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10/22/06 04:42 PM
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Turk genocide in Cyprus by Greek Cypriots
Is It All History?
The month of July is marked by mourning and protestations in Cyprus on the one side, while by jubilations and celebrations on the other. Even this sharp contrast in public mood shows the depth of the division between the two peoples of this eastern Mediterranean island ñ the Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots. We believe the 28th Anniversary of the events of 1974 in Cyprus is an appropriate time to reflect on the background of the conflict and the prospects for its peaceful resolution. Contrary to common belief, the origin of the Cyprus conflict dates back not to 1974, but to December 1963, when the Greek Cypriots, aided and abetted by Greece, launched an all-out attack on the Turkish Cypriot people aimed at annexing the island to Greece (Enosis).
Turkish Cypriots resisted Greek attempts to "hellenize" Cyprus and, with the help of Turkey, which is a Guarantor Power under the Treaty of Guarantee of 1960, succeeded in defending and maintaining their existence in Cyprus as one of the two equal peoples of the island. Yet, this defense came at a heavy cost to the Turkish Cypriots, with thousands of them being killed, wounded or missing; a quarter of the Turkish Cypriot population evicted from their homes and properties in 103 villages; and the entire Turkish Cypriot population condemned to live in enclaves on 3% of the territory of Cyprus deprived of all human rights. The suffering of the Turkish Cypriots prompted a prominent US official, Mr. George W. Ball, former US Undersecretary of State, to write the following in his memoirs entitled "The Past Has Another Pattern":
" Makariosí central interest was to block off Turkish intervention so that he and his Greek Cypriots could go on happily massacring Turkish Cypriots. The Greek Cypriots just want to be left alone to kill the Turkish Cypriots."
The severity of Greek Cypriot attacks was such that The Washington Post of 17 February 1964 reported in a relevant article that "Greek Cypriot fanatics appear (ed) bent on a policy of genocide"
The years - long campaign of the Greek Cypriots to annex the island to Greece culminated in the coup díetat of 15 July 1974, which was described as "an invasion of Cyprus by Greece" even by the then Greek Cypriot leader Makarios in his dramatic admission before the UN Security Council on 19 July 1974.
Turkey exercised its right of intervention under these circumstances, in order to prevent the wholesale massacre of the Turkish Cypriots; stop the bloodshed on the island and prevent the colonization of Cyprus by Greece. Turkeyís legitimate and justified intervention did not only achieve all these aims, but also led to the downfall of the military junta in Greece. The legitimacy of the Turkish intervention was confirmed by prominent outside sources, including the Standing Committee of the Consultative Assembly of the Council of Europe, which, in its decision dated 29 July 1974, stated the following:
"Turkey exercised its right of intervention in accordance with Article IV of the Guarantee Treaty."
Even the Athens Court of Appeal, in its decision of March 21, 1979, also held that the intervention of Turkey in Cyprus was legal:
"The Turkish military intervention in Cyprus which was carried out in accordance with the Zurich and London Agreements was legal. Turkey, as one of the Guarantor powers, had the right to fulfill her obligations. The real culpritsÖare the Greek Officers who engineered and staged a coup and prepared the conditions of this intervention."
(Decision No.2658/79 dated 21 March 1979)
The events of 1974 were followed by a population exchange between the North and the South, formally agreed between the two sides in August and implemented in September 1975, enabling the Turkish Cypriots to regroup and reorganize themselves in the North, and the Greek Cypriots in the South. This created the geographical basis for a permanent settlement of the Cyprus issue on a "bi-zonal" basis, -- a term that has since become a permanent feature of the UNís Cyprus vocabulary.
Is this all history? Perhaps; but it is a history from which we must learn so as not to repeat it. A forward-looking strategy in Cyprus must necessarily take into account the above background of events, the existing mistrust between the two peoples of the island and the realities of today, that is the two-state situation on the island evolved in the course of time. The possibility of a just, realistic and viable settlement depends on the acknowledgement of these facts, not a rejection of them. The Turkish Cypriots deserve to have their own State and, what is more, they already have it, albeit without international recognition.
The current face-to-face negotiations, started at the initiative of the Turkish Cypriot side, could produce the desired result if the Greek Cypriots were to accept the Turkish Cypriots as their true partners and equals. However, pampered by the European Union and a world that has come to view the question largely from a Greek Cypriot perspective, treating them as the "Government of Cyprus", the Greek Cypriots have little or no reason to settle their scores with their Turkish Cypriot neighbors for a shared future. In view of these realities, it is evident that for the current negotiations to have a real chance of success, third parties need to encourage the Greek Cypriot side to accept that there is no going back to the old days in Cyprus, and that the aim of the talks is the establishment of a NEW PARTNERSHIP on the basis of the sovereign equality of the two parties.
