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AssyrianKing19
post 07/31/06 11:16 PM
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What is the Israeli feelings on Assyrians.
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Gudea
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QUOTE(AssyrianKing19 @ 08/01/06 05:16 AM) [snapback]86658[/snapback]

What is the Israeli feelings on Assyrians.


Firstly, being Assyrian is a baseless claim which distorts history,
Secondly, ancient extinct Assyrians were responsible for massacre and oppression of many ancient Hebrews...
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post 08/17/06 02:34 PM
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Firstly, being Assyrian is a baseless claim which distorts history,
Secondly, ancient extinct Assyrians were responsible for massacre and oppression of many ancient Hebrews...


Why do you have always to write the same ###### again and again.
You can tell to whoever, that Assyrians of today arent rally Assyrians, noone of us(Assyrians) care about your stupid comments.


There is no such thing like Kurdistan in Northern Iraq!
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post 08/17/06 02:53 PM
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QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 08/17/06 08:34 PM) [snapback]88686[/snapback]

Why do you have always to write the same ###### again and again.
You can tell to whoever, that Assyrians of today arent rally Assyrians, noone of us(Assyrians) care about your stupid comments.
There is no such thing like Kurdistan in Northern Iraq!


Khon, my dear Rumtaya, I wrote it in long before, when some Syriacs were spreading hatred against Kurds.
Besides, You are welcome to deny your own country Kurdistan! icon_wink.gif
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post 08/18/06 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(Gudea @ 08/17/06 10:53 PM) [snapback]88690[/snapback]

Khon, my dear Rumtaya, I wrote it in long before, when some Syriacs were spreading hatred against Kurds.
Besides, You are welcome to deny your own country Kurdistan! icon_wink.gif


Don´t call me your Brother I ain´t!

No one knows the betrayal and treachery of the Kurds as the Assyrian people do because there are countless true stories in this regard. For example, there was an Assyrian who befriended a Kurd and they both developed a brotherly relationship and wouldn’t do any thing whether good or bad if they were not together. One day the Assyrian was walking while the Kurd walked behind him, when the Kurd said:” I want you my friend to walk behind me and not before me”. The Assyrian was surprised at the request:” why my friend”? The Kurd responded:” You know my friend we’ve been together for a long time during which I never lied to you but recently whenever I see you walking before me I have feelings of killing you and indeed many a time I proceeded to take my dagger in order to kill you but some how I was able to control myself, so I beg you not to walk before me because I feel that I will betray our friendship one of these days and I will kill you” That was the end of that friendship.
There isn’t an Assyrian village which hasn’t experienced the Kurdish betrayal and it’s rare to find an Assyrian who hasn’t been betrayed by the Kurds, that’s why the Assyrians have a famous and well known proverb which has been known from father to son:” If a Kurd becomes a piece of gold don’t place it in your pocket”.

Almost every Assyrian knows this!

What for denying? There is no Kurdistan on Assyrian Lands, there are just "Kurds" who think the land in northern Iraq is Kurdistan!

Never think of a small group they can´t beat you!!!

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A week before the crime two peasants Oshana and Nissan were surprised to discover an area of five Donums of red melons burned completely due to the use of a pesticide which exterminates all sorts of vegetation, and even though They complained but the authorities claimed that the suspects swore on the Koran that they weren’t the culprits so they were cleared. ((Yes, the Kurds have their own “Koran verses” aside from all other Muslims. One says:” maleh fala halaleh” which means the usurpation of Christian property is Halal (permitted). The other one says:” bkosheh fala dijta bhashteh” which means kill a Christian and you will go to paradise. The latter phrase was repeated until recently during Friday prayers in Kurdish mosques and even though today they have less faith in that phrase but they still apply it; that’s how they have been able to establish an area for themselves at the expense of our Assyrian name and history))



http://www.ana-ashur.com/articles/kurdish_experiment.htm
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post 08/18/06 10:42 AM
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Some days ago I was reading that article, but while laughing LOL! I have to inform you that it has no scientific credibility. It just reflects a racist mini-minority's hatred towards a people who raped them some 100 years ago! icon_biggrin.gif

Even a child can make dozens weblogs and write dozens lies like that, but no one take a ###### about what one writes because of its hatred towards another people. Today if you scream all over the world no one believes you that Kurds are raping you any more... icon_biggrin.gif the same as Turks are not hurting you any more!
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post 08/18/06 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(Gudea @ 08/18/06 06:42 PM) [snapback]88761[/snapback]

Some days ago I was reading that article, but while laughing LOL! I have to inform you that it has no scientific credibility. It just reflects a racist mini-minorities hatred towards a people who raped them some 100 years ago! icon_biggrin.gif

Even a child can make dozens weblogs and write dozens lies like that, but no one take a ###### about what one reads because of its hatred towards another people. Today if you scream all over the world no one believes you that Kurds are raping you any more... icon_biggrin.gif


Just laugh its healthy !!!
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post 08/18/06 10:51 AM
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QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 08/18/06 04:47 PM) [snapback]88763[/snapback]

Just laugh its healthy !!!


