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Dîrî
post 04/22/07 02:25 PM
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Map from The Treaty of Sèvres:





Some questions to start the discussion:

1| Who inhabited these lands the last 200 years?

2| Who inhabits these lands now?

3| Who has legal rights to these lands?

4| Who legally owns these lands now?

5| What happened in these lands the last 100 years?



Before hand I would like to ask all trolls to bugger off to another thread... This thread is not a place for hate or rascism - nor am I going to tolerate any insults on any of the parts discussed...

Please be civil and polite...
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Ishkhan
post 04/24/07 05:59 AM
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Kurds in those borders would be allowed to live as Armenian citizens, and would enjoy it just like their Yezidi Kurdish brothers in Armenia today.
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post 04/24/07 02:42 PM
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Conflict/Cultural/Country Interest: ARMENIA!

i am half irish half armenian, ireland is free from england, but armenia has yet to be free from the clutches of turkey
QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/24/07 11:59 AM) [snapback]107792[/snapback]
Kurds in those borders would be allowed to live as Armenian citizens, and would enjoy it just like their Yezidi Kurdish brothers in Armenia today.


right...and then our population would be 13 000 000 moslem kurds and a whole 3 000 000 armenians. then the PKK will become agressive and pull a bunch of crap against the armenians. our wonderful 60 000 strong army will have to interfere, there will be a wonderful spill of bloodshed...

lets be realistic here
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post 04/24/07 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(irlandahay @ 04/24/07 02:42 PM) [snapback]107813[/snapback]
right...and then our population would be 13 000 000 moslem kurds and a whole 3 000 000 armenians. then the PKK will become agressive and pull a bunch of crap against the armenians. our wonderful 60 000 strong army will have to interfere, there will be a wonderful spill of bloodshed...

lets be realistic here


i dont know if you mean by that that ok kurds wont be a problem for us or th opposite please explain.


TURAN DYING....
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post 04/24/07 02:56 PM
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i am half irish half armenian, ireland is free from england, but armenia has yet to be free from the clutches of turkey
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i dont know if you mean by that that ok kurds wont be a problem for us or th opposite please explain.
TURAN DYING....


im saying I dont mind kurds living in our lands as long as they respect it and treat it with the care it deserves. there are beautiful 4000 year old monuments there. but I'm saying if we integrate them into armenia, it would cause sectarian violence. its not good. it will only leave room for hatred and more problems.