Perhaps we could then reach an outcome in Cyprus that all can celebrate.
Prepared by the Washington Office of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus July 2002
Source : www.ataa.org
Regards,
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11/01/06 05:15 PM
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i am half irish half armenian, ireland is free from england, but armenia has yet to be free from the clutches of turkey

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QUOTE(Mordoth @ 11/01/06 12:43 PM) [snapback]97007[/snapback] Ionian cypriots ( Rums ) Were killing us from late 19th century until the assault of 1974 .
and turks did nothing? just like armenians/greeks/pontians/kurds/Assyrians/chaldeans/syriacs/even arabs, that all killed turks, but for no reason... their women and children were not being marched into death camps of the desert, they just decided to kill turks...you did nothing to deserve this! you point fingers at everyone but not yourself? why is this? are you as innocent as you think? i know a hell of a lot of people who can prove other wise. get off the island! you dont belong there!
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11/05/06 10:42 AM
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Yeah ,and Armenians were pinky pixies with a pair of wings .
They were flying all over the Anatolian soldiers and innocent inhabitants to hunt some of them down during the Ottoman army was fightig with the super-powers of the universe . It was good to see the optimistic view of Enver-Talaat-Djemal Pashas whose cabinet is fulfilled with Bosniak-Armenian-Syriac ...etc delegates except Turks . ( None of those were TURK too ) Why have not we deplected you and your fellow men that backstabbed Turkish army ? Seriously , i ask WHY ... I see pictures of massacre in Bati Rumeli ( Western Thrace ) , Bosnia , Kosova , Kirkuk , Karabag and the other lands where the ethnical and cultural genocide is carried out day by day . No nation could do that for a simple convenient reason . ( Actually irlandahay is confused with late 1930s ) LoL ? Death camps ? What were there in those camps ? Slicing machines ?
Naaa ,i do not Trust anyone except a Turk about my national intrest at all . I know why they betrayed ... - Kurdoarabophils = Cheated and deceived by English chicks and bricks of golds . Also , many ARabic Tribe-Leaders were ought to have a place in new inDependant arabic states . ( None of them are independant today ; all are controlled by their tyrant-masters in the Island ) - Armenians : Again a so-called independant state is so-told to be founded for them , DESPITE all the armenian people were rich and happy with respect to Muslims of Anatolia . ( Muslims were fighting and draining their blood for sovereignity of the State , unlike Christians-Judaists . They just paid taxes . ) And we 've been off with Armenians from the date of the victory .
- Syriac-Chaldeans : Errm , actually you've deceived them by your bloody parlors , eh ? It is not a fashion to call every single murder "a genocide" , okay ? - Pontians ? Hmm , who are they ? - Greeks : They invaded Izmir ( in ancient name : smyrna ) in 1918 with the armistace of Mondros is signed. And the MAYOR OF IZMIR is LYNCHED by Ionian soldiers with rifles just because of he refused to cry " Long live Venizelos " . And , i can tell each catastrophy of racist Greeks ,but I'm lack of time . Haha , dunno how they've find to demolish/slaughter and squeeze each Muslim inhabitant .
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11/07/06 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(Mordoth @ 11/05/06 04:42 PM) [snapback]97569[/snapback] Yeah ,and Armenians were pinky pixies with a pair of wings .
They were flying all over the Anatolian soldiers and innocent inhabitants to hunt some of them down during the Ottoman army was fightig with the super-powers of the universe . It was good to see the optimistic view of Enver-Talaat-Djemal Pashas whose cabinet is fulfilled with Bosniak-Armenian-Syriac ...etc delegates except Turks . ( None of those were TURK too ) Why have not we deplected you and your fellow men that backstabbed Turkish army ? Seriously , i ask WHY ... I see pictures of massacre in Bati Rumeli ( Western Thrace ) , Bosnia , Kosova , Kirkuk , Karabag and the other lands where the ethnical and cultural genocide is carried out day by day . No nation could do that for a simple convenient reason . ( Actually irlandahay is confused with late 1930s ) LoL ? Death camps ? What were there in those camps ? Slicing machines ?
