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AssyrianKing19
post 07/31/06 11:16 PM
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What is the Israeli feelings on Assyrians.
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Hosank
post 05/16/07 03:34 PM
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as a fellow semitic race to withstand the ages.


hmm..the arabs and pheonecians are also fellow semetic races..yet you don't seem to mind fighting them..

but, are Assyrians, syriacs, chaldeans and achadians all of the same people?
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post 05/16/07 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(Hosank @ 05/16/07 04:34 PM) [snapback]109373[/snapback]
hmm..the arabs and pheonecians are also fellow semetic races..yet you don't seem to mind fighting them..

but, are Assyrians, syriacs, chaldeans and achadians all of the same people?


Parev Hosank,

I should probably let Israel_Pundit answer for himself, but I want to point out that the Lebanese group which regards itself as being descended from the Phoenicians is the Maronites, who have a history of cooperation with Israel.

I think the feeling behind Israel_Pundit's comment has to do with sympathy for fellow non-Arabs in the Middle East, who, like the Jews of the Arab world, had to (and still have to) struggle to maintain their culture and identity against the dominant Arab-Muslim culture. Another possible sentiment, which I have heard frequently from Israelis, is that non-Arabs (Kurds, Amazigh [Berbers], etc.) and non-Muslims (Christian Arabs, Maronites, Copts, etc.) are less anti-Jewish and less anti-Israel than the majority Muslim Arab population.

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post 05/17/07 04:53 AM
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QUOTE(Udi John @ 05/17/07 03:10 AM) [snapback]109380[/snapback]
Parev Hosank,

I should probably let Israel_Pundit answer for himself, but I want to point out that the Lebanese group which regards itself as being descended from the Phoenicians is the Maronites, who have a history of cooperation with Israel.


you got that one almost 100% correct. most maronites refer to themselves as Arab despite being descendants of the Phoenicans. among those, at least half of them do not sympathize with us at all and hate us. but we do have noticable sympathy and even cooperation with those that do, and an even tighter cooperation with the fringe group that totally rejects arabism. it is quite interesting to note that many have a cognitive dissonance - they despise israel yet admie the very same leader that cooperates with israel as a "true patriot" - i'm referring to Etienne Saqr (a.k.a abu arz).

QUOTE(Udi John @ 05/17/07 03:10 AM) [snapback]109380[/snapback]
I think the feeling behind Israel_Pundit's comment has to do with sympathy for fellow non-Arabs in the Middle East, who, like the Jews of the Arab world, had to (and still have to) struggle to maintain their culture and identity against the dominant Arab-Muslim culture.


that is correct. there is a lot of cronyism by calling the west as imperialist, while at the same time, oppressing every aspect that disrupts the arab muslim hegemony in the area.

QUOTE(Udi John @ 05/17/07 03:10 AM) [snapback]109380[/snapback]
Another possible sentiment, which I have heard frequently from Israelis, is that non-Arabs (Kurds, Amazigh [Berbers], etc.) and non-Muslims (Christian Arabs, Maronites, Copts, etc.) are less anti-Jewish and less anti-Israel than the majority Muslim Arab population.


that is correct as well. they were less prone to being dragged into the Arab-Israeli conflict and less prone to be dragged to both Pan-Arabism or Pan-Islamism.
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