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AssyrianKing19
post 07/31/06 11:16 PM
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What is the Israeli feelings on Assyrians.
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Udi John
post 05/17/07 11:21 AM
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Shalom/Salaam/Shlama/Parev Ladies & Gentleman,

I hope I haven't hurt anyone feelings or made anyone feel attacked by opening this discussion. I have asked questions and played "devil's advocate" only because I am interested in hearing what you all have to say.

Unfortunately, there is a good deal of writing on these issues that is highly contentious, ideologically/nationalistically motivated, and historically questionable. While surfing the Web yesterday for info on these issues, I came across this example: http://www.passia.org/meetings/rsunit/Arti...August-2005.htm . This Lebanese Christian Arabist author rejects the idea of Maronite descent from Phoenicians, Coptic descent from Pharaonic Egyptians, repeats the (well debunked) "Khazar Theory" of Ashkenazi Jewish origins, and even posits an Arab identity for Middle Eastern Christians which predates the Muslim Conquest. (What would he say about the Assyrians, I wonder?)

Anyway, I just wanted my motivations to be clear.

Peace,
John
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Sanharib
post 05/23/07 07:29 AM
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Hey Udi look at this, this is in the new Zinda Magazine:



Arabs, The Moslem Assyrians


David Gavary
California

Who or what is an Arab? It is very difficult but not impossible to define its ethnic terms. The Arabs might be a nation but in a legal sense they are not as yet a nationality. A person who claims is an Arab should describe her or himself in passport or other international corresponds as of Iraqi, Jordanian, Syrian, Lebanese, Yemeni, Saudi Arabian, Libyan, Kuwaitis, Sudanese, Tunisian, Algerian, Moroccan etc. There are Arab states, and indeed a league of Arab states, but as yet there is no single Arab state of which all Arabs are nationals. But if Arabism has no legal .... click at the link to read more

