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Dîrî
post 04/22/07 02:25 PM
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Map from The Treaty of Sèvres:





Some questions to start the discussion:

1| Who inhabited these lands the last 200 years?

2| Who inhabits these lands now?

3| Who has legal rights to these lands?

4| Who legally owns these lands now?

5| What happened in these lands the last 100 years?



Before hand I would like to ask all trolls to bugger off to another thread... This thread is not a place for hate or rascism - nor am I going to tolerate any insults on any of the parts discussed...

Please be civil and polite...
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post 04/24/07 02:25 PM
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i have a realllyy biig question (again im in real life davit who been in this forum for a long time i just forgot my password so i started a new account )

my question - whats biji why is everyone saying biji what that means im 100% sure thats not armenian so what is it?
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post 04/24/07 02:44 PM
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QUOTE(davit2 @ 04/24/07 03:25 PM) [snapback]107808[/snapback]
i have a realllyy biig question (again im in real life davit who been in this forum for a long time i just forgot my password so i started a new account )

my question - whats biji why is everyone saying biji what that means im 100% sure thats not armenian so what is it?



icon_lol.gif We know you're Davit... Don't need to say it everytime you're going to post... icon_lol.gif


Bijî is Kurdish, and is imperative of "To live"...

Imperative = Order...

So "Bijî Hayastan" means "LIVE(!) Hayastan":)



By the way... BIJÎ HAYASTAN! icon_cool.gif
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post 04/24/07 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(Dîrî @ 04/24/07 02:44 PM) [snapback]107814[/snapback]
icon_lol.gif We know you're Davit... Don't need to say it everytime you're going to post... icon_lol.gif
Bijî is Kurdish, and is imperative of "To live"...

Imperative = Order...

So "Bijî Hayastan" means "LIVE(!) Hayastan":)
By the way... BIJÎ HAYASTAN! icon_cool.gif


oooooooooooooooo now i git it BUT does bijit means the same thing
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post 04/24/07 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(davit2 @ 04/24/07 03:51 PM) [snapback]107820[/snapback]
oooooooooooooooo now i git it BUT does bijit means the same thing


"Bijît" means the same thing, except it's in 3rd person...

In e.g. you are not speaking directly to "Hayastan" if you say "Bijît Hayastan"... You are speaking to somebody else and saying "Bijî Hayastan" then you can put the "t" at the end, which makes puts the verb in third person! icon_smile.gif

Get it?

Let me illustrate with an imaginary conversation between you and me:

Sohrab: Bijît Hayastan!!!
Davit: Yeaaah!!! And Bijît Kurdistan!!!

OR one of us could refere directly to Hayastan or Kurdistan and say "Bijî Hayastan/Kurdistan"...

But Bijî is of course also used about humans and other things...

It's used frequently in conversations in Kurdish:

Sohrab: Çawanî? başî bira? --- "How are you? Are you okey brother?"
Davît: Ez başim, sipas! Bijî... --- "I am fine, thanks! Live..."

Here "Bijî" means "Thank you for asking - may you live long"... icon_wink.gif
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QUOTE(Dîrî @ 04/24/07 02:57 PM) [snapback]107822[/snapback]
"Bijît" means the same thing, except it's in 3rd person...

In e.g. you are not speaking directly to "Hayastan" if you say "Bijît Hayastan"... You are speaking to somebody else and saying "Bijî Hayastan" then you can put the "t" at the end, which makes puts the verb in third person! icon_smile.gif

Get it?

Let me illustrate with an imaginary conversation between you and me:

Sohrab: Bijît Hayastan!!!
Davit: Yeaaah!!! And Bijît Kurdistan!!!

OR one of us could refere directly to Hayastan or Kurdistan and say "Bijî Hayastan/Kurdistan"...

But Bijî is of course also used about humans and other things...

It's used frequently in conversations in Kurdish:

Sohrab: Çawanî? başî bira? --- "How are you? Are you okey brother?"
Davît: Ez başim, sipas! Bijî... --- "I am fine, thanks! Live..."

Here "Bijî" means "Thank you for asking - may you live long"... icon_wink.gif


and now i get it all

bijit me biji you and qunem turk.
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post 04/24/07 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(davit2 @ 04/24/07 04:13 PM) [snapback]107824[/snapback]
and now i get it all

bijit me biji you and qunem turk.


