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arrow, in a democracy, you can also buy cigarettes, watch porn and higher hookers, does it's legality make it any more honourable?
after england, there is georgia, and even the privince of montreal that uses evil crusader symbols on it's flag..lool
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12/15/07 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(Hosank @ 12/14/07 05:25 AM) [snapback]118361[/snapback] arrow, in a democracy, you can also buy cigarettes, watch porn and higher hookers, does it's legality make it any more honourable?
after england, there is georgia, and even the privince of montreal that uses evil crusader symbols on it's flag..lool Well is Inter Milan a state ? Anyways, it seems fifa took this serious and consideres it a part of racism incident and started an investiagation. Even I am surprised with their decision.. I'll update when I hear any more.
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12/23/07 12:04 PM
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His "feelings" were hurt. An English school teacher in Sudan allows her students to name a Teddy bear “Muhammad” and she is jailed for “insulting the prophet.” Maclean’s magazine publishes a chapter from Mark Steyn’s best-selling book America Alone and a London lawyer files a “human rights” complaint in Canada against Mr. Steyn and the magazine for fostering “contempt and hatred” of Canadian Muslims. Everyone knows what happened when a Danish newspaper published some satirical cartoons of Muhammad. A very long list of such incidents could be compiled. Now a Turkish lawyer arrogates to himself the power to tell an Italian football team what they can wear. And Turkey wants to join the EU? Think about that. Muslims have mastered the Western system of litigation and forged a powerful weapon out of it. When will they manage to adopt the Western system of free speech and respect for individual freedom? When will they learn that the luxury being offensive and offended is part of what it means to be a grown up? While we wait for an answer, I suggest that every Western sports team adopt a uniform that features a large cross as a sign of solidarity. I hope someone will countersue Turkey for their national soccer jersey, which has the crescent and star because it hurts their "feelings" that the Ottoman Empire spent nearly five hundred years trying to conquer Europe (including part of Italy). For centuries, the crescent and star were most likely a hated symbol across Eastern and Central Europe. If this lawyer wants to return to the status quo ante, maybe Europe should insist on Turkey changing its flag before joining Europe. http://pajamasmedia.com/xpress/rogerkimbal...rial_intimi.phpMeanwhile... I think they should have added: FREE CONSTANTINOPLE" to the front of their shirt and "REMEMBER THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE" to the back.
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12/23/07 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(chase @ 12/23/07 06:04 PM) [snapback]118684[/snapback] His "feelings" were hurt. An English school teacher in Sudan allows her students to name a Teddy bear “Muhammad” and she is jailed for “insulting the prophet.” Maclean’s magazine publishes a chapter from Mark Steyn’s best-selling book America Alone and a London lawyer files a “human rights” complaint in Canada against Mr. Steyn and the magazine for fostering “contempt and hatred” of Canadian Muslims. Everyone knows what happened when a Danish newspaper published some satirical cartoons of Muhammad. A very long list of such incidents could be compiled. Now a Turkish lawyer arrogates to himself the power to tell an Italian football team what they can wear. And Turkey wants to join the EU? Think about that. Muslims have mastered the Western system of litigation and forged a powerful weapon out of it. When will they manage to adopt the Western system of free speech and respect for individual freedom? When will they learn that the luxury being offensive and offended is part of what it means to be a grown up? While we wait for an answer, I suggest that every Western sports team adopt a uniform that features a large cross as a sign of solidarity. I hope someone will countersue Turkey for their national soccer jersey, which has the crescent and star because it hurts their "feelings" that the Ottoman Empire spent nearly five hundred years trying to conquer Europe (including part of Italy). For centuries, the crescent and star were most likely a hated symbol across Eastern and Central Europe. If this lawyer wants to return to the status quo ante, maybe Europe should insist on Turkey changing its flag before joining Europe. http://pajamasmedia.com/xpress/rogerkimbal...rial_intimi.phpMeanwhile... I think they should have added: FREE CONSTANTINOPLE" to the front of their shirt and "REMEMBER THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE" to the back.My dear chase how I do love you  almost put a tear in my eye! Very well said! Happy holidays!
