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02/28/08 04:29 AM
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QUOTE Pop star could be prosecuted after questioning Turks' militarismBy Nicholas Birch in Istanbul WITH the death toll in Turkey's operations against Kurdish nationalists in Iraq rising daily, one of the country's most famous pop stars was in serious trouble this week after she questioned deeply-engrained Turkish militarism on prime-time television. "I am not a mother, nor ever will be, but I would not bury my child for somebody else's war," said Bulent Ersoy, during a broadcast of Star TV's hugely popular Popstar Alaturka. Visibly shocked, another presenter intervened to try to shut her up. "May God give me a son so that I can send him off to our glorious army," Ebru Gundes said, adding a nationalistic phrase repeated without fail at every military funeral: "Martyrs never die, the fatherland cannot be divided." But Ersoy, a transsexual who was banned from television by a military junta in the 1980s, was not put off. "Always the same clichéd phrases," she riposted. "Children go, bitter tears, funerals … And afterwards, these clichéd phrases." An Istanbul prosecutor promptly opened an investigation into her for alienating the people from military service, a crime punishable by up to three years in jail. The broadcasting watchdog announced that it was considering banning Ersoy from the screen. These were predictable reactions in this profoundly nationalist country where criticising the conscript-heavy army is a risky business. From an early age, Turkish schoolchildren are taughtthat "all Turks are born soldiers". School textbooks warn children that a man who has not done his military service "cannot be useful to himself, his family, or his homeland". Not recognised by the law, Turkish conscientious objectors face a potentially infinite round of trial and imprisonment.Yet, while Ersoy's comments earned her Turkish media opprobrium, the packed audience in Star TV's studio applauded her warmly. It is just the latest sign that, after 24 years of war against the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) and 40,000 deaths, people are beginning to question the state's traditional tendency to see the Kurdish issue merely as a matter of security. Turkey declined yesterday to give Baghdad a timetable for the withdrawal of troops fighting Kurdish guerrillas in northern Iraq, resisting pressure from the United States and other allies to end the latest offensive quickly. http://news.scotsman.com/world/Pop-star-co...uted.3823913.jpThe full article contains 378 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.Last Updated: 27 February 2008 10:34 PM
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02/28/08 03:16 PM
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QUOTE Turkish TV warned over transsexual's army remarks 28 Feb 2008 18:05:43 GMT Source: Reuters ANKARA, Feb 28 (Reuters) - A Turkish media watchdog rebuked an entertainment show on Thursday for allowing a transsexual singer to question whether an army campaign against Kurdish rebels in northern Iraq was worth the lives of soldiers. Bulent Ersoy, one of Turkey's most popular singers who had a sex change in the 1980s, caused a stir this week by saying that were she able to give birth to a son she would not allow him to go to fight in neighbouring Iraq. "A war is waged with conspiracies designed in office rooms. Some people write it and everyone is forced to play along. If I were fertile and had a child, I could not accept burying him for others' plans," Ersoy said during a show on Star TV. Criticising the armed forces or appearing to questioning the sacrifice of soldiers, considered "martyred", is a taboo in Turkey and insulting the military is a crime. Turkish prosecutors have already started an investigation against Ersoy. Turkey's military has said 24 soldiers have so far died in a cross-border offensive that began on Feb. 21. The military said on Thursday that 237 PKK Kurdish guerrillas had died so far. Turkey's state Radio and Television High Board (RTUK) said the Popstar Alaturka show failed to comply with national security and the principle of general morality when it allowed Ersoy to mock the military and its operation in northern Iraq. Many people called the board to complain about Ersoy's comments, the RTUK said. It was not immediately clear whether the channel would be fined. Transsexuals and men in drag are popular on Turkish TV entertainment programmes. (Reporting by Selcuk Gokoluk, editing by Mark Trevelyan) http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L28160415.htm
