West Armenia Or North Kurdistan?, Discussing the matter of land ownership... Options

[Dîrî]

Map from The Treaty of Sèvres:





Some questions to start the discussion:

1| Who inhabited these lands the last 200 years?

2| Who inhabits these lands now?

3| Who has legal rights to these lands?

4| Who legally owns these lands now?

5| What happened in these lands the last 100 years?



Before hand I would like to ask all trolls to bugger off to another thread... This thread is not a place for hate or rascism - nor am I going to tolerate any insults on any of the parts discussed...

Please be civil and polite...

[Hosank]

first..i do not hate kurds, and i do not accuse them for what happened in the genocide..though it is true that many kurds were manipulated by the turks into commiting genocide.

Armenians have traditionally lived in the Armenian highland, while the Kurds lived in Northern Mesopotamia, next to the Assyrians.

exactly....MESOPOTAMIA..anatolia is not mesopotamia. cities like van, erzerum and so on had very few kurds in them before 1919 when the turks force settled kurdish tribesmen into armenian cities now vacant.

Even 200 years ago, Kurds weren't an organized and united nation. For instance, a Kurd identified himself with his tribe (tribes even had names of their own) rather than with the whole Kurdish nation.

yes, and now you just want the whole middle east to change to give you a coutry from the black sea, the mediteranian to the persian gulf??

we armenians were organised 200 years ago, we armenians were organised 5000 years ago. we deserve our land.

urds, Assyrians and Armenians yours are nothing. Yours will never stole any land from us. I'm sure yours now make masturbation with looking these stupid pictures. Your Abhazas!!! How much Assyrian soldier have? How much armenian can fight againt Turkish army?

it is your conviction in the fact that you have properly stolen our lands that will lead to your ultimate defeat, and your flight to kazakstan.

i also support an Assyrian state with borders to a greater armenia.




those are the official borders of armenia. both kurdistan and assyria should be to the south of that.


but seriously though..there is enough land to share for everyone, at the expense of the turks of course

why don't the kurds let the Assyrians have their triangle..connected to armenia,..that way assyria can have a way out.

and kurdistan could be around it?

[Dîrî]

first..i do not hate kurds, and i do not accuse them for what happened in the genocide..though it is true that many kurds were manipulated by the turks into commiting genocide.
exactly....MESOPOTAMIA..anatolia is not mesopotamia. cities like van, erzerum and so on had very few kurds in them before 1919 when the turks force settled kurdish tribesmen into armenian cities now vacant.
yes, and now you just want the whole middle east to change to give you a coutry from the black sea, the mediteranian to the persian gulf??

we armenians were organised 200 years ago, we armenians were organised 5000 years ago. we deserve our land.
it is your conviction in the fact that you have properly stolen our lands that will lead to your ultimate defeat, and your flight to kazakstan.

i also support an Assyrian state with borders to a greater armenia.


those are the official borders of armenia. both kurdistan and assyria should be to the south of that.
but seriously though..there is enough land to share for everyone, at the expense of the turks of course

why don't the kurds let the Assyrians have their triangle..connected to armenia,..that way assyria can have a way out.

and kurdistan could be around it?

Who are you talking to?

You ARE aware that I didn't say those things which you have quoted??? Those are the words of others...

All the while, you reply like you were actually talking to ME...

But either way... I suggest you re-evaluate your stance... Because God knows it won't be like your fantasising about...

"Kurdistan could be around it"???? What the hell is that gonna look like?