Kids Health In Armenia, Wow the abortion rate Options

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Armenia has a high abortion rate -- 2.7 abortions per woman. Due to the lack of contraceptives and effective family planning information and services, abortion remains the primary means of fertility control in Armenia. The government report refers to these statistics, but states that, although higher than in most Western countries, the rate is the lowest among the other newly independent states. According to IWRAW sources, the government does not promote any programmes which would aim at improving the quality of family planning services.

NGOs also report on the poor condition of prenatal services. As a result, there has been a considerable increase in the incidence of anaemia in pregnant women in recent years, as well as deficiencies in breast-feeding, and other related health problems. As women's health deteriorates, the children are born weaker. Also, our sources report that, contrary to the government's official claims, malnutrition affects increasing numbers of children under the age of 5 years old.



This is serious. Instead of talking hate someone should do something about these numbers. 2,7 abortions per women is hell. Someone should start handing out free condoms

[Glock21]

You could apply these statistics to most former republics of the USSR, particularly in the Caucuses. Health care in general is abysmal there, and are not places to get sick. Sex education is another matter, and still has its taboos.

[HayArsen]

how is this related to conflicts in middle east?



retard

[HayArsen]

And maybe turks should start mating with humans instead of animals?


BERLIN: A man has been charged with breaking German animal protection laws after he was caught on camera having sex with sheep, police said.

The sheep's owner became suspicious last year and installed video surveillance equipment which filmed the 44-year-old in the act, police in the western region of Suedhessen said in a statement.

"He admitted sodomising the animals and had no explanation for his actions," spokeswoman Christine Klein said.

The man, who is a Turkish national and lives in the town of Gross Gerau, faces a jail sentence of up to three years or a fine, the statement said.


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A COOK spotted carrying out a sex act on a pony ran home without his clothes — then rang police to say he’d been mugged, a court heard yesterday.

Married Tuncay Ozcan, 24, was caught by a dog walker who returned to his car and switched on the lights — to see the pervert pleasuring himself with one hand while assaulting the pony with the other.

Startled Ozcan fled in panic, leaving behind a pile of clothing. It included a jacket containing his wallet and identification.

He arrived home wearing only green boxer shorts and told his shocked wife he had been attacked. To back up his story, he rang 999 and claimed three men had demanded money as he returned from a nightclub.

Prosecutor Richard Wilcox said: “In order to be able to get away more quickly he said he had taken off all his clothes and run home.”

Disbelieving officers linked him to his crime through DNA tests.

And yesterday a court heard the night of shame had humiliated him and wrecked his marriage.

Ozcan, who works in a fish and chip shop, struck on common ground on which horses are grazed in Southampton.

He hung his head in shame as the city’s Crown Court heard the three-year-old Welsh pony called Rose was good natured before that attack, but was now “nervous and skittish”.

Mr Wilcox then described how the dog walker was “extremely shocked” when he turned on his lights and saw Ozcan.

Mr Wilcox said: “Rose was tightly tethered to a tree with only two feet of slack. Standing at the back of the horse was Ozcan wearing only a pair of green boxers.

“Ozcan then took flight and ran off over the grass field leading to nearby tower blocks.

“The witness noticed a pile of clothes on the ground at the back of the horse. He flagged down a police car. In an abandoned jacket was a wallet with identification belonging to Ozcan. Simulatenously police took a call from Ozcan saying he had been attacked.”

David Jenkins, defending, said Ozcan had become “close” to horses during his Turkish upbringing and liked to ride them in the field. Mr Jenkins added: “These matters are highly embarrassing.

“As a result his marriage has broken down. He apologises and says it won’t happen again.”

Ozcan admitted outraging public decency and was given a 12-month community rehabilitation order.

Judge David L Griffiths told him: “I still do not know why you behaved in this way. Obviously drink played its part but there may well be, indeed probably is, some underlying problem.”


http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2002191799,00.html

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Well he should move to Denmark then, animal sex is still legal there

http://www.topix.net/forum/world/denmark/TNGRRQ1OP388VQ2ED

anyways, 2,7 abortions per woman is still everest high. Instead of spending your energy on hate try to convert it into something really good for your own people armeni.