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04/16/08 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(arrow @ 02/28/08 05:15 PM) [snapback]119976[/snapback] No wonder ocalan is a boy loving faggot  I think what dissappoints you is that the truth is on the opposite....to your father. Truth About Jewish Gay Dictator Ataturk ExposedJewish Gay Dictator Mustafa Kemal was a Freemason and a British agent. In Turkey, once the children start school, they are forced to admire Jewish Mustafa Kemal in order to justify his anti-Islamic actions. Once the students graduate from the high school or university, they admire and respect Jewish Mustafa Kemal to such an extent that they do not even question his reforms (in fact, no one can ever dare to so, due to the state laws). This is how the oppressive kemalist/Jewish secular regime in Turkey is brainwashing the new generations. The main goal of this brainwashing campaign is to make the Muslim Turks turn away from Islam and forget their glorious History. During Jewish Dictator Mustafa Kemal's time, Islam in Turkey was banished to the people, many of the Islamic traditions were forbidden (such as learning Quran and going to Hajj), and whoever objected dictator Mustafa Kemal's policies, had been punished severely or executed. The History books that are taught at schools in Turkey in order to brainwash the new generations, were fabricated by Jewish Mustafa Kemal and the newly established regime by Jews and Freemasons. These are the descendants of the Jews that sought refuge in Ottoman lands and given shelter by Sultan in 16th century after they were expelled from Spain. The oppressive secular republic that controls the Near East was founded by these Jews and Freemasons; and Turkey is still run by these Jews to day with extreme brutality. After Jewish dictator Mustafa Kemal and his followers took over the power in Turkey in 1923, they abolished Caliphate, outlawed islamic alphabet, turned Mosques into museums, banned women from wearing Hijab and islamic dress code, executed many Muslims under disguise of westernization and advancement. They oppressed the Muslims who clung to true Islamic teachings while they gave non-muslim minorities their full freedom; they encouraged (many times even forced) Muslims to imitate western people. They brainwashed the new generations by always lying on their face. Is it not true that after Jewish dictator and British agent Mustafa Kemal, Turks are urged, by the oppressive secular regime, to forget their glorious islamic past, their original language; abandon the Islamic traditions and adopt western culture instead..? And is it not true that Jewish dictator Mustafa Kemal's all reforms were only to root out Islam from Turkey? These reforms, in fact, were not carried out by Jewish dictator and British agent Mustafa Kemal himself alone; he was just a puppet in the hands of other Zionist Jews and the western powers. That makes perfectly sense if one thinks how the western powers and Jews praise him so much; becaue they want people in Turkey believe that "he was a great man", thus Turks will continue to be put in sleep, and Islam in the Near East will not rise again! Jewish dictator Gay Mustafa Kemal did never have any war strategy. He and other secret Jews co-operated secretly with the western imperialists in order to take over the power in Turkey. Jewish dictator Mustafa Kemal never led Turkish army in any war, he was drunkard. He was making politics in different parts of Anatolia in order to convince Turkish people to give support to him and his new government that they established in Angora with many tricks. Once he managed to earn the trust of Turkish Muslims, the western powers withdrew their occupation forces and Jewish dictator Mustafa Kemal became the new ruler of Turkey. O People! Is it not true that the new western dress code, which was brought by the enemies of Islam after the establishment of the oppressive secular republic by Jews, is against the Human Rights - how can one be forced to wear a specific style? The so-called secular democratic republic is only written on paper and their constitution. There has never been true democracy in Turkey since 1923. In particular, Jewish Mustafa Kemal's time was an extreme dictatorship. Everything is controlled by the Army which is run by Jews. The current Military chief general Yaşar Büyükanıt is also an ardent Zionist Jew who has relatives in Israel. Jews and Freemasons, who co-operated with west and founded secular regime over Muslim blood, tried to scrape off the roots of Islam from Muslim Turkey; they made Muslim Turks turn their back to Muslim world, beg West and forget their Islamic past. After the establishment of the new secular regime by these Jews, Turkey, while even signing the Moudros armistice after WWI being one of the major and respected country in the world, today became a reserve state of Zionist Israel and a puppet of EU and USA. http://m-kemal.blogspot.com/2000/01/mkemalmission.html
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QUOTE(Kurd-BOSS @ 04/16/08 03:40 PM) [snapback]121247[/snapback] I think what dissappoints you is that the truth is on the opposite....to your father. Truth About Jewish Gay Dictator Ataturk ExposedJewish Gay Dictator Mustafa Kemal was a Freemason and a British agent. In Turkey, once the children start school, they are forced to admire Jewish Mustafa Kemal in order to justify his anti-Islamic actions. Once the students graduate from the high school or university, they admire and respect Jewish Mustafa Kemal to such an extent that they do not even question his reforms (in fact, no one can ever dare to so, due to the state laws). This is how the oppressive kemalist/Jewish secular regime in Turkey is brainwashing the new generations. The main goal of this brainwashing campaign is to make the