Yes, I laugh and am happy for what we and our Ottoman brethern did with your grandpa if your grandpa were like you little children in exile; I swear I was more cruel in defeating you... icon_biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Gudea @ 08/18/06 06:51 PM) [snapback]88764[/snapback]

Yes, I laugh and am happy for what we and our Ottoman brethern did with your grandpa. If your grandpa were like you little children in exile are, I swear I was more cruel in defeating you... icon_biggrin.gif


Yes the exil gave us somehow of fresh air!
But hey why do you worry about a minority and half or more then ahalf of them in Diaspora. Don´t worry we won´t bite you and we won´t stop you from creating Kurdistan. Just go on like that and work for your Kurdistan which your Grandfathers have freed from the Barbaric Assyrians!

Now you are the Master and Assyrians are your servents, isnt that nice? Doesn´t that turn you on beeing the master for the Syriac´s? Feel´s good right?

I hope you will have this feeling for your lifetime!
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But hey why do you worry about a minority and half or more then ahalf of them in Diaspora. Don´t worry we won´t bite you and we won´t stop you from creating Kurdistan. Just go on like that and work for your Kurdistan which your Grandfathers have freed from the Barbaric Assyrians!

Now you are the Master and Assyrians are your servents, isnt that nice? Doesn´t that turn you on beeing the master for the Syriac´s? Feel´s good right?



Well Rumtaya, neither you are servant nore we are servant. In KRG all ethnicities are equal. So what the hell more you want? I'm still unable to understand what is your point that KRG is against that? where is the inequality? Regarding ethnicities, KRG is the most liberal, the most democracy, the most friendly one to minorities. we even don't look at religion or ethnicity. just look at Iran, Turkey and Syria, and compare it with KRG. Do you want me post thousands if not million human rights watch or other international organisations evidence about how these countries are AGAINST minorities? If there is a betrayal or treason it is absolutle from the exilees. shame on liers.
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QUOTE(Gudea @ 08/18/06 07:15 PM) [snapback]88768[/snapback]

Well Rumtaya, neither you are servant nore we are servant. In KRG all ethnicities are equal. So what the hell more you want? I'm still unable to understand what is your point that KRG is against that? where is the inequality?



What I want? Does someone care about it? I don´t think there is someone who does, so I don´t need to tell it, it would be just useless! Useless like an Assyrian is right? Useless like Assyria would be for Assyrians!
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QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 08/18/06 05:22 PM) [snapback]88769[/snapback]

What I want? Does someone care about it? I don´t think there is someone who does, so I don´t need to tell it, it would be just useless! Useless like an Assyrian is right? Useless like Assyria would be for Assyrians!


Is it a poem? icon_mrgreen.gif sorry. I was impressed with that.
Who have said Assyrians or whatever you call it, should not live in Assyria or whatever you call it?
How do you expect us to give you already non-Assyrian inhabitant cities like Hewlêr, Duhok, Zakho, mehabad, Amed? Then why turks don't give up Istanbul? Why if it's Kurds turn every body loses justice? Why americans don't give up Washington? Why Vikings don't Give up Scandinavia? Why arabs don't give up Lebanon? Why Kurds should give up the lands in which they have been born and lived?
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QUOTE(Gudea @ 08/18/06 07:32 PM) [snapback]88771[/snapback]

Is it a poem? icon_mrgreen.gif sorry. I was impressed with that.
Who have said Assyrians or whatever you call it, should not live in Assyria or whatever you call it?
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How do you expect us to give you already non-Assyrian inhabitant cities like Hewlêr, Duhok, Zakho, mehabad, Amed? Then why turks don't give up Istanbul? Why if it's Kurds turn every body loses justice? Why americans don't give up Washington? Why Vikings don't Give up Scandinavia? Why arabs don't give up Lebanon? Why Kurds should give up the lands in which they have been born and lived?



Didn´t you read what i wrote? Was there something hard to understand? Did i asked you to give me something? Sorry i can´t remeber that maybe you can show me the part I asked for what you wrote.

What please is Hewler, Dohuk, Mahabad, Amed? I dont knwo this whatever they are!

I do not want Anything from you since you even dont respect what I am? Why do you care about " extinct people"?

What is with Turks? Why do you start to talking about Turks? I am not a Turk to give you Land, because i dont hold any of this lands!