[Hosank]

first of all, i doubt the number to be that high, since there arn't too many official censuses on the matter, and since armenia is a highly religious society, where abortion is a mortal sin..but it is always possible, and if so, we should work together to lower it

[irlandahay]

LOL! Hye Arsen!


hahahahaha

cheers mate!

[HayArsen]

Yes maybe 2.7 per woman is a high rate. The article says that its high compared to western nations. If we take for example USA many couples have children before getting married. However in Armenia its not considered "OK", therefore the abortion rate is high.

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HayArsen , Hosnak, which one of you guys is more accurate ? Religious armenia with low rates than the article or as hayarsen said it is ok to have such high numbers ?

[HayArsen]

HayArsen , Hosnak, which one of you guys is more accurate ? Religious armenia with low rates than the article or as hayarsen said it is ok to have such high numbers ?

I didn't say its OK. I am not for abortion. And I am not 100% sure about the number or the source you got it from, but what I have stated is most likely one of the reasons for that.

[Hosank]

but i find it odd that it would be higher then western nations, where it is often legal..
because, i assume that if it would be legal, people would have less trouble going through it, and more people would admit to doing it...
so, in all cases, i find it highly doubtful that there is more abortion in armenia then the west.

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I think it is possible in today's world. With all the moral values diminshing and the age of sex going as low as 12 years old it is possible. And in strict sociaties the yonly thing you get is illegal abortions and more deaths.

My source was UN a report from 1999.

[Hosank]

yes, but sex at the age of 12 is totally impossible in armenia..
trust me, even a 19 year old girl won't even let you hold her hand until you are 'neshanakvats' or engaged.
(obviously, there is an exeption to that rule, and im sure there are clandestine abortions, but, i doubt that with all that, the abortion rate would be that high)

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yes, but sex at the age of 12 is totally impossible in armenia..
trust me, even a 19 year old girl won't even let you hold her hand until you are 'neshanakvats' or engaged.
(obviously, there is an exeption to that rule, and im sure there are clandestine abortions, but, i doubt that with all that, the abortion rate would be that high)

The same in Turkiye altough big cities like Istanbul is different. But the sex age is still far from 12. But in USA ( our glorious leader ) there are mothers at the age of 12-13...

[intergalacticman]

wow, obviously an Armenian bashing topic.

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wow, obviously an Armenian bashing topic.

Hey, you bash me I bash you and this is actually fun:)

[intergalacticman]

so you admit then?

going out of your way just to insult people is not cool.


-Criticize ideas, not people.

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so you admit then?

going out of your way just to insult people is not cool.
-Criticize ideas, not people.

I think when I was called names and insulted with the worst possible words you just didn't read them. Besides the above post was a joke thus the smily....

[Hosank]

to be honest arrow, i do not remember many direct insults or attacks towards your person (besides darkseid, but god, who can blame him?)

The same in Turkiye altough big cities like Istanbul is different

that's why they go for little boys eh?

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to be honest arrow, i do not remember many direct insults or attacks towards your person (besides darkseid, but god, who can blame him?)

Lol, good one man, good one

that's why they go for little boys eh?

Those are the greeks you doorknob!!

[intergalacticman]

yeah, arrow hasnt really been insulted, but i cant say the same for prot or mordoth.

[irlandahay]

Lol, good one man, good one
Those are the greeks you doorknob!!

greeks? ya sure

turkey is the biggest producer, buyer and seller of child pornography...
and no it isnt the greeks...

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Although insult may be differrent to diffrernt people I do remember someone telling irlandahay to calm down for his personal attacks on me.

[intergalacticman]

yeah well not necessarily you, ok, its not worth posting anything on this thread anymore

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I just had to post this. Best abortion video ever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ERgTC-3wsY

[Hosank]

Those are the greeks you doorknob!!

actually, according to this, its the turks..http://sadlynormal.wordpress.com/2007/01/16/turkey-child-porn-in-turkey-fact-or-overstatement/
i have also seen stats that say that turkey is BY FAR the largest consumer in the world of child porn

Although insult may be differrent to diffrernt people

well, in that case, how can you judge an insult, and on the same page, how can anyone else? thus you have no ground to state that you have been personally attacked...

since..this itself

you doorknob

may be considered an insult to my person, or it may not....so...

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greeks? ya sure

turkey is the biggest producer, buyer and seller of child pornography...
and no it isnt the greeks...

