QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/02/07 09:18 AM) [snapback]106330[/snapback]
lol mordoth you are quite the funny guy....
for the past several months, you have been a little turk trying to integrate into europe, suddenly, you are a great civilisaiton of the east.
There is no need for an integration and i 've forced no such effort .
We 're the heirs and architects of the Eastern Civilization .
"ah..the great turkish nation that has shaped the world for 6 million yearssss....mordoth, tell me how many of the people that you call 'turk' actually claim to be as such? probably none..
im sure the fins and and bulgars do not run around yelling PAN-TURKISM IS THE ONLY WAY.
yes sure, and the Negro africans are also turks.
No , 16000 years .
Sumerians , Hittites ( Eti ; in its true form ) are also the tribes that are related to Turks ; proved by several archeologists .
A person who feel himself a Turk , is an actual Turk .
A person that has the identity card of Turkiye ; is constitutionally A TURK .
Latins , Greeks , Indians , Afro-Negros , Semites , Chinese-Japanese-Thai-Korean-Vietnamese , Slavs , Anglo-saxonians , Javas are not Turkic .
mordoth...ottoman EMPIRE???..you are the imperialists, stop pretending that you are the victims of european imperialism, since it is your empire that caused those of europe to gain power.
it is ottoman capture of constantinople and control of east-west trade that forced columbus to search for a shorter route to india, thus opening the age of discovery and european domination.
IF we were imperialists ;
- We 'd destroy , demolish instead of Building and Constructing our monuments to foreign regions while Anatolia was starving .
- We 'd exploit their resources , we 're stupid , that's why we did not torture our foreigner folks .
Algerians , Tunusians , Libians , Egyptians are also assume themselves as heir of ottoman Empire . ( e.g. Kaddafi was educated in Istanbul , Military High School )
European domination started by the time when Columbus reached to India (!) by passing Hope Bay .
Trade routes are ignored , the Ottoman had also a project to stop that .
The Bosphorus of Suez !
It was an Ottoman project , but just because of Padishah , it could not take place .
the europeans are a real power, since they were able to control almost the entire world. they did not have to genocide nations in order to get their will done...(that being said, i recognise lack of behaviour by certain french or belgian colonialists)
so, the great desire to join turkey is what sparked the russian and chiniese revolutions?
founded what? all you have done is destroy..your great heros: attila, genkis khan, osman, attaturk have done nothing but destroy, murder, and burn everything they come across.
the 'real' turkik nations: turkmenistan, kazakstan, uzbekistan,and so on are dirty countries. the Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Khazars, Kyrgyz and Uygurs are dirt poor and live in yurts all day.
if that is what you call civilisation, that is fine with me, why don't you go live there, away from us uncivilised barbaric white people. go 'found the modern world of the turk' over there with your brothers, instead of trying to enter the EU and ###### about how we are inferior peoples. go live with your superior asiatic people,
They are real power , that's true , but they are also true barbarians , nothing changed .
French killed Algerians , 2 millions of people lost during the civil war that aimed to get rid of French domination . ( French concentrated Algerian brothers in camps )
Italians killed Berberis of Libia , Turks in the region .
English killed everyone which she exploit .
Germans killed many of the inhabitants of African dominions .
Belgians killed Congolese people .
Portuguese and Spanish still proud of Cleansing the Turkic civilization in the Mexico and South America . ( Mayas - Aztecs - Indians )
Norway stopped the productivity of Finnic Tartars in the region .
Sweden likewise , aborted many births of Nogays of Lapland .
Russians have get the roads straight in Hungary , Chechnia .
You see ?
And likewise , i can count MANY .
Asian races and "Culture Dé Orient " is perfect with respect to Europeans' . They are living in dirtland , because Russians ignored and neglected their lands . ( Never completed a true project , no achievement in the terrain , no national production but to Russians )