I am someone of those people who you call "Syriac´s, so dont ask me what Turks dont do or what others do!
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QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 08/18/06 05:40 PM) [snapback]88772[/snapback]

Didn´t you read what i wrote? Was there something hard to understand? Did i asked you to give me something? Sorry i can´t remeber that maybe you can show me the part I asked for what you wrote.

What please is Hewler, Dohuk, Mahabad, Amed? I dont knwo this whatever they are!

I do not want Anything from you since you even dont respect what I am? Why do you care about " extinct people"?

What is with Turks? Why do you start to talking about Turks? I am not a Turk to give you Land, because i dont hold any of this lands!

I am someone of those people who you call "Syriac´s, so dont ask me what Turks dont do or what others do!


So you have no claim of Kurdish soil? then don't attack Kurds that they are devil (peace be upon him since he is more respectful than many human-likes), or Kurds are this and that. If you remember we started to wrote some academic facts about Syriacs/ Assyrians when every day you and your friends were filling the forum with words like Kurds are bad, Kurdas are bad. So it was a defence not an attack.
Besides we don't see you as enemy, a main reason can be because you are not a threat to our people. You have no significant presense in the region. I can say one of the smallest communities in much of middle east are Assyrians. Yes we are not your enemy because you are not a threat to us. We recognize every rights for you as have done for ourselves. If there are some mistakes or unjustice it is not all of Kurds mistake. every people have good and bad. generalising means racism and condemned by civilied world. I bet Assyrians will have more advantages if they will be with Kurds than staying against them.
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QUOTE(Gudea @ 08/18/06 07:56 PM) [snapback]88774[/snapback]

So you have no claim of Kurdish soil? then don't attack Kurds that they are devil (peace be upon him since he is more respectful than many human-likes), or Kurds are this and that. If you remember we started to wrote some academic facts about Syriacs/ Assyrians when every day you and your friends were filling the forum with words like Kurds are bad, Kurdas are bad. So it was a defence not an attack.
Besides we don't see you as enemy, a main reason can be because you are not a threat to our people. You have no significant presense in the region. I can say one of the smallest communities in much of middle east are Assyrians. Yes we are not your enemy because you are not a threat to us. We recognize every rights for you as have done for ourselves. If there are some mistakes or unjustice it is not all of Kurds mistake. every people have good and bad. generalising means racism and condemned by civilied world. I bet Assyrians will have more advantages if they will be with Kurds than staying against them.



What for Kurdish soil? Is there any Problem with understanding what Assyrians want? We aren´t asking for Kurdish soil, why should we go and take parts of western Iran? The soil i am talking is not Kurdish soil, it is Assyria.

On Assyria there are living beside Assyrians other Nation´s and two of the other Nations are occudpied the area for themself one part call it Irak(some parts of the north sunni) and the other calls it southern Kurdistan.

You can´t work with someone who you dont trust, so why should we work with Kurds if they call our land southern Kurdistan and cities like arbil hewler?

You know the qoute
There are two persons i trust, one is myself and the other is not you!

Assyrians tried many times to stay with Kurds, but they were always betrayled.
We won´t do this mistake again!!!
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QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 08/19/06 11:44 AM) [snapback]88820[/snapback]

What for Kurdish soil? Is there any Problem with understanding what Assyrians want? We aren´t asking for Kurdish soil, why should we go and take parts of western Iran? The soil i am talking is not Kurdish soil, it is Assyria.

On Assyria there are living beside Assyrians other Nation´s and two of the other Nations are occudpied the area for themself one part call it Irak(some parts of the north sunni) and the other calls it southern Kurdistan.

You can´t work with someone who you dont trust, so why should we work with Kurds if they call our land southern Kurdistan and cities like arbil hewler?

You know the qoute
There are two persons i trust, one is myself and the other is not you!

Assyrians tried many times to stay with Kurds, but they were always betrayled.
We won´t do this mistake again!!!


LOL, Then you have a extrem nationalist point of regarding real life, world... we have lived in this soil for thousands of years. Please next time you read history make sure its author is not Assyrian but try to read the scientific mainstream view of Kurdish histiory. We call it Hewler (Temple of Sun) because we have done so even before Arab vandals invasion, when much of Middle east was land of Aryans. And our beloved Mosul city! tell me who was fighting Hajaj ibn Mosul in the time Arab invasion? We did not come to thius lands just after 2003 liberation, or 1991 Kurdish intifada (Raperín), or 1910s civil war, or time of begining of Turko-mongolians or other hells. Today in 2006 an assyria which has above 99,99 has a non-Assyrian population is no more assyria as a ethno-cultural region. It is land of the Kurds. Kurdewari, or as outsiders know it Kurdistan. It's all about demographics and not history. Besides no one has asked you to stay ansd live here. If you like it you can live with Kurds, if not go/stay in exile and shut up please, because you are/ (becomming) alrady extinct. icon_razz.gif
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QUOTE(Gudea @ 08/19/06 02:42 PM) [snapback]88821[/snapback]