Muslim Turks turn away from Islam and forget their glorious History. During Jewish Dictator Mustafa Kemal's time, Islam in Turkey was banished to the people, many of the Islamic traditions were forbidden (such as learning Quran and going to Hajj), and whoever objected dictator Mustafa Kemal's policies, had been punished severely or executed. The History books that are taught at schools in Turkey in order to brainwash the new generations, were fabricated by Jewish Mustafa Kemal and the newly established regime by Jews and Freemasons. These are the descendants of the Jews that sought refuge in Ottoman lands and given shelter by Sultan in 16th century after they were expelled from Spain. The oppressive secular republic that controls the Near East was founded by these Jews and Freemasons; and Turkey is still run by these Jews to day with extreme brutality. After Jewish dictator Mustafa Kemal and his followers took over the power in Turkey in 1923, they abolished Caliphate, outlawed islamic alphabet, turned Mosques into museums, banned women from wearing Hijab and islamic dress code, executed many Muslims under disguise of westernization and advancement. They oppressed the Muslims who clung to true Islamic teachings while they gave non-muslim minorities their full freedom; they encouraged (many times even forced) Muslims to imitate western people. They brainwashed the new generations by always lying on their face. Is it not true that after Jewish dictator and British agent Mustafa Kemal, Turks are urged, by the oppressive secular regime, to forget their glorious islamic past, their original language; abandon the Islamic traditions and adopt western culture instead..? And is it not true that Jewish dictator Mustafa Kemal's all reforms were only to root out Islam from Turkey? These reforms, in fact, were not carried out by Jewish dictator and British agent Mustafa Kemal himself alone; he was just a puppet in the hands of other Zionist Jews and the western powers. That makes perfectly sense if one thinks how the western powers and Jews praise him so much; becaue they want people in Turkey believe that "he was a great man", thus Turks will continue to be put in sleep, and Islam in the Near East will not rise again! Jewish dictator Gay Mustafa Kemal did never have any war strategy. He and other secret Jews co-operated secretly with the western imperialists in order to take over the power in Turkey. Jewish dictator Mustafa Kemal never led Turkish army in any war, he was drunkard. He was making politics in different parts of Anatolia in order to convince Turkish people to give support to him and his new government that they established in Angora with many tricks. Once he managed to earn the trust of Turkish Muslims, the western powers withdrew their occupation forces and Jewish dictator Mustafa Kemal became the new ruler of Turkey. O People! Is it not true that the new western dress code, which was brought by the enemies of Islam after the establishment of the oppressive secular republic by Jews, is against the Human Rights - how can one be forced to wear a specific style? The so-called secular democratic republic is only written on paper and their constitution. There has never been true democracy in Turkey since 1923. In particular, Jewish Mustafa Kemal's time was an extreme dictatorship. Everything is controlled by the Army which is run by Jews. The current Military chief general Yaşar Büyükanıt is also an ardent Zionist Jew who has relatives in Israel. Jews and Freemasons, who co-operated with west and founded secular regime over Muslim blood, tried to scrape off the roots of Islam from Muslim Turkey; they made Muslim Turks turn their back to Muslim world, beg West and forget their Islamic past. After the establishment of the new secular regime by these Jews, Turkey, while even signing the Moudros armistice after WWI being one of the major and respected country in the world, today became a reserve state of Zionist Israel and a puppet of EU and USA. http://m-kemal.blogspot.com/2000/01/mkemalmission.htmllol you just like a little kid..this just a stupid article and this only show how much you low degree man...mybe after 5 years we can talk after who your brain will grown lol
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QUOTE(Kurd-BOSS @ 04/16/08 09:40 PM) [snapback]121247[/snapback] I think what dissappoints you is that the truth is on the opposite....to your father. Truth About Jewish Gay Dictator Ataturk ExposedJewish Gay Dictator Mustafa Kemal was a Freemason and a British agent. In Turkey, once the children start school, they are forced to admire Jewish Mustafa Kemal in order to justify his anti-Islamic actions. Once the students graduate from the high school or university, they admire and respect Jewish Mustafa Kemal to such an extent that they do not even question his reforms (in fact, no one can ever dare to so, due to the state laws). This is how the oppressive kemalist/Jewish secular regime in Turkey is brainwashing the new generations. The main goal of this brainwashing campaign is to make the Muslim Turks turn away from Islam and forget their glorious History. During Jewish Dictator Mustafa Kemal's time, Islam in Turkey was banished to the people, many of the