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An Armenian Journalist Discusses "The Jewish Problem" in Armenia

UCSJ Note: The Armenian parliament was deciding last spring whether to ratify a pact that would allow Russian military bases on Armenian soil. The pact was ratified overwhelmingly, with only four votes opposed. Yet these four votes provoked an antisemitic statement by the Vice Speaker, which in turn prompted some newspapers to question the integrity of Armenia's Jews, who, according to the American Joint Distribution Committee, number only 300 in a total population of 3.5 million.

Does antisemitism exist in Armenia? No, say the majority of political figures and journalists. But it is so only in words, like a lot of things in our Armenia.

The vice-speaker of the National Assembly, Ara Saakian, announced the danger of the "Jewish lobby" and its influence on Armenia. He was supporting the ratification of the pact for allowing a Russian military base in Armenia. He noted that the people who opposed ratification (there were only four of them in Parliament) are "playing into hands of the Jewish Lobby."

On May 3, 1997, in response to Saakian's comments, the Russian-language newspaper Golos Armenii (Voice of Armenia) published an article by Narek Mesropian with the title "Kogda brat idyot na brata" ("When Brother Acts Against Brother"). Here are some excerpts from the article: "Ara Saakian even mentioned the Jewish problem. It is a very painful problem, by the way. And it is so not only in Russia. In short, he sharply criticized the Jewish lobby, which allegedly disregarded all the rules of decency to profit from the oil of Baku [the capital of Azerbaijan]. And the Jewish lobby turned into a pro-Azerbaijan power...Furthermore, it is well known that Ara Saakian, as one of the leaders of the Armenian National Movement, naturally considers himself among the so-called democrats...It is a known fact that the Armenian National Movement is closely connected to Russian democrats. And all the Russian democrats are either Jews or controlled by the Jews...[Saakian] spoke as a true communist patriot. That means, he supported the ideas which will lead Armenia to ratify the pact in the end."

The Ajzhm, the weekly publication of the National-Democratic Union, also responded to Saakian's comments. This Union is led by Vasgen Manukian, who was the opposition candidate for president. On May 13,1997, the Ajzhm published an article on the same subject titled "Govoryat-evrei, ponimayut-Zapad" ("They Say 'a Jew,' They Understand 'a Representative of the West'"). In this article, the "unknown" author blames the authorities, when he says: "the authorities mean Jews when they speak about the West." If it were only the authorities! In the editorial office of Ajzhm I was more than once asked "in jest": "Who pays you money, the Mossad or the American CIA?" And they, of course "in jest," gave me the "Kike-Mason" label a very long time ago.

Moreover, on August 5, 1997, Golos Armenii published the article "Uroven nenavisti povushaetcya" ("The Level of Hatred is Rising"), written by Narek Mesropian, Armenia's poet laureate. This is the introduction to the article: "It is in our blood to hate the Turks. However, we hate Bulgarians and Greeks also. The Jews like Turks, but they hate Arabs. The Arabs, in their turn, are not in favor with the Turks. And the level of hatred is rising..." And then, for some reason, he says: "Forty percent of Israeli children in high school hate all the Arabs." Moreover, the author cites data from a sociological poll that was carried out by the University of Haifa and the Carmel Institute of Sociological Research. Later, he asks himself the question: "Do Jews hate only Arabs?"

The level of hatred in Armenia is really rising.


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QUOTE(prot9999 @ 09/15/06 07:00 PM) [snapback]91971[/snapback]
An Armenian Journalist Discusses "The Jewish Problem" in Armenia

UCSJ Note: The Armenian parliament was deciding last spring whether to ratify a pact that would allow Russian military bases on Armenian soil. The pact was ratified overwhelmingly, with only four votes opposed. Yet these four votes provoked an antisemitic statement by the Vice Speaker, which in turn prompted some newspapers to question the integrity of Armenia's Jews, who, according to the American Joint Distribution Committee, number only 300 in a total population of 3.5 million.

Does antisemitism exist in Armenia? No, say the majority of political figures and journalists. But it is so only in words, like a lot of things in our Armenia.

The vice-speaker of the National Assembly, Ara Saakian, announced the danger of the "Jewish lobby" and its influence on Armenia. He was supporting the ratification of the pact for allowing a Russian military base in Armenia. He noted that the people who opposed ratification (there were only four of them in Parliament) are "playing into hands of the Jewish Lobby."

On May 3, 1997, in response to Saakian's comments, the Russian-language newspaper Golos Armenii (Voice of Armenia) published an article by Narek Mesropian with the title "Kogda brat idyot na brata" ("When Brother Acts Against Brother"). Here are some excerpts from the article: "Ara Saakian even mentioned the Jewish problem. It is a very painful problem, by the way. And it is so not only in Russia. In short, he sharply criticized the Jewish lobby, which allegedly disregarded all the rules of decency to profit from the oil of Baku [the capital of Azerbaijan]. And the Jewish lobby turned into a pro-Azerbaijan power...Furthermore, it is well known that Ara Saakian, as one of the leaders of the Armenian National Movement, naturally considers himself among the so-called democrats...It is a known fact that the Armenian National Movement is closely connected to Russian democrats. And all the Russian democrats are either Jews or controlled by the Jews...[Saakian] spoke as a true communist patriot. That means, he supported the ideas which will lead Armenia to ratify the pact in the end."

The Ajzhm, the weekly publication of the National-Democratic Union, also responded to Saakian's comments. This Union is led by Vasgen Manukian, who was the opposition candidate for president. On May 13,1997, the Ajzhm published an article on the same subject titled "Govoryat-evrei, ponimayut-Zapad" ("They Say 'a Jew,' They Understand 'a Representative of the West'"). In this article, the "unknown" author blames the authorities, when he says: "the authorities mean Jews when they speak about the West." If it were only the authorities! In the editorial office of Ajzhm I was more than once asked "in jest": "Who pays you money, the Mossad or the American CIA?" And they, of course "in jest," gave me the "Kike-Mason" label a very long time ago.

Moreover, on August 5, 1997, Golos Armenii published the article "Uroven nenavisti povushaetcya" ("The Level of Hatred is Rising"), written by Narek Mesropian, Armenia's poet laureate. This is the introduction to the article: "It is in our blood to hate the Turks. However, we hate Bulgarians and Greeks also. The Jews like Turks, but they hate Arabs. The Arabs, in their turn, are not in favor with the Turks. And the level of hatred is rising..." And then, for some reason, he says: "Forty percent of Israeli children in high school hate all the Arabs." Moreover, the author cites data from a sociological poll that was carried out by the University of Haifa and the Carmel Institute of Sociological Research. Later, he asks himself the question: "Do Jews hate only Arabs?"

The level of hatred in Armenia is really rising.


Source : FSUMon.

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As always, you seem to have missed the point. The only reason why the Armenians are showing antisemetic views in Armenia right now is mentioned in the article, "In short, he sharply criticized the Jewish lobby, which allegedly disregarded all the rules of decency to profit from the oil of Baku [the capital of Azerbaijan]. And the Jewish lobby turned into a pro-Azerbaijan power..." Think about it this way...if any culture group in turkey itself started to say things like, "We should let Armenia plant military bases in turkey", or "Armenians are right, the Genocide did happen" through a lobby, your government would obviously not support that cultural lobby right? It's the same case here...The Armenian government is currently in a very tense situation with its neighbour Azerbaijan right now, over the Khatchkars and the territories of Artzakh and Nakhitchevan, and in the middle of all this rivalry, the Jewish Lobby of Armenia begins to support Azerbaijan. Obviously, if people on the inside support an enemy, that weakens the country. This is why the Jewish Lobby and not the Jews are being frowned upon. It has nothing to do with hatred or racism. And I might add that the Jewish Lobby really must have some nerve to support the enemy of the country they're living in. It is comparable to supporting Al-Qaeda while living in the United States.
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QUOTE(prot9999 @ 09/15/06 07:00 PM) [snapback]91971[/snapback]
An Armenian Journalist Discusses "The Jewish Problem" in Armenia

UCSJ Note: The Armenian parliament was deciding last spring whether to ratify a pact that would allow Russian military bases on Armenian soil. The pact was ratified overwhelmingly, with only four votes opposed. Yet these four votes provoked an antisemitic statement by the Vice Speaker, which in turn prompted some newspapers to question the integrity of Armenia's Jews, who, according to the American Joint Distribution Committee, number only 300 in a total population of 3.5 million.

Does antisemitism exist in Armenia? No, say the majority of political figures and journalists. But it is so only in words, like a lot of things in our Armenia.

The vice-speaker of the National Assembly, Ara Saakian, announced the danger of the "Jewish lobby" and its influence on Armenia. He was supporting the ratification of the pact for allowing a Russian military base in Armenia. He noted that the people who opposed ratification (there were only four of them in Parliament) are "playing into hands of the Jewish Lobby."

On May 3, 1997, in response to Saakian's comments, the Russian-language newspaper Golos Armenii (Voice of Armenia) published an article by Narek Mesropian with the title "Kogda brat idyot na brata" ("When Brother Acts Against Brother"). Here are some excerpts from the article: "Ara Saakian even mentioned the Jewish problem. It is a very painful problem, by the way. And it is so not only in Russia. In short, he sharply criticized the Jewish lobby, which allegedly disregarded all the rules of decency to profit from the oil of Baku [the capital of Azerbaijan]. And the Jewish lobby turned into a pro-Azerbaijan power...Furthermore, it is well known that Ara Saakian, as one of the leaders of the Armenian National Movement, naturally considers himself among the so-called democrats...It is a known fact that the Armenian National Movement is closely connected to Russian democrats. And all the Russian democrats are either Jews or controlled by the Jews...[Saakian] spoke as a true communist patriot. That means, he supported the ideas which will lead Armenia to ratify the pact in the end."

The Ajzhm, the weekly publication of the National-Democratic Union, also responded to Saakian's comments. This Union is led by Vasgen Manukian, who was the opposition candidate for president. On May 13,1997, the Ajzhm published an article on the same subject titled "Govoryat-evrei, ponimayut-Zapad" ("They Say 'a Jew,' They Understand 'a Representative of the West'"). In this article, the "unknown" author blames the authorities, when he says: "the authorities mean Jews when they speak about the West." If it were only the authorities! In the editorial office of Ajzhm I was more than once asked "in jest": "Who pays you money, the Mossad or the American CIA?" And they, of course "in jest," gave me the "Kike-Mason" label a very long time ago.

Moreover, on August 5, 1997, Golos Armenii published the article "Uroven nenavisti povushaetcya" ("The Level of Hatred is Rising"), written by Narek Mesropian, Armenia's poet laureate. This is the introduction to the article: "It is in our blood to hate the Turks. However, we hate Bulgarians and Greeks also. The Jews like Turks, but they hate Arabs. The Arabs, in their turn, are not in favor with the Turks. And the level of hatred is rising..." And then, for some reason, he says: "Forty percent of Israeli children in high school hate all the Arabs." Moreover, the author cites data from a sociological poll that was carried out by the University of Haifa and the Carmel Institute of Sociological Research. Later, he asks himself the question: "Do Jews hate only Arabs?"

The level of hatred in Armenia is really rising.


Source : FSUMon.

Regards,


Just something I forgot to add...the Armenian newspapers you quoted are all Armenian nationalist papers that don't care if what they say is politically correct or not- also, they do not represent the overall viewpoint of the general Armenian population in and outside of Armenia...so those quotes don't mean anything on this forum.
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QUOTE(fedayi @ 05/26/07 12:58 PM) [snapback]109990[/snapback]
Just something I forgot to add...the Armenian newspapers you quoted are all Armenian nationalist papers that don't care if what they say is politically correct or not- also, they do not represent the overall viewpoint of the general Armenian population in and outside of Armenia...so those quotes don't mean anything on this forum.


fedayi, your reasoning with an idiot.
he wont understand no matter how hard you try.

but for the smart people here, good posts dude icon_biggrin.gif
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you must understand that in turkey, newspaper articles from the lunatic fringe is considered mainstream...probably has something to do with the entire population being in the lunatic fringe..??

so they do not understand that in other countries, there are different oppinions, but also a centrist look...
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davit, why do you always make up stupid posts like that?
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i believe he does it to re-iterate the benign nature of the discussion.
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LOL! The Hebrew people are descendents of Akkadians, because Abraham came from Ur in Mesopotmia. Assyrians are descendents of Akkadians. If the Assyrians and Israelis are related and the Armenians are looking forward in supporting their christian brothers, then why would they not do the same for the Jews that are related to those christians?

It is like supporting Russia, but not supporting Belorus or Ukriane (which is populated by people that are very much closely related).
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QUOTE(Darkseid @ 06/06/07 07:47 AM) [snapback]110835[/snapback]
LOL! The Hebrew people are descendents of Akkadians, because Abraham came from Ur in Mesopotmia. Assyrians are descendents of Akkadians. If the Assyrians and Israelis are related and the Armenians are looking forward in supporting their christian brothers, then why would they not do the same for the Jews that are related to those christians?

It is like supporting Russia, but not supporting Belorus or Ukriane (which is populated by people that are very much closely related).

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Glock has proven to be a complete imbecile. LOL! Congradulations Glock.

And here is some scrutiny to drive you insane.

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QUOTE(Hosank @ 05/31/07 09:29 PM) [snapback]110350[/snapback]
davit, why do you always make up stupid posts like that?



somethimes after prots post its getting ral boring so i say somethin off topic

BUT i like him.
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glock isn't stupid...i like beer too..

and, armenians do not hate jews.
but, while we are at it, arabs are also related to jews and Assyrians, as well as christian cops, and pheonecians.
the point is that religion goes over race. especially a people who have struggled along side the armenian people for centuries. as opposed to the jews, which were far away from the armenian homeland/
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I READ IN ISRAELI PAPER " YEDIOT AKHARONOT " WHO JEW BUSINESSMAN FROM USA WANT TO BUY ARMENIAN COMPANY AND ARMENIAN MINISTER SAY "THE JEWISH WANT TO CONTROL ON ARMENIAN ECONOMY LIKE WHO THE DOING IN USA WE NO NEED JEW IN OUR COUNTRY"

THE ISRAELI FOREIGN MINISTER TSIPPI LIVNI GIVE HARD REACTION . LATER THE ARMENIAN MINISTER APOLOGIZE AND SAY WHO HIM WORD TAKE OUT OF CONTEXT.

THIS HALF YEAR AGO.
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yes, but armenian ministers say that about the russians, the arabs, the pretty much everybody that gets in the way of their own private business ventures, and either way the minister can't stop the transaction.

and while we are at it, let's not forget that armenia's first president, levon ter-petrossian's wife is jewish..so there.
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