LOL, Then you have a extrem nationalist point of regarding real life, world... we have lived in this soil for thousands of years. Please next time you read history make sure its author is not Assyrian but try to read the scientific mainstream view of Kurdish histiory. We call it Hewler (Temple of Sun) because we have done so even before Arab vandals invasion, when much of Middle east was land of Aryans. And our beloved Mosul city! tell me who was fighting Hajaj ibn Mosul in the time Arab invasion? We did not come to thius lands just after 2003 liberation, or 1991 Kurdish intifada (Raperín), or 1910s civil war, or time of begining of Turko-mongolians or other hells. Today in 2006 an assyria which has above 99,99 has a non-Assyrian population is no more assyria as a ethno-cultural region. It is land of the Kurds. Kurdewari, or as outsiders know it Kurdistan. It's all about demographics and not history. Besides no one has asked you to stay ansd live here. If you like it you can live with Kurds, if not go/stay in exile and shut up please, because you are/ (becomming) alrady extinct. icon_razz.gif


That is what you think and it is ok I dont have a problem with it!

Last Centurie there was an Ottoman Empire, after that there was a British, now it is a American Empire, we see what will follow!

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That is what you think and it is ok I dont have a problem with it!

Last Centurie there was an Ottoman Empire, after that there was a British, now it is a American Empire, we see what will follow!


Yes, and none of which helped Syriac/Assyrian/Chaldean/Aramean; and untill next time (if any) there will be no Syriac/Assyrian/Chaldean/Aramean left, if they won't come back icon_wink.gif
Peace.
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Yes, and none of which helped Syriac/Assyrian/Chaldean/Aramean; and untill next time (if any) there will be no Syriac/Assyrian/Chaldean/Aramean left, if they won't come back icon_wink.gif
Peace.



You know Gudea, those who you call death do live somtimes longer then anyothers.
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- - Sanharib   This is really interesting, but what do you have t...   04/14/07 11:13 AM
- - Udi John   Shlama Sanherib, You mean the conical hats and th...   05/09/07 03:18 PM
|- - Sanharib   QUOTE(Udi John @ 05/09/07 11:18 PM) 10892...   05/10/07 03:04 PM
- - Hosank   you must understand that few languages do not deve...   05/12/07 01:08 PM
- - Israel_Pundit   Hello all, i am new to the forum and as the name s...   05/14/07 01:19 AM
- - Sanharib   Thank you for your post Israel_Pundit   05/14/07 06:03 AM
|- - Israel_Pundit   QUOTE(Sanharib @ 05/14/07 03:03 PM) 10923...   05/14/07 06:14 AM
- - Udi John   Shalom Israel_Pundit, Barukh haba...welcome to th...   05/14/07 03:01 PM
|- - Israel_Pundit   QUOTE(Udi John @ 05/15/07 12:01 AM) 10926...   05/14/07 03:14 PM
|- - Israel_Pundit   double post. the joy of invision. ah!   05/14/07 03:15 PM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Udi John @ 05/14/07 11:01 PM) 10926...   05/15/07 11:19 AM
- - Sanharib   yes rumtaya put a very good point into this discus...   05/15/07 03:32 PM
- - Udi John   Shlama Rumtaya, I did read about how the Assyrian...   05/16/07 01:21 PM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Udi John @ 05/16/07 09:21 PM) 10936...   05/17/07 04:22 AM
- - Hosank   QUOTEas a fellow semitic race to withstand the age...   05/16/07 03:34 PM
|- - Udi John   QUOTE(Hosank @ 05/16/07 04:34 PM) 109373h...   05/16/07 06:10 PM
|- - Israel_Pundit   QUOTE(Udi John @ 05/17/07 03:10 AM) 10938...   05/17/07 04:53 AM
- - Sanharib   Yes "Chaldeans" and "Syriacs" ...   05/17/07 04:17 AM
- - Udi John   Shalom/Salaam/Shlama/Parev Ladies & Gentleman,...   05/17/07 11:21 AM
|- - Sanharib   Hey Udi look at this, this is in the new Zinda Mag...   05/23/07 07:29 AM
- - Udi John   Shlama Sanharib, That is a pretty good example of...   05/23/07 01:32 PM
- - KHAZARI   MOST THE PEOPLE IN ISRAEL DONT KNOW EVEN WHO Assyr...   10/03/07 12:32 PM


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