Naaa ,i do not Trust anyone except a Turk about my national intrest at all . I know why they betrayed ... - Kurdoarabophils = Cheated and deceived by English chicks and bricks of golds . Also , many ARabic Tribe-Leaders were ought to have a place in new inDependant arabic states . ( None of them are independant today ; all are controlled by their tyrant-masters in the Island ) - Armenians : Again a so-called independant state is so-told to be founded for them , DESPITE all the armenian people were rich and happy with respect to Muslims of Anatolia . ( Muslims were fighting and draining their blood for sovereignity of the State , unlike Christians-Judaists . They just paid taxes . ) And we 've been off with Armenians from the date of the victory .
- Syriac-Chaldeans : Errm , actually you've deceived them by your bloody parlors , eh ? It is not a fashion to call every single murder "a genocide" , okay ? - Pontians ? Hmm , who are they ? - Greeks : They invaded Izmir ( in ancient name : smyrna ) in 1918 with the armistace of Mondros is signed. And the MAYOR OF IZMIR is LYNCHED by Ionian soldiers with rifles just because of he refused to cry " Long live Venizelos " . And , i can tell each catastrophy of racist Greeks ,but I'm lack of time . Haha , dunno how they've find to demolish/slaughter and squeeze each Muslim inhabitant .
oh absolutely! and then, santa claus came in with his deer and killed all the good little turkish janissaries, only because they refused to say "merry christmas" truly wonderful your heroic stories... all these minorities have done such horrbile things to the poor innocent turks! your victims, wow. i really should drop this lie about genocide. your descriptions really cleared things up! the evil greeks faught to liberate their occupied lands, they should all die for it the evil armenians faught to liberate their occupied lands and have a home of their own, they should all die for it the evil Assyrians faught for freedom, they should all die for it so long and so fourth. you admitted it yourself. turkey is a failed state, a lie that does not deserve to keep onliving. sooner or later justice will catch up to you
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11/07/06 08:45 PM
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sometimes, my friend, it is good to trust people other than your own...so you may get an outsider's look at your country....especially when the only people you trust are propagandising turkish pseudo-dictators...
next..all the non-turks in the youngturk cabinet were murdered in 1915 and armenians did not back stab the ottoman army, the ottoman army backstabbed its own citizens...
i love how every time you see a picture of armenians resisting their horrid end, you call them terrorists...
its like "ok now armenians, this is the ottoman government here, we are going to exterminate you, and don't you dare stop us, because we will label you as terrorists"
ever heard of DerZor? thats a deathcamp, and Armenian corpses are found there to this day.
Christians payed much more taxes than muslims in turkey, they had no legal personal rights, any muslim was allowed to kill any armenian if he felt like it. Even with that, some armenians managed to become rich. Armenians WERE NOT ALLOWED to be in the army, and not allowed to carry any weapons during ottoman times. Only in the young turk period were they allowed to join th army, and they were all murdered after doing so. and as you say that it was muslim blood that was spilled, do you know what janissaries are?..armenians, greeks, Yugoslavs, goergians, Assyrians...all christians who were taken from their homes and forceconverted and sent to fight for turkey...
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11/12/06 06:06 PM
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QUOTE(irlandahay @ 11/07/06 09:33 PM) [snapback]97744[/snapback] oh absolutely!
and then, santa claus came in with his deer and killed all the good little turkish janissaries, only because they refused to say "merry christmas"
truly wonderful your heroic stories... all these minorities have done such horrbile things to the poor innocent turks! your victims, wow. i really should drop this lie about genocide. your descriptions really cleared things up! the evil greeks faught to liberate their occupied lands, they should all die for it the evil armenians faught to liberate their occupied lands and have a home of their own, they should all die for it the evil Assyrians faught for freedom, they should all die for it so long and so fourth.
you admitted it yourself. turkey is a failed state, a lie that does not deserve to keep onliving. sooner or later justice will catch up to you
Yeah yeah , there were just pink Armenian pixies all over anatolia since Turks invaded (!) their ancestral region . All those minorities ( except Jews - Syriac Chaldeans ) have treated such like an inhumanic brute . Of course it is not a minority movement ,it was A REVOLT against Turks . We 're poor , innocent bunch of people including you , that are cheated by Western lads and their Look @ each one of us . You are DESOLATED of your own . Bosniaks ...etc , i meant all . All we got the crops of brutality of our own . WE 'VE betrayed and preferred to detach from Turkish empire . And what now ? All we suffer , if we 'd protect it rather than isolating ourselves of our own ; i mean a confederate state, not an Imperial - Sheria dominancy ; we' d be much more honorable ... And today ; USA - Russians are laughing @us . BTW ; They are NOT Greeks , the term "Grek" and " Ionian " are too far from each other . They are Ionians ( And it is strange to see the Armos wished to detach after 800 years WOW ! ) QUOTE(Hosank) sometimes, my friend, it is good to trust people other than your own...so you may get an outsider's look at your country....especially when the only people you trust are propagandising turkish pseudo-dictators...