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- Dîrî   West Armenia Or North Kurdistan?   04/22/07 02:25 PM
- - Mordoth   LEt me answer all ; - Noone has the legal rights...   04/22/07 02:30 PM
- - Hosank   yes... as you can clearly note on the pics you h...   04/22/07 02:47 PM
- - Ishkhan   Why would you go back only 200 years? Armenians ha...   04/22/07 02:49 PM
- - Hosank   help them go to their kurdistan, where they may li...   04/22/07 02:51 PM
- - Dîrî   @ Hosank The map is from the Treaty of Sèvres... ...   04/22/07 03:15 PM
- - Ishkhan   Armenians have traditionally lived in the Armenian...   04/22/07 05:05 PM
- - Hosank   but the land north of van has never been part of t...   04/22/07 07:02 PM
- - HayArsen   Its West Armenia. You helped turks do the dirty wo...   04/22/07 07:56 PM
|- - Jam   QUOTE(HayArsen @ 04/22/07 07:56 PM) 10759...   04/22/07 09:50 PM
- - davit2   ok everyone in real life im davit i just forgot my...   04/22/07 10:03 PM
- - Dîrî   HayArsen and Davit, you're threats and insults...   04/23/07 03:56 AM
|- - Jam   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 04/23/07 03:56 AM) 107636@Ja...   04/23/07 01:42 PM
- - Dîrî   By the way - MOST Kurds are VERY positive to the A...   04/23/07 04:13 AM
- - Senharib   1| If we speak about today's Turkey. Then that...   04/23/07 10:53 AM
- - Senharib   "http://kurdisharmenian.blogspot.com/" ...   04/23/07 10:58 AM
- - Senharib   .   04/23/07 10:58 AM
- - Dîrî   Only joke here, is your hate... I will not sink to...   04/23/07 11:16 AM
- - Rumtaya   For me as an Assyrian, I stand with my Armenian Br...   04/23/07 12:12 PM
- - prot9999   Yours stupids still think same stupid dream? Ru...   04/23/07 01:22 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(prot9999 @ 04/23/07 07:22 PM) 10766...   04/23/07 03:10 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(irlandahay @ 04/23/07 04:10 PM) 107...   04/23/07 05:24 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 04/23/07 11:24 PM) 107717Whe...   04/23/07 06:23 PM
- - Hosank   first..i do not hate kurds, and i do not accuse th...   04/23/07 03:32 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/23/07 04:32 PM) 107694f...   04/23/07 05:15 PM
- - Hosank   yah, sorry about that..i answered pretty much ever...   04/23/07 05:41 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/23/07 06:41 PM) 107721y...   04/23/07 05:50 PM
- - Hosank   umm...i tried to post a map, but it didn't wor...   04/23/07 06:08 PM
- - Hosank   right, so i created a map, but it's hand made,...   04/23/07 06:42 PM
- - Ishkhan   Try uploading it here: http://imageshack.us/ And ...   04/23/07 08:39 PM
- - Hosank   thanks ishxan kurdistan is in yellow, i know i...   04/23/07 08:42 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/23/07 09:42 PM) 107762t...   04/24/07 04:03 AM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/24/07 04:42 AM) 107762t...   04/24/07 04:17 AM
- - Ishkhan   Diri, in that map of yours, the part in rose is ...   04/23/07 08:43 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/23/07 09:43 PM) 107763...   04/24/07 04:05 AM
- - Hosank   actually, i tried to copy that map, but again, it ...   04/24/07 05:53 AM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/24/07 01:53 PM) 107787a...   04/24/07 09:54 AM
- - Ishkhan   Kurds in those borders would be allowed to live as...   04/24/07 05:59 AM
|- - HayArsen   QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/24/07 05:59 AM) 107792...   04/24/07 06:00 AM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/24/07 11:59 AM) 107792...   04/24/07 02:42 PM
|- - davit2   QUOTE(irlandahay @ 04/24/07 02:42 PM) 107...   04/24/07 02:47 PM
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||- - irlandahay   QUOTE(davit2 @ 04/24/07 08:47 PM) 107816i...   04/24/07 02:56 PM
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|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/25/07 06:17 PM) 107951...   04/25/07 05:30 PM
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|- - Jam   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 04/26/07 04:40 PM) 108056And...   04/26/07 05:17 PM
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|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/26/07 08:43 PM) 108068...   04/27/07 02:42 AM
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