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Kurd-BOSS
post 06/04/07 03:38 PM
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http://www.ibctoday.com/News/ViewNewsItem....ewsItemId=24364



I hope this topic will not turn into a flame debate, please give your opinion.
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post 06/04/07 06:18 PM
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Wow that's great
Biji Kurd-Boss for finding that and showing us here

A couple of questions, The old man and that woman, when they were talking was that in kurdish? Are those christian kurds? How many are there in Kurdistan?
And about the automous land for christians....
How do most Kurds in dispora and in Kurdistan feel about that (support/against)? How do Talabani, and Barzani, and kurdish government as a whole feel about that?

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post 06/04/07 06:45 PM
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This is absolute BS, they are fusing Kurdish Christians and Assyrians into one name. They never even mentioned the name "Assyrian" once in that whole crappy video. No wonder noone takes Fox news seriously what a joke.
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post 06/05/07 03:11 AM
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Danno:

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A couple of questions, The old man and that woman, when they were talking was that in kurdish? Are those christian kurds? How many are there in Kurdistan?

There are certainly christian Kurds, but their number is not great.
Most of the christians are Assyrian

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And about the automous land for christians....
How do most Kurds in dispora and in Kurdistan feel about that (support/against)? How do Talabani, and Barzani, and kurdish government as a whole feel about that?

I think when realistic proposals are given, the majority of Kurds will support it.
I am pro-Assyrian self-rule, that is if most Assyrians deicde to do that. Right now I think the Assyrians feel more prosperity in Iraqi Kurdistan, than in an autonomous Assyria.



Damail, they were talking about Christians in general, not only Assyrian and Kurdish christians.
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post 06/05/07 09:09 AM
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Firstly, Thank you for this film/report.
-All I want to say on this report/topic is, that this is only a Fox news report on the suffering of Assyrian Christians (also known as Chaldeans and Syriacs) under Saddam. The report do make lots of mistakes for example she (Anita) says that the Christians want their own Christian autonomous region WITHIN KURDISTAND that false, because Mosul (Nineveh: the ancient capital of the Assyrians empire) is not in this Kurdi..t.n. And we don’t need to be a majority to live in Peace on our Land too!! And the Kurds don’t INVITE as the reporter said in the beginning, no one came to my house and said “this is an invitation from Kurds for you to live in North Iraq”?! that never happenes. so these are three BS

Don’t get me wrong, we are happy with this, but you can’t buy the National Identity of a nation with Money.


You ask yourself, why she never mentions the National Identity of the Assyrians? Why? I will tell why, because this is what the Kurds want, they want to turn the Christian Assyrians into Kurdish-Christian. It will never happen.

You need to understand that the kurds are not building Churchs or Villages for Christian Assyrians we already had/have churches and villages, but this is a documentation on how Saddam Regime blow them-up. And the kurds never rebuild them since the 80’s why building them now? Only when Mr. Akhajan an Assyrian Christian minister in the Kurdish regional government forced the issue with money collected from the west and northern oil fields. He is doing good job, but we don’t know who he is and from were he cames, and we don’t know who is behind him pulling the strings?!! I will keep this to the future to uncover!!!
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maybe because not all the christians are Assyrians, and he was referring to a religious group and not an ethnic group.
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QUOTE(intergalacticman @ 06/05/07 08:17 PM) [snapback]110721[/snapback]
maybe because not all the christians are Assyrians, and he was referring to a religious group and not an ethnic group.



Lol so why he says HISTORICALLY this whole region was ours. Do you know anything about the homeland of the Assyrians?

You think that lots of christian kurds lived their? haha
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Seems like some Assyrians have some ambitions on Kurdish christians now as well.....


What we don't see is Assyrians criticising Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Syria for not letting someone like Sarkis into their government.
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All of you are just ungreatful, so you are telling me you do not agree with this video b/c it does not mention Assyrians????
COMMON! it talks about all chritians, it shows sarkis aghajan (Assyrian) and Mar Dinkha (Assyrian patriarch)
+ if there is a christian atonomous land you would not support is cause it does not mention Assyrian too??