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12/24/07 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(chase @ 12/23/07 08:04 PM) [snapback]118684[/snapback] His "feelings" were hurt. An English school teacher in Sudan allows her students to name a Teddy bear “Muhammad” and she is jailed for “insulting the prophet.” Maclean’s magazine publishes a chapter from Mark Steyn’s best-selling book America Alone and a London lawyer files a “human rights” complaint in Canada against Mr. Steyn and the magazine for fostering “contempt and hatred” of Canadian Muslims. Everyone knows what happened when a Danish newspaper published some satirical cartoons of Muhammad. A very long list of such incidents could be compiled. Now a Turkish lawyer arrogates to himself the power to tell an Italian football team what they can wear. And Turkey wants to join the EU? Think about that.Muslims have mastered the Western system of litigation and forged a powerful weapon out of it. [b]When will they manage to adopt the Western system of free speech and respect for individual freedom? [/b]When will they learn that the luxury being offensive and offended is part of what it means to be a grown up? While we wait for an answer, I suggest that every Western sports team adopt a uniform that features a large cross as a sign of solidarity. I hope someone will countersue Turkey for their national soccer jersey, which has the crescent and star because it hurts their "feelings" that the Ottoman Empire spent nearly five hundred years trying to conquer Europe (including part of Italy). For centuries, the crescent and star were most likely a hated symbol across Eastern and Central Europe. If this lawyer wants to return to the status quo ante, maybe Europe should insist on Turkey changing its flag before joining Europe. http://pajamasmedia.com/xpress/rogerkimbal...rial_intimi.phpMeanwhile... I think they should have added: FREE CONSTANTINOPLE" to the front of their shirt and "REMEMBER THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE" to the back.Ok I just bold marked the parts I want to comment on ( or with value to comment about ).. Turkiye doesn't want to join EU, the support for EU is low to 30%. So get on with this argument already, the " if you don't do this we won't let you in the EU" song is really getting boooring... The western type of freedoms... MAybe you should tell this to London cops becouse they recently shot a boy on the head 5 rounds and killed him for carring a back pack. And as a civilised + educated person I am sure you know that freedoms do not give people to insult others values. I never saw a muslim or jew newspaper posting drawings about Jesus Christ having sex with underaged women nor anyother disgracing acts.. The Inter milan's case, since you are so interested. The football teams have 2 different uniforms, one for home games and other for away games. The red crossed uniform is for away games. And according to FIFA rules you have to use the hpme uniform home and away uniform away. Inter Milan is part of FIFA, they have to obey the rules. They did not. They valiated them, thus they will be punished. And the uniform apperantly was a way of provacation since prejudiced and hate blind people like you are following its lead. I don't know where you live but where I live, if you break a rule you get punished. Do you have anything to say in this regard, Ms. Hater ? Oh I almost forgot the flag. As you said it it is the flag of a nation, not the uniform of a football team, stay on the topic. Did anybody complained once about the flags with Cross on them ?? Is the topic about a flag of a nation ?? You claim that you are a good christian but all you do is spread hate around you while Jesus teaches you to love, to forgive , to have compassion... I wonder what Jesus thinks of you when he sees you throat deep in hate. Come to think of it, he sacrificed himself for the sins of us, didn't he ??
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01/04/08 10:10 PM
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QUOTE(arrow @ 12/24/07 03:44 PM) [snapback]118719[/snapback] Ok I just bold marked the parts I want to comment on ( or with value to comment about )..
Turkiye doesn't want to join EU, the support for EU is low to 30%. So get on with this argument already, the " if you don't do this we won't let you in the EU" song is really getting boooring...
The western type of freedoms... MAybe you should tell this to London cops becouse they recently shot a boy on the head 5 rounds and killed him for carring a back pack. And as a civilised + educated person I am sure you know that freedoms do not give people to insult others values. I never saw a muslim or jew newspaper posting drawings about Jesus Christ having sex with underaged women nor anyother disgracing acts..
The Inter milan's case, since you are so interested. The football teams have 2 different uniforms, one for home games and other for away games. The red crossed uniform is for away games. And according to FIFA rules you have to use the hpme uniform home and away uniform away. Inter Milan is part of FIFA, they have to obey the rules. They did not. They valiated them, thus they will be punished. And the uniform apperantly was a way of provacation since prejudiced and hate blind people like you are following its lead.
I don't know where you live but where I live, if you break a rule you get punished. Do you have anything to say in this regard, Ms. Hater ?
