal about the armenian genocide. i then knew i had succeded. he know the truth!
and i thank god every day for every enlightenned turk who stands up to the crimes of his grandfather!

PS: fedayi.com...wow thanks man, i should go check it out lol...didnt know it existed

thank you mordoth!

[Hosank]

Armenians know but below things:

- Cheating, lie genocide, lie dead peoples, closing national archive, lie peoples
- Lie more lie and more lies, subhumans
- Support terorist and terorist organizations : ASALA, pkk, el-kaide
- Anti - Islam, Anti- Jews, Anti-human, Anti-World
- Working with communists,
- Raped, bad human rights, homosexually etc very much in armenians
- No products, no development, just so called genocide, lots of lie, lots of mistaken
- Killing innocent peoples, killing our politics in armenian parlaments
- Making terorist actions in USA, Canada, France, Europa and other countries
- Supporting anti-Islam and killing Muslims
- Supporting Anti-American Anti-Isreal, supporting 911 with armenian passports
- Begging, impropriety, lying, lowness, cheating and more

Regards,

actually, if there is anyone who works with communists its the turks and azeris, if there is anyone who closes their archives its the turks and azeris, if there is anyone who lies about genocide, ..you guessed it, the turks and azeris...oh, if you have ever been to armenia, you would know that they beat up homosexuals, but i have been to turkey and i saw homosexuality, and know it is common. and turks have commited state terrorism. and if anyone has a sense of morality, he would be anti islamic...armenians are pro american, btw, turks just want the american help so they can get military hardware to kill kurds and armenians.
regards to you my turkik sheep hurding friend.

[Mordoth]

and mordoth, for those "armenian" friends. thats BS, because no real armenian would stand by for that crap of yours. they know. our evidence is far better then yours. all you keep repeating is the same crap.
i have a turkish friend, i showed him alot and tought him alot. at first, he had trouble believeing it. but then he came to me one morning and showed me an article in the newspaper in montreal about the armenian genocide. i then knew i had succeded. he know the truth!
and i thank god every day for every enlightenned turk who stands up to the crimes of his grandfather!

PS: fedayi.com...wow thanks man, i should go check it out lol...didnt know it existed

thank you mordoth!

Of course no Armenian could with stand with truth of their own . Truths that show the victims of Armenian inhumanity , brutality and fraud . Who can accept that ?
If you feel guilty about sth. you might show the reaction of Turks , relocation . And try to show the deportation like " A genocide " by exaggerating the so-called casualties of Armenians .
( We did not say Armenians are not died in the journey . Of course ; they were and if we got Bus or Mass Transportation ; we 'd move them from a point to another . But we had not had one . )
You can show what your mummy has shown to you . That is all , but you'll always keep yourself away from the truth .
All my trouble , which is futile , is your descendants will be liars too . I recommend you to listen to other doc.s And never and ever comment on Turkish nation whom you do not know sth. about .

[Hosank]

what ever...

you talk like a little child, you and your entire 'nation'

you can't admit that you are murderers, so then you use pictures of armenian victims, and say they are turks killed by armenians, and you simply point your finger back at us...hooowwww original....

[Darkseid]

Only nine percent of Turks are actual Turks. The others are just turkified people that hold ethnic ancestory as Armenians, Thracians, Arabs, Greeks, Kurds, Zazas, Caucasians, or other Anatolian peoples.

If you see a blond haired, blue eyes person that identifies him or herself as a Turk. Begin to laugh, because real Turks are people from Central Asia and they look like Uyghurs, which were their closest relatives before they left Central Asia. Also, blond hair and blue eyes are both recessive traits, which means that are nearly impossible for a true Turk to have.

There are some "Turks" that are actually modern Hittites.

Why do these people seek to become something that they aren't?



"Greetings we are the Turks and we have come to assimilate you. That which makes you unique; your culture, language, and land shall become a part of us. Resistance is futile."

This Turkification movement is like the Nazi movement of turning all of Europe into Germans.

[Hosank]

no..

see, nazis didn't turn other europeans into germans, they cleared them to replace them with germans. the turks turned the aryan inhabitants of anatolia into turks.

i find it sad when blue eyed blond whites run around calling themselves turk
but it's the fascistic school system

[Darkseid]

no..

see, nazis didn't turn other europeans into germans, they cleared them to replace them with germans. the turks turned the aryan inhabitants of anatolia into turks.

i find it sad when blue eyed blond whites run around calling themselves turk
but it's the fascistic school system

You are right. But they did saw anyone with blond hair and blue eyes as a German, regardless of their previous nationality. That is why Nazis brought their movement over to America.

You have to remember that the whole Nazi regime was about replacing Europe's inhabitants with blue-eyed blond people, which they thought was the identity of the true german people.

[Darkseid]

no..

see, nazis didn't turn other europeans into germans, they cleared them to replace them with germans. the turks turned the aryan inhabitants of anatolia into turks.

i find it sad when blue eyed blond whites run around calling themselves turk
but it's the fascistic school system

Hey buddy can you help me out with a map I'm working on.

You see I'm trying to create a federation of states between Babylon (Arabic Iraq), the Levant, Anatolia, Caucasia, and Iran. I'm calling it Subar, since Subar is the ancient Sumerian word for the land North of Babylon.



I'm not quite done yet. I have to add in the state for Assyria and Turkmenli.

I would like it if you could appropriate land for Armenia. Now don't seek to take away land for Caucasia just yet. I'll see what I can do for that, but I think that small strip there should stay as the Caucasian state for the Laz people, since that is where they live.

You probably don't care much about them, but I think it is important that every ethnic group should have a land of their own.

As you can see I've already added in Zazaistan in Subar as well as Armenia with extended land from Azerbaijan.

My idea of government is to create federations. So you have less countries in total and also better unity amongst people within the same regional area.

However I support cultural conservation. In fact I am quite big in that department and therefore I seek to make Subar like Switzerland. A federal republic with each land holding its own autonomy and equal representation in the powerful legislative branch. It should be semi-presidential to divide power from the executive, thus keeping the Armenians free from totalitarian control. There will also be an independent elected Judicial Branch, you democratic people will like. And you will have an electorial branch (to keep the elections from being controlled and ripped in favor of the executive officials) and a constitutiona branch (for you libertarians that want to keep the government out of your daily lives and as a further prevention against totalitarianism).

So what you think? Besides it being hard to adjust to from the beginning. But I think after a decade you guys as a whole will start liking the system with all the benefits your people will receive that they didn't before.

[Hosank]

i don't get it.you want to make one federated state out of all of the middle east???

and armenia is north eastern turkey, southern georgia, western azerbaijan, and northern iran, as well as modern armenia itself