think of it like this. there are 13 000 000 kurds living in armenia (if it happens obviously). why would they want to be called armenians? there are only 3000 000 armenians living in armenia. it should be kurdistan since there are more kurds then armenians right? it jsut doesnt make sense anymore...why should we be called armenia if there are no armenians left? call me racist for wanting to defend my culture!
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- Dîrî   West Armenia Or North Kurdistan?   04/22/07 02:25 PM
- - Mordoth   LEt me answer all ; - Noone has the legal rights...   04/22/07 02:30 PM
- - Hosank   yes... as you can clearly note on the pics you h...   04/22/07 02:47 PM
- - Ishkhan   Why would you go back only 200 years? Armenians ha...   04/22/07 02:49 PM
- - Hosank   help them go to their kurdistan, where they may li...   04/22/07 02:51 PM
- - Dîrî   @ Hosank The map is from the Treaty of Sèvres... ...   04/22/07 03:15 PM
- - Ishkhan   Armenians have traditionally lived in the Armenian...   04/22/07 05:05 PM
- - Hosank   but the land north of van has never been part of t...   04/22/07 07:02 PM
- - HayArsen   Its West Armenia. You helped turks do the dirty wo...   04/22/07 07:56 PM
|- - Jam   QUOTE(HayArsen @ 04/22/07 07:56 PM) 10759...   04/22/07 09:50 PM
- - davit2   ok everyone in real life im davit i just forgot my...   04/22/07 10:03 PM
- - Dîrî   HayArsen and Davit, you're threats and insults...   04/23/07 03:56 AM
|- - Jam   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 04/23/07 03:56 AM) 107636@Ja...   04/23/07 01:42 PM
- - Dîrî   By the way - MOST Kurds are VERY positive to the A...   04/23/07 04:13 AM
- - Senharib   1| If we speak about today's Turkey. Then that...   04/23/07 10:53 AM
- - Senharib   "http://kurdisharmenian.blogspot.com/" ...   04/23/07 10:58 AM
- - Senharib   .   04/23/07 10:58 AM
- - Dîrî   Only joke here, is your hate... I will not sink to...   04/23/07 11:16 AM
- - Rumtaya   For me as an Assyrian, I stand with my Armenian Br...   04/23/07 12:12 PM
- - prot9999   Yours stupids still think same stupid dream? Ru...   04/23/07 01:22 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(prot9999 @ 04/23/07 07:22 PM) 10766...   04/23/07 03:10 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(irlandahay @ 04/23/07 04:10 PM) 107...   04/23/07 05:24 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 04/23/07 11:24 PM) 107717Whe...   04/23/07 06:23 PM
- - Hosank   first..i do not hate kurds, and i do not accuse th...   04/23/07 03:32 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/23/07 04:32 PM) 107694f...   04/23/07 05:15 PM
- - Hosank   yah, sorry about that..i answered pretty much ever...   04/23/07 05:41 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/23/07 06:41 PM) 107721y...   04/23/07 05:50 PM
- - Hosank   umm...i tried to post a map, but it didn't wor...   04/23/07 06:08 PM
- - Hosank   right, so i created a map, but it's hand made,...   04/23/07 06:42 PM
- - Ishkhan   Try uploading it here: http://imageshack.us/ And ...   04/23/07 08:39 PM
- - Hosank   thanks ishxan kurdistan is in yellow, i know i...   04/23/07 08:42 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/23/07 09:42 PM) 107762t...   04/24/07 04:03 AM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/24/07 04:42 AM) 107762t...   04/24/07 04:17 AM
- - Ishkhan   Diri, in that map of yours, the part in rose is ...   04/23/07 08:43 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/23/07 09:43 PM) 107763...   04/24/07 04:05 AM
- - Hosank   actually, i tried to copy that map, but again, it ...   04/24/07 05:53 AM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/24/07 01:53 PM) 107787a...   04/24/07 09:54 AM
|- - HayArsen   QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/24/07 05:59 AM) 107792...   04/24/07 06:00 AM
||- - Dîrî   QUOTE(davit2 @ 04/24/07 03:47 PM) 107816i...   04/24/07 02:49 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(irlandahay @ 04/24/07 03:42 PM) 107...   04/24/07 02:48 PM
- - davit2   i have a realllyy biig question (again im in real ...   04/24/07 02:25 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(davit2 @ 04/24/07 03:25 PM) 107808i...   04/24/07 02:44 PM
|- - davit2   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 04/24/07 02:44 PM) 107814 We...   04/24/07 02:51 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(davit2 @ 04/24/07 03:51 PM) 107820o...   04/24/07 02:57 PM
|- - davit2   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 04/24/07 02:57 PM) 107822...   04/24/07 03:13 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(davit2 @ 04/24/07 04:13 PM) 107824a...   04/24/07 04:28 PM