Oh I almost forgot the flag. As you said it it is the flag of a nation, not the uniform of a football team, stay on the topic. Did anybody complained once about the flags with Cross on them ?? Is the topic about a flag of a nation ?? You claim that you are a good christian but all you do is spread hate around you while Jesus teaches you to love, to forgive , to have compassion... I wonder what Jesus thinks of you when he sees you throat deep in hate. Come to think of it, he sacrificed himself for the sins of us, didn't he ?? I think they should have added: FREE CONSTANTINOPLE" to the front of their shirt and "REMEMBER THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE" to the back.So you consider this hate? Do I care? Nope! The truth shall set you free! Oh, and since when did I claim to be "a good christian (sic)"? You lie yet again! Italian Soccer Team Takes on Hezbollah Logo Italian soccer team renames itself in honor of the Jew-hating Islamofascist terrorist group Hezbollah.The new uniforms for the Italian soccer team includes the Hezbollah terrorist logo. The team renamed itself "Zasspollah" this year in recognition of the its strong fighting spirit and spirit of resistance. atlasshrugs.com You like? When you speak about "hate" please consider: # As for the Disbeliever’s, Whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not. Allah hath sealed their hearing and their hearts, and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be an awful doom.--2: 6-7 # In their hearts is a disease, and Allah increaseth their disease. A painful doom is theirs because they lie.--2: 17-18 # Guard yourselves against the Fire prepared for disbeliever’s, whose fuel is of men and stones.--2: 24 # They who disbelieve, and deny Our revelations, such are rightful Peoples of the Fire. They will abide therein.--2: 39 # Ye know of those of you who broke the Sabbath, how We said unto them: Be ye apes, despised and hated!--2: 65 # Allah hath cursed them for their unbelief. Little is that which they believe.--2:88 # The curse of Allah is on disbeliever’s.--2: 89 # Allah (Himself) is an enemy to the disbeliever’s.--2: 98 # We have revealed unto thee clear tokens, and only miscreants will disbelieve in them.--2: 99 # For disbeliever’s is a painful doom.--2: 104 # As for him who disbelieveth, I shall leave him in contentment for a while, then I shall compel him to the doom of Fire - a hapless journey's end!--2: 126 # Those who hide the proofs and the guidance which We revealed, after We had made it clear to mankind in the Scripture: such are accursed of Allah and accursed of those who have the power to curse.--2: 159 # Those who disbelieve, and die while they are disbeliever’s; on them is the curse of Allah and of angels and of men combined.--2: 161 # Those who hide aught of the Scripture which Allah hath revealed and purchase a small gain therewith, they eat into their bellies nothing else than fire. Theirs will be a painful doom.--2: 174 # Slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out ... If they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbeliever’s.--2:191 # Fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah--2:193 # One who attacketh you, attack him in like manner as he attacked you.--2:194 # Whoso becometh a renegade and dieth in his disbelief ... such are rightful owners of the Fire: they will abide therein.--2:217 # Those who disbelieve, their patrons are false deities. ... Such are rightful owners of the Fire. They will abide therein.--2:257 # Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah, theirs will be a heavy doom.--3:4 # Those who disbelieve ... will be fuel for Fire.--3:10 # Those who disbelieve ... shall be overcome and gathered unto Hell--3:12 # Those who disbelieve the revelations of Allah ... promise them a painful doom.--3:21 # Let not the believers take disbeliever’s for their friends in preference to believers--3:28 # Allah loveth not the disbeliever’s--3:32 # As for those who disbelieve I shall chastise them with a heavy chastisement in the world and the Hereafter; and they will have no helpers.--3:56 # Whoso seeketh as religion other than the Surrender (to Allah) it will not be accepted from him, and he will be a loser in the Hereafter.--3:85 # Those who disbelieve, and die in disbelief.... Theirs will be a painful doom and they will have no helpers.--3:91 # On the Day when (some) faces will be whitened and (some) faces will be blackened; and as for those whose faces have been blackened, it will be said unto them: Disbelieved ye after your (profession of) belief ? Then taste the punishment for that ye disbelieved.--3:106 # Those who disbelieve ... are rightful owners of the Fire. They will abide therein.--3:116 # Give us victory over the disbelieving folk.--3:147 # We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve--3:151 # Those who purchase disbelief at the price of faith harm Allah not at all, but theirs will be a painful doom.--3:177 # Those who disbelieve ... theirs will be a shameful doom.--3:178 # Those who disbelieve ... their habitation will be hell--3:196-7 # Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment.--4:18 # Allah hath cursed them for their disbelief, so they believe not, save a few.--4:46 # Those who believe do battle for the cause of Allah; and those who disbelieve do battle for the cause of idols. So fight the minions of the devil.--4:76 # Whatever of good befalleth thee (O man) it is from Allah, and whatever of ill befalleth thee it is from thyself.--4:79 # Choose not friends from them [unbelievers]. ... Take them and kill them wherever ye find them.--4:89 # Take them [unbelievers] and kill them wherever ye find them. Against such We have given you clear warrant.--4:91 # The disbeliever’s are an open enemy to you.--4:101 # Choose not disbeliever’s for (your) friends in place of believers. Would ye give Allah a clear warrant against you?--4:144 # Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment.--4:18 How about you weed your own garden first?