next..all the non-turks in the youngturk cabinet were murdered in 1915 and armenians did not back stab the ottoman army, the ottoman army backstabbed its own citizens...
i love how every time you see a picture of armenians resisting their horrid end, you call them terrorists...
its like "ok now armenians, this is the ottoman government here, we are going to exterminate you, and don't you dare stop us, because we will label you as terrorists"
ever heard of DerZor? thats a deathcamp, and Armenian corpses are found there to this day.
Christians payed much more taxes than muslims in turkey, they had no legal personal rights, any muslim was allowed to kill any armenian if he felt like it. Even with that, some armenians managed to become rich. Armenians WERE NOT ALLOWED to be in the army, and not allowed to carry any weapons during ottoman times. Only in the young turk period were they allowed to join th army, and they were all murdered after doing so. and as you say that it was muslim blood that was spilled, do you know what janissaries are?..armenians, greeks, Yugoslavs, goergians, Assyrians...all christians who were taken from their homes and forceconverted and sent to fight for turkey... ARMY Backstabs its own people ? That is funny , there was A STATE - COMPULSORY advisement upon their citizens , called YOUNG TURKs ( Geune Turc , sth like that ) . All Armenian ministers of Ottoman Gov. signed the draft of Armenian Relocation , what about them ? Were They backstabbed their Christian brethren too ? ( I 'm not a Pseudo Dictator , no Dictators existed in Turkish history ) The term is not DerZor , it is DEL El - Zorr , the desert where is said to be a new homeland of Armenians . ( Why should the gov. get rid of ECONOMICALLY , SOCIALLY dominant people after 800 years ? They also showed their influence upon the anatolian re-building , exactly you did not hear about the assistant of Ataturk , Vahram Cerciyan ) - And the Dean of Turkish Lingual Assembly ; Hagop Dilacar ... I could tell you more about strange laws of Sheria !!! - You said they were unable to carry weapon ..etc Any Christians could ride when Muslims are pedestrian . Only Muslim can ride when a non-Muslim is pedestrian . ( Strange )
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11/14/06 11:52 PM
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Yeah yeah , there were just pink Armenian pixies all over anatolia since Turks invaded (!) their ancestral region . All those minorities ( except Jews - Syriac Chaldeans ) have treated such like an inhumanic brute . Of course it is not a minority movement ,it was A REVOLT against Turks . We 're poor , innocent bunch of people including you , that are cheated by Western lads and their Look @ each one of us . You are DESOLATED of your own . Bosniaks ...etc , i meant all . All we got the crops of brutality of our own . WE 'VE betrayed and preferred to detach from Turkish empire . And what now ? All we suffer , if we 'd protect it rather than isolating ourselves of our own ; i mean a confederate state, not an Imperial - Sheria dominancy ; we' d be much more honorable ... And today ; USA - Russians are laughing @us .
BTW ; They are NOT Greeks , the term "Grek" and " Ionian " are too far from each other . They are Ionians ( And it is strange to see the Armos wished to detach after 800 years WOW ! )
that part is not english, it would be nice of you to explain yourself...because i did not understand a word!
but i do understand the second part, and i will therefor only answer that one
the army DID back stab the people, because since 1908 (i think thats the date the y. turks took power) armenians were 'theoretically' full citisens, and thus entitled to protection, not mass murder or genocide.
2, armenians did not sign the paper, because they were killed in the night of the 25th of april 1915
"All Armenian ministers of Ottoman Gov. signed the draft of Armenian Relocation" <---your words!...you basically agree to ottomans ordering the genocide of armenians (well all know what 'relocation is') and, i know what you will answer...IT WAS RELOCATION, then, if it was, mordy, tell me why turko-muslims in the reason were not genoci..eumh...sorry, relocated then?
"Any Christians could ride when Muslims are pedestrian . Only Muslim can ride when a non-Muslim is pedestrian ." i don't understand what you mean
and i didn't say that shariah law, written by mohammed some 1400 years ago said that armenians were not allowed to carry muskets. i said that under the laws of the ottoman islamic state, armenians WERE NOT ALLOWED TO CARRY WEAPONS..and were thus unable to defend themselves, when the turkish army, armed with the newest german howitzers and K-98 rifles came to murder them
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