You seem to know a lot about child porn, howcome you are so into it? Tells us about your past experiances, cmon man:)

[Armenak]

Hey, you bash me I bash you and this is actually fun:)

As long as Armenia isn't producing divas such as Bulent Ersoy and Zeki Muren, I'd say we're doing quite fine.

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As long as Armenia isn't producing divas such as Bulent Ersoy and Zeki Muren, I'd say we're doing quite fine.

How about Rober Hatemo ? I likle the guy, he is a good singer, gay and ermeni? I have a topic about him.

[Armenak]

How about Rober Hatemo ? I likle the guy, he is a good singer, gay and ermeni? I have a topic about him.

Is he in Armenia? Is he from Armenia? Does he sing in Armenian? Does he cater to an Armenian audience?

[Hosank]

turk, i don't get your point..

because he is armenian and gay, he is an insult to our people? there are gays around the world, but it is not their sexual orientation that makes them a hero or a traitor to our nation.
that was more like a homophobic statement then anything else..

and, there is a biggggggggg difference between a gay and a pedophile

[intergalacticman]

I just had to post this. Best abortion video ever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ERgTC-3wsY

ROFL ALI G!!! RESPECT!

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Is he in Armenia? Is he from Armenia? Does he sing in Armenian? Does he cater to an Armenian audience?

He sings in ermeni but no he is not in ermenistan and yes he sings to ermeni auidiance.

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turk, i don't get your point..

because he is armenian and gay, he is an insult to our people? there are gays around the world, but it is not their sexual orientation that makes them a hero or a traitor to our nation.
that was more like a homophobic statement then anything else..

and, there is a biggggggggg difference between a gay and a pedophile

Hosank you sometimes surprise me man. I said I like that guy and think he is a good singer, how is that supposed to be an insult??

And he is a Turkish ermeni, so the insult would be to myself......

The homophobic statement belongs to armen, talk to him about it

And there are gay pedophilies

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ROFL ALI G!!! RESPECT!

Haha at last someone with sense of humour

Ali G to a priest " why are you against abortion, have you ever been abortioned "

[Hosank]

yeh, sorry about that, i missunderstood what you wrote...

and, yeh, i like ali g.
but i don't like that quote, i thought it was disrispectful, and the preast obviously thought so himself when he left lol..

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yeh, sorry about that, i missunderstood what you wrote...

and, yeh, i like ali g.
but i don't like that quote, i thought it was disrispectful, and the preast obviously thought so himself when he left lol..

Cmoon he is Ale the friggin G man. he respects all

[irlandahay]

Although insult may be differrent to diffrernt people I do remember someone telling irlandahay to calm down for his personal attacks on me.

"greeks? ya sure
turkey is the biggest producer, buyer and seller of child pornography...
and no it isnt the greeks.."

huh? how was that a personnal attack?

its fact. you didnt know? go on google statistics and youl find it.

and if your crying about personnal attacks, want em to remind you what you said about the greeks? (which provoked me to answer)

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"greeks? ya sure
turkey is the biggest producer, buyer and seller of child pornography...
and no it isnt the greeks.."

huh? how was that a personnal attack?

its fact. you didnt know? go on google statistics and youl find it.

and if your crying about personnal attacks, want em to remind you what you said about the greeks? (which provoked me to answer)

Wellcome back kiddo, I kinda missed you

I said " it was the greeks you doorknob" and it was a joke.

I don't care about porn, but I wonder why you are so into it?? No girlfriend yet eh ?

[Armenak]

He sings in ermeni but no he is not in ermenistan and yes he sings to ermeni auidiance.

He would be singing in Ermenice, not Ermeni. Learn your own language.

I just searched for him on YouTube. All of the songs are in Turkish.

[irlandahay]

Wellcome back kiddo, I kinda missed you

I said " it was the greeks you doorknob" and it was a joke.

I don't care about porn, but I wonder why you are so into it?? No girlfriend yet eh ?

lol well all I did was think about you my dear arrow...

ah...didnt realise it was a joke.
but the child pornography in turkey wasnt a joke and really is a problem you should work on.

oh yes...I'm so into child pornography. if your gonna try and make fun of me at least do it properly...
and as far as I know your probably an ugly hairy gorilla looking turk who lives in his mothers basement, hasnt smelled a woman in 10 years and works at a Mcdonalds. or is it McAhmed in turkey

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lol well all I did was think about you my dear arrow...