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QUOTE(chase @ 01/05/08 06:10 AM) [snapback]118933[/snapback] Oh, and since when did I claim to be "a good christian (sic)"? You lie yet again! OH you are a sweet little joke  Let me see... All your posts area about christianity, and how christians are opressed, murdered by muslims. Also you have the pope in your sig. And according to you war declared by christians, even though strickly banned in Bible by Jesus, is ok eg: the crusades.. I think you are the liar here milady and a lousy one. Or maybe you are a bad christian, or even better a pagan Anyways, the issue with the uniforms is in judgement. I don't see anyreason to comment further about it.
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01/15/08 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(arrow @ 01/15/08 03:30 PM) [snapback]119154[/snapback] Where is the irony ? I kinda find you 2 agreeing each other all the time cute  QUOTE Italy Soccer Officials "Astounded"by Muslim Lawsuit A Turkish lawyer is taking legal action against Inter Milan, the Italian football team, for wearing a strip with “Crusader-style” red crosses that he alleges is ”offensive to Muslim sensibilities”.Wait 'til they find out that Italians like sausage. heh The t-shirts are for sale here: http://store.inter.it/dettagli.asp?lingua=...amp;ric=&spOh, and if you didn't guess already Turkey lost the game. lol Ring a bell?  New Georgian Flag - I'll bet Muslims would never immigrate to Georgia as their flag "is offensive to Muslim sensibilities"! I mean not 1 but 5 Crosses - is that a statement or what - where's the garlic? heh
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01/15/08 05:24 PM
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I also find it ironic how Jews were astounded by the movie 'Passion of a Christ' where Jews were torturing Jesus. Apparantly, showing every fact done by Jewish hands is offensive to Jewish sensibilities. QUOTE Jewish groups protest 'anti-semitic' filmCan religion and the movies mix? Mel Gibson's new film The Passion of the Christ, about the last hours of Jesus, is the latest in a long line of movies to arouse strong opinions in religious communities. Jewish groups say The Passion portrays Jews negatively Some Jewish groups have accused Gibson of blaming Jews for Jesus' death and depicting them negatively in a film that is a "simplistic, historically incorrect portrayal". Gibson has denied anti-Semitism, saying his script was based on the New Testament - and he has been backed up by Christian groups. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3507429.stm
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01/26/08 08:17 PM
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QUOTE Posted 01/16/08 02:44 AM Chasey my little friend, I told you a few times by now the topic you posted is not about the flag of a state nor nation. It is about football match and a team's not following the rules of the game. I think it is a little bit confusing for you to get this simple fact. READ.... QUOTE Italy Soccer Officials "Astounded"by Muslim Lawsuit A Turkish lawyer is taking legal action against Inter Milan, the Italian football team, for wearing a strip with “Crusader-style” red crosses that he alleges is ”offensive to Muslim sensibilities”. Crusader cross puts soccer match on trial[...] "That cross only brings one thing to mind: the symbol of the Templar Knights," Mr. Kaska said. "It made me think immediately of the bloody days of the past."While I was watching the game, I felt profound grief in my soul," Mr. Kaska told the Spanish paper La Vanguardia, adding that the cross symbolized "western racist superiority over Islam." Mr. Kaska said he was not only seeking damages, but was also appealing to the soccer federation to annul the match, which Inter won 3-0.He insisted that Inter had "manifested in the most explicit manner the superiority of one religion over another."Inter Milan officials said they were astounded by the episode. They said that in the first match between the two teams in September at Istanbul -- which Fenerbahce won 1-0 -- Inter had refrained from wearing the shirt with the red cross, but had felt entitled to use it on its home ground. They also pointed out that a red cross on a white background is the symbol of the city of Milan. [...] http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/news/s...7e-ccf8093425a8He's like a little kid whining to get his way...  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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QUOTE Chase you need to learn the difference between a football team and a nation / state... that argument is irrelevant..infact..it is even more relevant for her argument than yours. QUOTE And countries following the rules ?? what rules are you talking about?? this question is not too shocking coming from a guy who's country must have no idea noting it's history of infractions.. there is such a thing called international law...law=rules.
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