- - Ishkhan   QUOTEright...and then our population would be 13 0...   04/24/07 05:13 PM
- - Hosank   so biji is like Hail in english? sohrab? your nam...   04/24/07 07:26 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/25/07 01:26 AM) 107840s...   04/24/07 07:41 PM
|- - Dîrî   @Hosank Bijî means "Long Live"... What ...   04/25/07 02:43 PM
- - Hosank   im not sure you read my post properly, so let me r...   04/24/07 09:08 PM
|- - davit   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/24/07 09:08 PM) 107857a...   04/24/07 10:53 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/25/07 03:08 AM) 107857i...   04/25/07 06:05 PM
- - HayArsen   I dont think Sohrab is an Armenian name...maybe yo...   04/25/07 03:28 PM
- - Ishkhan   He means Zohrab. Where did you get the numbers (1...   04/25/07 05:17 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/25/07 06:17 PM) 107951...   04/25/07 05:30 PM
||- - davit   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 04/25/07 05:30 PM) 107953Soh...   04/26/07 11:30 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/25/07 11:17 PM) 107951...   04/25/07 06:10 PM
- - Hosank   yes, irlandahay, and so think most armenians as we...   04/25/07 06:30 PM
- - Jam   Actually there are still many Armenians living in ...   04/26/07 01:37 PM
- - Hosank   yes, but, the apostolic faith is the main pillar i...   04/26/07 02:41 PM
- - Dîrî   QUOTEsohrab..this is the meaning of your name: Fro...   04/26/07 04:40 PM
|- - Jam   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 04/26/07 04:40 PM) 108056And...   04/26/07 05:17 PM
||- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Jam @ 04/26/07 06:17 PM) 10806125 -...   04/27/07 02:34 AM
|- - Urartu   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 04/26/07 03:40 PM) 108056In ...   04/26/07 06:05 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Urartu @ 04/26/07 07:05 PM) 108065T...   04/27/07 02:40 AM
- - Ishkhan   Here's my interpretation of that name: Zohrab...   04/26/07 07:43 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/26/07 08:43 PM) 108068...   04/27/07 02:42 AM
- - Hosank   lol..urartu..i was thinking the same thing (about ...   04/26/07 08:19 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/26/07 09:19 PM) 108069l...   04/27/07 02:44 AM
- - HayArsen   Wilsonian Armenia is what we had after treaty of s...   04/27/07 06:24 AM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(HayArsen @ 04/27/07 07:24 AM) 10810...   04/27/07 04:13 PM
- - Ishkhan   As I said, a lot of the people in Western Armenia ...   04/27/07 04:55 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/27/07 05:55 PM) 108154...   04/27/07 05:07 PM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/28/07 12:55 AM) 108154...   04/28/07 04:29 AM
- - HayArsen   A rhetorical questions is used for its rhetoric ef...   04/27/07 06:41 PM
- - Ishkhan   QUOTEI'm sorry, but that sounds more like a sc...   04/27/07 07:16 PM
- - Hosank   QUOTEI am waiting, to see soon the Armenian colors...   04/28/07 03:03 PM
- - davit   hello   04/28/07 03:11 PM
- - Dîrî   Extremism will never overcome reality... Demand ...   05/01/07 02:58 AM
- - Hosank   QUOTEDemand ALL of Turkey as your Armenia... It wo...   05/01/07 11:04 AM
- - Urartu   Diri don’t even start claims about Kurdistan. Do y...   05/01/07 07:40 PM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Urartu @ 05/02/07 03:40 AM) 108394D...   05/04/07 04:17 AM
- - Hosank   here is something that should help fuel the debate...   05/01/07 08:10 PM
- - Ishkhan   That video is pretty interesting.. QUOTEExtremism...   05/01/07 09:38 PM
- - Hosank   fighting for the RESTORATION of justice   05/02/07 08:37 AM
- - Dîrî   What can I say... You seem to always be on the e...   05/02/07 02:03 PM
- - Hosank   QUOTEextreme right wing thank you, i am a rightwin...   05/02/07 05:44 PM
- - Dîrî   Good luck... And no, Irlandahay has presented hi...   05/03/07 02:30 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 05/03/07 08:30 PM) 108511Goo...   05/03/07 02:43 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(irlandahay @ 05/03/07 03:43 PM) 108...   05/04/07 02:42 AM
- - Hosank   irlandahay, im sorry but your comment made very li...   05/03/07 04:36 PM
- - davit   why did everyone started fighting i didnt get it   05/06/07 10:54 PM
- - Hosank   diri...your comment was censored so i cannot reall...   05/07/07 02:56 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Hosank @ 05/07/07 03:56 PM) 108737d...   05/07/07 06:48 PM
- - davit   i would like to kill this white canadian vansgsta ...   05/07/07 03:53 PM
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