Islamic traditions were forbidden (such as learning Quran and going to Hajj), and whoever objected dictator Mustafa Kemal's policies, had been punished severely or executed. The History books that are taught at schools in Turkey in order to brainwash the new generations, were fabricated by Jewish Mustafa Kemal and the newly established regime by Jews and Freemasons. These are the descendants of the Jews that sought refuge in Ottoman lands and given shelter by Sultan in 16th century after they were expelled from Spain. The oppressive secular republic that controls the Near East was founded by these Jews and Freemasons; and Turkey is still run by these Jews to day with extreme brutality. After Jewish dictator Mustafa Kemal and his followers took over the power in Turkey in 1923, they abolished Caliphate, outlawed islamic alphabet, turned Mosques into museums, banned women from wearing Hijab and islamic dress code, executed many Muslims under disguise of westernization and advancement. They oppressed the Muslims who clung to true Islamic teachings while they gave non-muslim minorities their full freedom; they encouraged (many times even forced) Muslims to imitate western people. They brainwashed the new generations by always lying on their face. Is it not true that after Jewish dictator and British agent Mustafa Kemal, Turks are urged, by the oppressive secular regime, to forget their glorious islamic past, their original language; abandon the Islamic traditions and adopt western culture instead..? And is it not true that Jewish dictator Mustafa Kemal's all reforms were only to root out Islam from Turkey? These reforms, in fact, were not carried out by Jewish dictator and British agent Mustafa Kemal himself alone; he was just a puppet in the hands of other Zionist Jews and the western powers. That makes perfectly sense if one thinks how the western powers and Jews praise him so much; becaue they want people in Turkey believe that "he was a great man", thus Turks will continue to be put in sleep, and Islam in the Near East will not rise again! Jewish dictator Gay Mustafa Kemal did never have any war strategy. He and other secret Jews co-operated secretly with the western imperialists in order to take over the power in Turkey. Jewish dictator Mustafa Kemal never led Turkish army in any war, he was drunkard. He was making politics in different parts of Anatolia in order to convince Turkish people to give support to him and his new government that they established in Angora with many tricks. Once he managed to earn the trust of Turkish Muslims, the western powers withdrew their occupation forces and Jewish dictator Mustafa Kemal became the new ruler of Turkey. O People! Is it not true that the new western dress code, which was brought by the enemies of Islam after the establishment of the oppressive secular republic by Jews, is against the Human Rights - how can one be forced to wear a specific style? The so-called secular democratic republic is only written on paper and their constitution. There has never been true democracy in Turkey since 1923. In particular, Jewish Mustafa Kemal's time was an extreme dictatorship. Everything is controlled by the Army which is run by Jews. The current Military chief general Yaşar Büyükanıt is also an ardent Zionist Jew who has relatives in Israel. Jews and Freemasons, who co-operated with west and founded secular regime over Muslim blood, tried to scrape off the roots of Islam from Muslim Turkey; they made Muslim Turks turn their back to Muslim world, beg West and forget their Islamic past. After the establishment of the new secular regime by these Jews, Turkey, while even signing the Moudros armistice after WWI being one of the major and respected country in the world, today became a reserve state of Zionist Israel and a puppet of EU and USA. http://m-kemal.blogspot.com/2000/01/mkemalmission.htmlwhat is this garbage?
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QUOTE(KHAZARI @ 05/03/08 02:56 PM) [snapback]122043[/snapback] you become lower and more lower all the time....you are sound like a stupid little kid ....how old are you kurdos? because to me this seem who you 10 years old...  actually it is you who seem like a child. "well...all what who come from kurd-"boss" is garbage also him himself lol" I think you are the only one who finds that one funny (or even understands it for that matter  )
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QUOTE(irlandahay @ 05/03/08 02:23 PM) [snapback]122067[/snapback] No I meant the Garbage about Ataturk.
I hate the guy, but that article was so badly written and so full of historical flaws that it seems like a joke that anyone in their right mind would even consider accepting that as fact.
Dont get me wrong here I am not defending Ataturk, but I think his historical record alone suggests why we should hate him without any need of a conspiracy theory. irland, Yeah that article is also garbage, except for the fact that Ata-terrorist was a gay person. Because the Turks are making fun of a transsexual, then they also have to make fun of homosexuals by their logic. In that case, Ata-Esegi is not only gay, but also a dictator and a massmurderer.
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