Assyrians need to start using realpolitik to progress in life, how else do you think kurds have been doing so well latly... they are using realpolitik
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QUOTE(Danno @ 06/05/07 06:10 PM) [snapback]110739[/snapback]
All of you are just ungreatful, so you are telling me you do not agree with this video b/c it does not mention Assyrians????
COMMON! it talks about all chritians, it shows sarkis aghajan (Assyrian) and Mar Dinkha (Assyrian patriarch)
+ if there is a christian atonomous land you would not support is cause it does not mention Assyrian too??

Assyrians need to start using realpolitik to progress in life, how else do you think kurds have been doing so well latly... they are using realpolitik


Danno, wake up! Our nationality is at stake here. If people keep on refering to us as Chrisitans, then they will never know who the Assyrian people are. 30 years from now noone is going to know Assyrian from Kurdish Christian or Arab Christian. We are AssyrianS before Christians just like Kurds are KURD before any religion.
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post 06/06/07 10:04 AM
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QUOTE(Sanharib @ 06/05/07 10:24 PM) [snapback]110723[/snapback]
Lol so why he says HISTORICALLY this whole region was ours. Do you know anything about the homeland of the Assyrians?

You think that lots of christian kurds lived their? haha


When you ever talk about Iraqi Christians you are talking about Assyrians (including all rites) FULL STOP ok, there is no other Christians in Iraq as Indigenous of Iraq. So, STOP referring to Kurdish Christians Because that’s a METH a Kurdish propaganda Meth only in your mind.
So, when MR. Akhajan said as has Sanharib beautifully illustrated when Skhajan said OURS, he is what? Assyrian so when he says ours: meaning our Assyrian Region!

Don’t forget that this is a statement read by fox reporter, maybe he did say Assyrian but they remove it? anyway Akhajan is a pro-Kurd which is a worrying thing to me.
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QUOTE(King Ashurbanipal @ 06/06/07 06:04 PM) [snapback]110879[/snapback]
When you ever talk about Iraqi Christians you are talking about Assyrians (including all rites) FULL STOP ok, there is no other Christians in Iraq as Indigenous of Iraq. So, STOP referring to Kurdish Christians Because that’s a METH a Kurdish propaganda Meth only in your mind.
So, when MR. Akhajan said as has Sanharib beautifully illustrated when Skhajan said OURS, he is what? Assyrian so when he says ours: meaning our Assyrian Region!

Don’t forget that this is a statement read by fox reporter, maybe he did say Assyrian but they remove it? anyway Akhajan is a pro-Kurd which is a worrying thing to me.



You are right I didn't thougt fox news maybe put this in this interview....
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Yeah lol, according to you Fox news, cnn news, reuters, AP are all fake news agencies.
All of them make propaganda, right?

But yet you all claim www.aina.org is very very VERY reliable.
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post 06/08/07 08:22 AM
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QUOTE(Kurd-BOSS @ 06/08/07 10:56 AM) [snapback]111087[/snapback]
Yeah lol, according to you Fox news, cnn news, reuters, AP are all fake news agencies.
All of them make propaganda, right?

But yet you all claim www.aina.org is very very VERY reliable.


Kurd,
You have to get the balance right, you should be open minded and always read between the lines, not because CNN said some thing that automatically makes it right? No, that’s false thinking, you don’t understand politics my friend.

For example I saw the report, and I told you exactly what and where they made mistakes, you too can’t just throw cheap words like aina.com or other Assyrian News agencies are Bad, propaganda, wrong…etc
You should show us exactly what paragraph or thing they said which was in your opinion Wrong?

And Yes, there is Assyrian representing the Assyrians of Iran in the Iranian parliament, there are in the Iraq parliament too.
But you ask yourself WHY is the Kurdish Authorities NOT dealing with the Assyrian parliamentarians who WE as Assyrians votes for? Why they always ignore them and get their own Pro-Kurdish Assyrians in their Kurdish parliament? Yes, because these are like dogs to there masters whatever their master tell them they say How…How…
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QUOTE(Sanharib @ 06/06/07 09:37 PM) [snapback]110897[/snapback]
You are right I didn't thougt fox news maybe put this in this interview....


Sanharib, you are ok, the message I left you was going to Kurd-boss for this/his message:
QUOTE(Kurd-BOSS @ 06/05/07 10:46 PM) [snapback]110726[/snapback]
Seems like some Assyrians have some ambitions on Kurdish christians now as well.....
What we don't see is Assyrians criticising Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Syria for not letting someone like Sarkis into their government.

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Kurdish government builds homes for Assyrians


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjPMHrzTbk8
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