West Armenia Or North Kurdistan?, Discussing the matter of land ownership... Options

[Dîrî]

Map from The Treaty of Sèvres:





Some questions to start the discussion:

1| Who inhabited these lands the last 200 years?

2| Who inhabits these lands now?

3| Who has legal rights to these lands?

4| Who legally owns these lands now?

5| What happened in these lands the last 100 years?



Before hand I would like to ask all trolls to bugger off to another thread... This thread is not a place for hate or rascism - nor am I going to tolerate any insults on any of the parts discussed...

Please be civil and polite...

[Hosank]

so biji is like Hail in english?

sohrab? your name is sohrab? that's an armenian nameeee

right...and then our population would be 13 000 000 moslem kurds and a whole 3 000 000 armenians. then the PKK will become agressive and pull a bunch of crap against the armenians. our wonderful 60 000 strong army will have to interfere, there will be a wonderful spill of bloodshed...

lets be realistic here

i don't agree with this statement.
as armenians, once wilsonian armenia is achieved, we obviously cannot force the kurds to leave, for that would be remenissent of what the turks did to us....92 YEARS TO THIS DAY.

but, just like when the soviet union broke up, all germans moved into germany, and many greeks moved back to their homeland voluntarily, though they were not discriminated against.

my point is that im sure that if parallel to a greater armenia, a nation of kurdistan is created, im sure many kurds living in the new armenia would want to move to be in the new kurdistan..
obviously those who stay could be a welcome minority

[Dîrî]

@Hosank

Bijî means "Long Live"... What do you need German for? Don't you understand English?

Yes, my name is Sohrab... It's an Armenian name? Please tell me what it means...


@All

What some of you are asking for is quite impossible...

You think that you will be able to have a HUGE Muslim Kurdish population in Armenia without any protest...?

As Irlandahay said, I support your claims to SOME land in todays Turkey - for example important areas like Ani, Qars and Ararat... Even THAT may be hard to do - since those areas are inhabited by Kurds mostly - and some Turks in Qars... Yet I support that, because I know we need to show good nature and act towards others, as we want others to act towards us...

I do not however, support Wilsonian Armenia - because it would mean a country with a population of: 10 million Kurds, 3 million Armenians & 3 million Turks...

And I do not believe that this ever will happen, because it's a nightmare, even for you Armenians to have 13 million Muslims in your country - and if it is a DEMOCRACY, then the MAJORITY will decide... Which means that KURDS will rule Armenia...

And as you may know - there are VERY few people in the world, who breed as much as Kurds do... Each Kurdish family has at least 4-6 children... This means that in the future of Wilsonian Armenia, Kurds will become within 50 years, 20 millions - while Armenians whom have relatively small families - 3-4 children, will be maybe 6 millions if they are lucky within 50 years...

So please use your COMMON SENSE and THINK... What you are asking for is irrational...

Wilsonian Armenia - is like a "Kurdistan 2"...

I suggest you be realistic about it, and demand Ani, Ararat and Qars...

Here is another map of The Treaty of Sèvres: