Azeris..you Sure This Is Your Land? Options

[Hosank]

this is a french website...

but they have made archeological discoveries in arstakh and have found the ancient city of Dikranakert, build by the most powerful armenian king Dikran, in artsakh...

many of what they have found are armenian artifacts that date from the bronze age...

http://www.francekarabagh.org/dikranakert.php

wish you could read french

[prot9999]

Frenchkarabah?? Very funny Hosank, it's possible these guys French citizen armenians? Another stupit propaganda and like others, just targeting to mistake peoples. Armenians using always same methodes, mistake peoples and converting wrongs to show like trust.

FrenchArmenians web page can how trust? You can believed any but reals not like this. I prefer get history from historians, historical books and historical sources. Only non-trust web page can't evidence anything

Dear Hosank, please read below like webpages for getting / learning trust and real history about Azerbaijan. More helpful for you.

http://www.euro-caspian.com/azeri_genocide.htm

Regards,

[Hosank]

france karabakh is actually a french government organisation.

most of the people employed are ethnic french actually. and assuming they were armenians, what would that change? would it mean the concrete evidence on the ground in karabakh would disappear? no

prot.. history works with historians, and archaeological evidence. how can you write a book about something if there is no concrete proof of it's existence.

the only people who seem to write history from scratch are your azeri friends. apparently in your euro-caspian article, azeris were 'simply there' and armenians just came...(from where?...it does not say, from the ends of the earth perhaps) suddenly, armenians decided to exterminate all azeris...and the azeris who are 5 times more then the armenians were unable to do anything..and are good people..

eurocaspian is a joke prot, don't you get it? do you not have enough reader awareness to realise that it doesn't even hold together?
you just believe it because it says what you want to hear, not what is real.
then you tell me that you post credible sources

[Mordoth]

Know that " History shan't give your so-called ancestral lands back " .
But we 'll regain our homelands .

Soon .

[Hosank]

Know that " History shan't give your so-called ancestral lands back " .

you're right, guns do, and that is what you used in 1988.

But we 'll regain our homelands .

kazakstan awaits

[Mordoth]

You 've used guns , profesionally , against our ambassadors and countrymen .

Nothing changed from Armenian mentality .

Kazakistan is already placed in Turan .

Armenian question could be solved by liberating modern day Armenia back .

[HayArsen]

You 've used guns , profesionally , against our ambassadors and countrymen .

Nothing changed from Armenian mentality .

Kazakistan is already placed in Turan .

Armenian question could be solved by liberating modern day Armenia back .

more genocidal thoughts i see

[HayArsen]

You 've used guns , profesionally , against our ambassadors and countrymen .

Nothing changed from Armenian mentality .

Kazakistan is already placed in Turan .

Armenian question could be solved by liberating modern day Armenia back .

more genocidal thoughts i see

[Hosank]

yes, liberate armenia, and go to kazakstan, thats how you can solve it

[HayArsen]

Know that " History shan't give your so-called ancestral lands back " .
But we 'll regain our homelands .

Soon .

Blood hungry turk wants the current Armenia too. You already control our homeland which is occupied by kurds. One day we will regain it back and bring the light to purge the plague, that was created by barbar subhuman orc. Just remember mordy

"Grass never Grows Where the Turkish Hoof Has Trod"

[Mordoth]

Sub nations do not deserve a simple acre of land .

You say " more genocidal thoughts " ...etc

That is another ridiculous thing .
I 'm not intrested in Farsi sayings about Turks , because they are also an inferior nation.

One day , you'll regain you lands back ? Armenians have had lands of their own before 4000 years . LoL

You are ancient people of these lands , so referring ancestry may be related to your homo-erectus identity .

[HayArsen]

Sub nations do not deserve a simple acre of land .

You say " more genocidal thoughts " ...etc

That is another ridiculous thing .
I 'm not intrested in Farsi sayings about Turks , because they are also an inferior nation.

One day , you'll regain you lands back ? Armenians have had lands of their own before 4000 years . LoL

You are ancient people of these lands , so referring ancestry may be related to your homo-erectus identity .

turks are them sub-human mongoloid race. The only reason you are not hungry right now is because of your geographical location. Look at Armenia's geographical location; yet our economy is blooming.

You can say what you want about Armenians, because I dont really care what a mongol tartar pig says. Armenians are the superior race you mongol muslim piece of ######. Nobody can destroy us; everyone tried to destroy us in the name of quran; but nobody succeeded. Nobody could convert us into islam.

I today can happily piss on quran which was writen by a pig ###### mohamed.

[Hosank]

Sub nations do not deserve a simple acre of land .

yes, so be happy with our offer of kazakstan instead of asking for more

[irlandahay]

You are ancient people of these lands , so referring ancestry may be related to your homo-erectus identity .

HAHA! he thinks homo-erectus means homosexuel and hes using it as an insult! hahaha

[HayArsen]

HAHA! he thinks homo-erectus means homosexuel and hes using it as an insult! hahaha

haha i just noticed that lol.

Thats why you shouldnt use words you dont know retard mordy

Welcome back Irlandahay; you should post here more often.

[Mordoth]

HayArsen ;

None slaughtered you and your stupid fellow countrymen in the name of something .
Despite your brethren were barbaric gangsters , they were not killed .

Islam does not need You , your sub-race and extreme nationalists .

Turks were superior ; If not they could not resist 4 great battles of the era in 10 years .

[HayArsen]

HayArsen ;

None slaughtered you and your stupid fellow countrymen in the name of something .
Despite your brethren were barbaric gangsters , they were not killed .

Islam does not need You , your sub-race and extreme nationalists .

Turks were superior ; If not they could not resist 4 great battles of the era in 10 years .

hmmm; are you telling me that the personal stories of my great grandparents were a lie? They were just halucinating? My great grandmothers parents heads were cut off right in front of her; my great grandfather was from kars and he also witnessed those barbaric acts. My brethren were not barbaric gangsters. At the start of 1890s Armenians were protesting against discrimination. In your textbooks this is mentioned as a revolt. After that Sultan Hamid killed around 300,000 Armenians. When young turks came to power they proceeded to solve the "Armenian question". Armenian Genocide is a well documented fact; while turkish claims are bogus. If Turkey was Mr.niceguy nobody would hate you; take a look though at Greeks, Serbs, Kurds, etc.. They all suffered under your barbaric rule. Use your common sense!

[Hosank]

None slaughtered you and your stupid fellow countrymen in the name of something .

yes, you are a turk, with nothing to live for, and nothing to die for, nothing in the name of which to kill, that makes you all the more barbaric

Islam does not need You , your sub-race and extreme nationalists .

exactly why you try to exterminate us...we are patriots, not grey wolves like some people in a nation next to ours...

[irlandahay]

haha i just noticed that lol.

Thats why you shouldnt use words you dont know retard mordy

Welcome back Irlandahay; you should post here more often.

lol, thanx mate.
exams are evil... but ya i should be posting here more often, its just i havnt had time to really follow wats going on...but il make an effort from now on

cheers

[Mordoth]

hmmm; are you telling me that the personal stories of my great grandparents were a lie? They were just halucinating? My great grandmothers parents heads were cut off right in front of her; my great grandfather was from kars and he also witnessed those barbaric acts. My brethren were not barbaric gangsters. At the start of 1890s Armenians were protesting against discrimination. In your textbooks this is mentioned as a revolt. After that Sultan Hamid killed around 300,000 Armenians. When young turks came to power they proceeded to solve the "Armenian question". Armenian Genocide is a well documented fact; while turkish claims are bogus. If Turkey was Mr.niceguy nobody would hate you; take a look though at Greeks, Serbs, Kurds, etc.. They all suffered under your barbaric rule. Use your common sense!

We 've heard many tales about armoz too .
But there left nobody to tell us war memories of their own , because all the witnesses of war were slaughtered by ARmenians .

Your brethern were true barbars , if not they would not throw a brigade of Turkish soldiers from Askertepe , Zeitun . ( True spartan barbars )

I 'm sorry for your chill , however we 've lived hundreds of thousands of such .

Armenians were not discriminated , if so no Armenian ministers would take place in the assembly .
All right , take it as a Reaction of Turkish Public for bloody protests ( Terrorism at all ) .
Is Turkish public a scapegoat ? From 1860s to 1920s ,of course i'd drive insane just because of this stupid christianism based public 's extreme movements .
Wow , 300.000 Armenians , when ? I'd declare that day , a celebration day then

Greeks and Armenians are the balls of Imperialists , that's why such inferior people hate superior one . We could have no sense in common , because your historical infos consist of your grandeurs' memories , lol .

We 've no problem with armos , but some armenians have exact mental problems . ( e.g. Armenian lobbies )

Redundant, insignificant , unnecessary

yes ,there was an Armenian empire 4000 years ago , founded by homo - erectus(!) Armenians .
It seems nothing changed from that day till this day .
Still evolution is not completed in armenian race .

[Hosank]

But there left nobody to tell us war memories of their own , because all the witnesses of war were slaughtered by ARmenians .

yes, so while we were being murdered...by the millions, we managed to perpetrate a genocide so complete and surgical that we killed every turk in all of anatolia. and now there are no turks left in the world. but no one knew till you brought it up.

look mordoth. there is always at least one whitness. if you kill one guy, his brother, neighbour and so on would know... if no one survived to witness then there would be no turks on the planet.

Armenians were not discriminated , if so no Armenian ministers would take place in the assembly .

shut up mordy
during hamidian times, no armenians had posts in the sublime gate.
the young turks came in promising reform and equality. there, armenians gained such posts. and that only lasted for a couple years till the CUP went mad and commited the 1915 attrocities.

Wow , 300.000 Armenians , when ? I'd declare that day , a celebration day then icon_razz.gif

i don't understand you mordy. if you seem sooo proud to know that your ancestors murdered armenians, then why do you spend so much time and energy trying to deny it.

please say it: MY TURKISH GRANDPARENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GENOCIDE OF 1.5 MILLION ARMENIANS, AND I AM DAMN PROUD OF IT....

at least be honest with yourself. and don't you EVER claim not to be a racist, and to like neighbouring nations.

greeks and Armenians are the balls of Imperialists , that's why such inferior people hate superior one . We could have no sense in common , because your historical infos consist of your grandeurs' memories

no, you turks are the balls of imperialists, and you don't even have the balls yourselves (lol) to admit it.
yes, inferior nations (turks) are jealous of the success of superior nations (greeks, armenians) and thus hate them and genocide them.

We 've no problem with armos , but some armenians have exact mental problems . ( e.g. Armenian lobbies )

mordoth, you just wrote this in the same post for christ sake, and then you expect us to believe you??========>>

Wow , 300.000 Armenians , when ? I'd declare that day , a celebration day then icon_razz.gif

i think you do have a problem with armos, and that problem is you are a mongol racist darn it headin denial about it.

QUOTE("hosank")
Redundant, insignificant , unnecessary

yes ,there was an Armenian empire 4000 years ago , founded by homo - erectus(!) Armenians .
It seems nothing changed from that day till this day .
Still evolution is not completed in armenian race .

i never even said the words in your quote..and you don't make sense as usual

[davit]

We 've heard many tales about armoz too .
But there left nobody to tell us war memories of their own , because all the witnesses of war were slaughtered by ARmenians .

Your brethern were true barbars , if not they would not throw a brigade of Turkish soldiers from Askertepe , Zeitun . ( True spartan barbars )

I 'm sorry for your chill , however we 've lived hundreds of thousands of such .

Armenians were not discriminated , if so no Armenian ministers would take place in the assembly .
All right , take it as a Reaction of Turkish Public for bloody protests ( Terrorism at all ) .
Is Turkish public a scapegoat ? From 1860s to 1920s ,of course i'd drive insane just because of this stupid christianism based public 's extreme movements .
Wow , 300.000 Armenians , when ? I'd declare that day , a celebration day then

Greeks and Armenians are the balls of Imperialists , that's why such inferior people hate superior one . We could have no sense in common , because your historical infos consist of your grandeurs' memories , lol .

We 've no problem with armos , but some armenians have exact mental problems . ( e.g. Armenian lobbies )

yes ,there was an Armenian empire 4000 years ago , founded by homo - erectus(!) Armenians .
It seems nothing changed from that day till this day .
Still evolution is not completed in armenian race .

YOU DONT HATE ARMNEIANS YOU DONT DO THIS YOU DONT DO THAT YOUR OK WITH US SORRY IM GONNA SWEAR NOW BUT THE MOTHA######IN TURK GUY I TRUST ASKS ME TO HELP HIM BECAUSE 2 GUYS ARE BULLING HIN I SAY OK YOU NOW THIS IS CANADA LETS HELP THE POOR GUY THEN WHEN I GO TO TALK TO THOSE GUYS THAT STUPID SON OF A TURK STANDING WITH THEM AND TELLS ME YOU GOT "BEEF" WITH THEM YOU GOT"BEFF"WITH ME WHAT THE ###### YOU NOW HOW MANY FRIENDS PEOPLE I NEEDDED TO GET OUT OF THIS SHIIIT. THATS IT NEVER TRUST A TURK AGAIN.LIKE MY GRANDPA SAID I SHULDVE LISTENED TO HIM. AND THANKS AGAIN FOR CHANGING THAT RACICT PICTURE WITH JESUS WITH A GUN.AND YOU JUST SAID STUPID CRISTIANITY ANOTHER SMART MOVE BY A TURK AFTER THE "NI##GA" WORD..

[intergalacticman]

i have noticed a trend in these forums, prot posts something ridiculous, and leaves mordoth to defend it.
also, how can prot say he uses only books and historians when he always post links to youtube videos and turkish websites???

aren't Greeks another one of those subnations? oh and arent they the founders of modern civilization? comon they have to be one or the other.

this whole subnation and turanic empire BS are quite racist and only further demonizes yourself. i would really stop mentioning those if i was to gain any measure of decency or credibility

[Mordoth]

i have noticed a trend in these forums, prot posts something ridiculous, and leaves mordoth to defend it.
also, how can prot say he uses only books and historians when he always post links to youtube videos and turkish websites???

aren't Greeks another one of those subnations? oh and arent they the founders of modern civilization? comon they have to be one or the other.

this whole subnation and turanic empire BS are quite racist and only further demonizes yourself. i would really stop mentioning those if i was to gain any measure of decency or credibility

Ancient Greeks HAVE NOTHING to do with modern day Greeks .
LoL ; using the so-called mixture of Pelasque - Illyrian languages do not make them " Greeks " . In Turkish we call Greeks " Ionians " ( Yunan ) .

Prot does not say sth. bad or wrong or stupid nor i 'm defending it .

What is modern-civilization for you ? Those terms - ARe NOT INVENTED FOR YOU , ARMENIAN - , don't forget that .

For a european , That term is valid for European Catholisizm and Christianity-based opportunism . ( Russia and Byzantine-culture referred states are still counted to be 2nd class )
You could do anything ; but they will never accept you .


I Defend Turan , call me a demon or diabolic creature .
What makes your suggestions , credible ?

[irlandahay]

Ancient Greeks HAVE NOTHING to do with modern day Greeks .
LoL ; using the so-called mixture of Pelasque - Illyrian languages do not make them " Greeks " . In Turkish we call Greeks " Ionians " ( Yunan ) .

Prot does not say sth. bad or wrong or stupid nor i 'm defending it .

What is modern-civilization for you ? Those terms - ARe NOT INVENTED FOR YOU , ARMENIAN - , don't forget that .

For a european , That term is valid for European Catholisizm and Christianity-based opportunism . ( Russia and Byzantine-culture referred states are still counted to be 2nd class )
You could do anything ; but they will never accept you .
I Defend Turan , call me a demon or diabolic creature .
What makes your suggestions , credible ?

well that was a whole lot of garbage...

mordoth, everything isnt a conspiracy against the turks. Believe it or not, the term "modern civilisation" was not created to put down the turk.

incredible how you think everyone is out to get you. reminds me of the murderor who sees his victims come back to haunt him...you see mordoth, I knew you had SOME kind of human imotion in you! (fear and remorse...)

[HayArsen]

well that was a whole lot of garbage...

mordoth, everything isnt a conspiracy against the turks. Believe it or not, the term "modern civilisation" was not created to put down the turk.

incredible how you think everyone is out to get you. reminds me of the murderor who sees his victims come back to haunt him...you see mordoth, I knew you had SOME kind of human imotion in you! (fear and remorse...)

Irlandahay there is absolutely no point arguing with a donkey like mordoth. Nothing gets through his peanut size brain

[Mordoth]

We know whose brains are no greater than a bird's in size .
LOL


I feel no remorse , fear...etc ; I never and ever fear from what my eyes are able to see.
Irish fag , know that ; Turks are not designing conspiracies like Kocharian . ( Remember his words : " A second invasion might occur " )

I know what an Armenian is . Pathetic creature .

[Senharib]

These Turks never seems to suprise. They know their fascist state is controlling them like puppys. Rescently a massgrave was discovered by some farmers near Mardin in Turabdin (Southeastern Turkey) When it came to the militaries knowledge they seized the area and forbid anyone to come near, and the were told to be quite about it.

The massgrave is from the Assyrian/Armenian genocide and was Assyrian/Armenian vicitims who were excecuted. But the Turkish doggy state denied all such things and claimed it was remains from the roman days. When intepedent historians from europe came to invistegate these remains it was to late, they had removed all the evidence.





Turkish dogs and all their supporters know what they have done. I just wanna se Turkey, and fascist Turks being bombed to pieces by surrounding nations. It it time for that!

[Mordoth]

These Turks never seems to suprise. They know their fascist state is controlling them like puppys. Rescently a massgrave was discovered by some farmers near Mardin in Turabdin (Southeastern Turkey) When it came to the militaries knowledge they seized the area and forbid anyone to come near, and the were told to be quite about it.

The massgrave is from the Assyrian/Armenian genocide and was Assyrian/Armenian vicitims who were excecuted. But the Turkish doggy state denied all such things and claimed it was remains from the roman days. When intepedent historians from europe came to invistegate these remains it was to late, they had removed all the evidence.

Turkish dogs and all their supporters know what they have done. I just wanna se Turkey, and fascist Turks being bombed to pieces by surrounding nations. It it time for that!

Stupid ,assy ;
Firstly , if the military is to detect the AGE of the " corpses " and the " bones " , the data obviously TRUE , because TAF and TUBITAK collaborate about that .
( Anyhow ; European scientists just SAY ( never prove ) " These bones belong to Assyrians, exactly " . IF they are right , LET THEM COME here to investigate and search the MASS GRAVEs and observe whose bones are they .
( They 'll find some excuses for not to come )

[Hosank]

Ancient Greeks HAVE NOTHING to do with modern day Greeks .

you are right..ancient greeks were actually proto turks, and they were replaced later on by a race of europeans who just happened to speak almost exactly the same language as the ancient greeks, kept their culture, alphabet and lived on their land right?

Prot does not say sth. bad or wrong or stupid nor i 'm defending it .

loll...i suggest that you go back, and read the dialogue ...

We know whose brains are no greater than a bird's in size .

HOOOOHHHH yes we dooooooo

Irish fag

what is it with you and your personal attacks?

Firstly , if the military is to detect the AGE of the " corpses " and the " bones " , the data obviously TRUE , because TAF and TUBITAK collaborate about that .

turkey must be the only country i know of that is incharge of defence AND forensic research lol.

( Anyhow ; European scientists just SAY ( never prove ) " These bones belong to Assyrians, exactly " . IF they are right , LET THEM COME here to investigate and search the MASS GRAVEs and observe

so simple on paper, yet quite hard to do when you turn the site into a military zone.

[davit]

For a european

you are not european !!!!

get it in your dumf/uck head

[Hosank]

mordoth, you turks are not european




look, ulaanbataar is quite far from europe.

[davit]

mordoth, you turks are not european




look, ulaanbataar is quite far from europe.

lol ulaanbataar..

i dont know what that means but it sounds real funny

[Hosank]

capital of mongolia, the homeland of ataturk

[Mordoth]

The map you've drawn is also ridiculous .
LoL , Fag .
You 've added Georgia-Armenia and Western Russia into the borders of Europe . Roftlmao.
( Related with christianity , probably , or an amnesia you're facing)

We revise maps, Hosank . One day , you'll wake up and you'll see those borders among Turkic world are removed .

[Ishkhan]

That's right. Europe's borders are based on common Christian cultural heritage.
Turkey has destroyed its Christian heritage.

[Hosank]

christian heritage, and european blood. when turkey will be rid of turks, it will be part of europe.

[Glock21]

christian heritage, and european blood. when turkey will be rid of turks, it will be part of europe.

Yes, genocide is the answer.

[Hosank]

Yes, genocide is the answer.

did anyone say that???

[Glock21]

did anyone say that???

You implied it directly... how else would you rid the Turks from Turkey? Honest answer.

[Hosank]

hen turkey will be rid of turks, it will be part of europe.

i did not say, that I will get rid of turks, i said that anatolia is not part of europe if it is turkish. so, a turkey filled with it's original inhabitants..greeks, armenians, so on, is europe.

i never implied genocide at all, and i would never, i know what it is like to be genocided, and i do not wish it on any people. so stop trying to put words in other people's mouths

[Glock21]

Weak attempt at backpeddling...
No water has been held.

[Hosank]

Weak attempt at backpeddling...

i don't think so.
i think that my comment was quite clear, yet you seem to enjoy twisting it.
you are the only one here who has even brought up 'genocide', not i.

[Glock21]

i don't think so.
i think that my comment was quite clear, yet you seem to enjoy twisting it.
you are the only one here who has even brought up 'genocide', not i.

You're right - I see the difference now. "Genocide" and "ridding Turkey of the Turks", who you must know aren't going anywhere lightly and nowhere soon, are two completely different things. Yes, indeed, they will uproot the bulk of their entire country happily and move along somewhere else, whilst singing carols of love.

[Hosank]

"Genocide" and "ridding Turkey of the Turks",

once again you fail to comprehend.

no one spoke of the extermination of the turkish people. once again i repeat myself. the argument was weather turkey is part of europe or not. my thought was that a turkey with turks in it would not, but a [geographic] turkey with no turks in it would.

i never said "i want to move all the turks out of turkey, so that turkey could be considered an european country" you see comments where there are none.

[davit]

genicide and war are different things we cant genicide them they have army we can make war with them which 10ths of countries are waiting for us to .

[Hosank]

but that doesn't make turks dissapear.

[davit]

but that doesn't make turks dissapear.

yea but if we win it makes turks suck on my klir

[Hosank]

amot!

but, eh, if that's what you want...

[Mordoth]

That's right. Europe's borders are based on common Christian cultural heritage.
Turkey has destroyed its Christian heritage.

That is what we call " Extreme Stupidity " .
In Caucasus Islamic people dominate Christian publics . Nothing to do with christianity .

When our armies drawn by Anatolia, nobody faced us , if somebody opposed with our regiments ; Turks would not be here .

christian heritage, and european blood. when turkey will be rid of turks, it will be part of europe.

European blood , lol .

When we speak about the word " blood " ; we are called fascists . ( Ahaha ! Christian kurd Hosank )

At least there are still TURKs in the region so that ; it can't be a part of India as Armenia . LoL .