http://www.zindamagazine.com/ThisWeek/05.2...x_mon.php#bravo

But really, I don't believe that, there might be some arabs that have mixed up with Assyrians but not much :S
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- AssyrianKing19   Israels Stand On Assyrians   07/31/06 11:16 PM
- - Gudea   QUOTE(AssyrianKing19 @ 08/01/06 05:16 AM)...   08/01/06 08:06 PM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Gudea @ 08/02/06 04:06 AM) 86753 Fi...   08/17/06 02:34 PM
|- - Gudea   QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 08/17/06 08:34 PM) 88686 ...   08/17/06 02:53 PM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Gudea @ 08/17/06 10:53 PM) 88690 Kh...   08/18/06 10:30 AM
|- - Gudea   Some days ago I was reading that article, but whil...   08/18/06 10:42 AM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Gudea @ 08/18/06 06:42 PM) 88761 So...   08/18/06 10:47 AM
|- - Gudea   QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 08/18/06 04:47 PM) 88763 ...   08/18/06 10:51 AM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Gudea @ 08/18/06 06:51 PM) 88764 Ye...   08/18/06 11:07 AM
|- - Gudea   QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 08/18/06 05:07 PM) 88767 ...   08/18/06 11:15 AM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Gudea @ 08/18/06 07:15 PM) 88768 We...   08/18/06 11:22 AM
|- - Gudea   QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 08/18/06 05:22 PM) 88769 ...   08/18/06 11:32 AM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Gudea @ 08/18/06 07:32 PM) 88771 Is...   08/18/06 11:40 AM
|- - Gudea   QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 08/18/06 05:40 PM) 88772 ...   08/18/06 11:56 AM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Gudea @ 08/18/06 07:56 PM) 88774 So...   08/19/06 05:44 AM
|- - Gudea   QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 08/19/06 11:44 AM) 88820 ...   08/19/06 06:42 AM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Gudea @ 08/19/06 02:42 PM) 88821 LO...   08/19/06 08:41 AM
|- - Gudea   QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 08/19/06 02:41 PM) 88833 ...   08/19/06 08:46 AM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Gudea @ 08/19/06 04:46 PM) 88834 Ye...   08/19/06 08:57 AM
|- - Gudea   QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 08/19/06 02:57 PM) 88838 ...   08/19/06 09:12 AM
- - AssyrianKing19   ancient Hebrews who said anything about ancient He...   08/01/06 08:50 PM
|- - Gudea   QUOTE(AssyrianKing19 @ 08/02/06 02:50 AM)...   08/02/06 04:43 AM
- - AssyrianKing19   Why would modern hebrew hate Assyrians for what th...   08/02/06 01:32 PM
|- - Diyako   QUOTE(AssyrianKing19 @ 08/02/06 02:32 PM)...   08/02/06 02:24 PM
|- - paris   QUOTE(AssyrianKing19 @ 08/02/06 01:32 PM)...   03/19/07 04:06 AM
- - AssyrianKing19   Ya but they do it til this day.   08/02/06 02:27 PM
|- - Diyako   QUOTE(AssyrianKing19 @ 08/02/06 03:27 PM)...   08/02/06 02:29 PM
- - AssyrianKing19   I have poeplein Iraq who tell me.   08/02/06 02:42 PM
|- - Diyako   QUOTE(AssyrianKing19 @ 08/02/06 03:42 PM)...   08/02/06 02:49 PM
- - AssyrianKing19   So when my aunt call me and said that a Kurdish Is...   08/02/06 07:25 PM
|- - Diyako   QUOTE(AssyrianKing19 @ 08/02/06 08:25 PM)...   08/03/06 03:28 AM
- - AssyrianKing19   No you dont get it the US army confirmed it to my ...   08/03/06 12:48 PM
|- - Gudea   QUOTE(AssyrianKing19 @ 08/03/06 06:48 PM)...   08/03/06 02:07 PM
- - AssyrianKing19   Are there any Israelis on this site or what, becau...   08/05/06 01:59 PM
|- - Armenian   I think another good question would be "What ...   08/14/06 03:07 PM
- - AssyrianKing19   Armenian your right. hey kurdish guys Assyrian do...   08/14/06 09:06 PM
|- - Gudea   QUOTE(AssyrianKing19 @ 08/15/06 03:06 AM)...   08/17/06 03:16 PM
- - AssyrianKing19   Ya right stong. Dude listen my uncle told me. When...   08/17/06 04:05 PM
|- - Gudea   QUOTE(AssyrianKing19 @ 08/17/06 10:05 PM)...   08/17/06 04:13 PM
- - AssyrianKing19   Gudea- your a but hole- Look if kurds like you are...   08/19/06 12:14 AM
- - AssyrianKing19   Apparently Gudea your a kurdish but hole! Mosu...   08/19/06 01:53 PM
|- - Gudea   QUOTE(AssyrianKing19 @ 08/19/06 07:53 PM)...   08/19/06 03:51 PM
- - AssyrianKing19   WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN? I dont want Mosul it ha...   08/19/06 03:57 PM
- - Hosank   stop bickering... look..we defeat the turks and a...   11/15/06 07:40 PM
- - sammyusa   I am Israeli and I'm pro-Assyrian and pro-Maro...   11/22/06 10:27 PM
- - prot9999   QUOTEwe defeat the turks and azeris, then we give ...   11/24/06 06:51 AM
- - AssyrianKing19   Hosank defeat turkey? I dont think that will happe...   11/24/06 07:18 PM
|- - Sanharib   Okay btt, do Israelis like us or not? Because I...   02/14/07 08:25 AM
|- - Mordoth   QUOTE(Sanharib @ 02/14/07 09:25 AM) 10391...   02/25/07 03:58 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Mordoth @ 02/25/07 09:58 PM) 104370...   02/26/07 05:10 PM
- - concheet   I don't know that Israel has a "stand,...   03/16/07 09:59 PM
- - Udi John   I have lived in Israel. I believe that Sammy...   03/22/07 05:51 PM
- - Sanharib   Shlama Udi I didn't know about this book. Do ...   03/24/07 06:27 AM
- - Udi John   Shlama Sanharib, I don't know that many Assyr...   03/25/07 11:27 PM
- - concheet   Hi Udi John, Welcome aboard. In your spare time, ...   03/26/07 12:49 PM
- - Udi John   Hi Concheet, Thanks for your kind welcome. I hop...   03/26/07 08:06 PM
- - concheet   Well, we will see. If you agree with me on most i...   03/27/07 08:32 PM
- - Sanharib   But really they/we are no Arameans. They (Assyrian...   04/08/07 04:14 PM
|- - Udi John   QUOTE(Sanharib @ 04/08/07 05:14 PM) 10676...   04/09/07 07:25 PM
|- - Mordoth   QUOTE(Sanharib @ 04/08/07 05:14 PM) 10676...   04/10/07 09:03 AM
|- - Sanharib   QUOTE(Mordoth @ 04/10/07 05:03 PM) 106878...   04/10/07 09:22 AM
- - Sanharib   Shlamalukh and thank you Udi. Well I can answer y...   04/10/07 07:01 AM
- - Udi John   Shlama Sanherib, I opened the links looked briefl...   04/13/07 06:03 PM
- - Sanharib   This is really interesting, but what do you have t...   04/14/07 11:13 AM
- - Udi John   Shlama Sanherib, You mean the conical hats and th...   05/09/07 03:18 PM
|- - Sanharib   QUOTE(Udi John @ 05/09/07 11:18 PM) 10892...   05/10/07 03:04 PM
- - Hosank   you must understand that few languages do not deve...   05/12/07 01:08 PM
- - Israel_Pundit   Hello all, i am new to the forum and as the name s...   05/14/07 01:19 AM
- - Sanharib   Thank you for your post Israel_Pundit   05/14/07 06:03 AM
|- - Israel_Pundit   QUOTE(Sanharib @ 05/14/07 03:03 PM) 10923...   05/14/07 06:14 AM
- - Udi John   Shalom Israel_Pundit, Barukh haba...welcome to th...   05/14/07 03:01 PM
|- - Israel_Pundit   QUOTE(Udi John @ 05/15/07 12:01 AM) 10926...   05/14/07 03:14 PM
|- - Israel_Pundit   double post. the joy of invision. ah!   05/14/07 03:15 PM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Udi John @ 05/14/07 11:01 PM) 10926...   05/15/07 11:19 AM
- - Sanharib   yes rumtaya put a very good point into this discus...   05/15/07 03:32 PM
- - Udi John   Shlama Rumtaya, I did read about how the Assyrian...   05/16/07 01:21 PM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Udi John @ 05/16/07 09:21 PM) 10936...   05/17/07 04:22 AM
- - Hosank   QUOTEas a fellow semitic race to withstand the age...   05/16/07 03:34 PM
|- - Udi John   QUOTE(Hosank @ 05/16/07 04:34 PM) 109373h...   05/16/07 06:10 PM
|- - Israel_Pundit   QUOTE(Udi John @ 05/17/07 03:10 AM) 10938...   05/17/07 04:53 AM
- - Sanharib   Yes "Chaldeans" and "Syriacs" ...   05/17/07 04:17 AM
- - Udi John   Shlama Sanharib, That is a pretty good example of...   05/23/07 01:32 PM
- - KHAZARI   MOST THE PEOPLE IN ISRAEL DONT KNOW EVEN WHO Assyr...   10/03/07 12:32 PM


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