I am a heterosexual

ah...didnt realise it was a joke.
but the child pornography in turkey wasnt a joke and really is a problem you should work on.

We have the officers for that, not my problem at all but thnx for the concern. And you should work about the abortion numbers, women are not production machines you know.

and as far as I know your probably an ugly hairy gorilla looking turk who lives in his mothers basement, hasnt smelled a woman in 10 years and works at a Mcdonalds. or is it McAhmed in turkey

Ahh, dead on target I live in BC and have my own biz remember. When you need a job contact me I ll hire you to keep the annoying customers busy

[irlandahay]

I am a heterosexual
We have the officers for that, not my problem at all but thnx for the concern. And you should work about the abortion numbers, women are not production machines you know.
Ahh, dead on target I live in BC and have my own biz remember. When you need a job contact me I ll hire you to keep the annoying customers busy

it was a joke arrow, dont flatter yourself...

I dont impregnate women yet and I'm in canada. but obviously yes something should be done about it.

I'm good at manipulating annoying people...but no thanks. jsut the idea of answering to a turk is repulsive to me.

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it was a joke arrow, dont flatter yourself...

I dont impregnate women yet and I'm in canada. but obviously yes something should be done about it.

I'm good at manipulating annoying people...but no thanks. jsut the idea of answering to a turk is repulsive to me.

Irlandahay, money knows no race, religion, nation.. And the more you own the more greedy you'll get. And people do nasty things to get even more of it.

Btw, I already have 2 ermeni employees. Turkish ermenis though.

[irlandahay]

Irlandahay, money knows no race, religion, nation.. And the more you own the more greedy you'll get. And people do nasty things to get even more of it.

Btw, I already have 2 ermeni employees. Turkish ermenis though.

yep, just like the turks to get all the wealth the Armenians had. nasty pricks tried to get the insurance money for the family's they slaughtered.

Bolsahyes have no pride. I on the other hand have some. could be my irish side or could be the fact that I have the utmost disgust for turks and would never work for one.

but thanks for the offer

[Hosank]

women are not production machines you know.

they should be if they want to regenerate the armenian people in order to obtain our evil nazi liebenstrom plans lol...

i will do my part in the child baring!

[veritas]

Well he should move to Denmark then, animal sex is still legal there

http://www.topix.net/forum/world/denmark/TNGRRQ1OP388VQ2ED

anyways, 2,7 abortions per woman is still everest high. Instead of spending your energy on hate try to convert it into something really good for your own people armeni.

And i suppose a turk posting threads about ridiculously high abortion rates in another nation for " the love" is what is going on here.

the transparent ruse you are dismally attempting to create here is as transparent as glass to all but other dumbass turks.

[veritas]

Armenia has a high abortion rate -- 2.7 abortions per woman. Due to the lack of contraceptives and effective family planning information and services, abortion remains the primary means of fertility control in Armenia. The government report refers to these statistics, but states that, although higher than in most Western countries, the rate is the lowest among the other newly independent states. According to IWRAW sources, the government does not promote any programmes which would aim at improving the quality of family planning services.

NGOs also report on the poor condition of prenatal services. As a result, there has been a considerable increase in the incidence of anaemia in pregnant women in recent years, as well as deficiencies in breast-feeding, and other related health problems. As women's health deteriorates, the children are born weaker. Also, our sources report that, contrary to the government's official claims, malnutrition affects increasing numbers of children under the age of 5 years old.
This is serious. Instead of talking hate someone should do something about these numbers. 2,7 abortions per women is hell. Someone should start handing out free condoms

And also where EXACTLY did this crap come from?

If it was from a turkish/azeri backed site the you will have lost all credibility here.

2.7 huh? did the number come out of a hat?

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And also where EXACTLY did this crap come from?

If it was from a turkish/azeri backed site the you will have lost all credibility here.

2.7 huh? did the number come out of a hat?

It is from UN, please read all the posts before you barge in. And you are most wellcome to add anything usefull to the subject.

[veritas]

It is from UN, please read all the posts before you barge in. And you are most wellcome to add anything usefull to the subject.

i did read all the posts and you still have not provided me with a link to this fabled UN report.

please post one to retain credibility, or you are jut another of the dozens of turks that post lies and falsified documents about armenia in an effort to discredit them as a nation.