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Dîrî
post 04/22/07 02:25 PM
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Map from The Treaty of Sèvres:





Some questions to start the discussion:

1| Who inhabited these lands the last 200 years?

2| Who inhabits these lands now?

3| Who has legal rights to these lands?

4| Who legally owns these lands now?

5| What happened in these lands the last 100 years?



Before hand I would like to ask all trolls to bugger off to another thread... This thread is not a place for hate or rascism - nor am I going to tolerate any insults on any of the parts discussed...

Please be civil and polite...
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Hosank
post 04/26/07 02:41 PM
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- Dîrî   West Armenia Or North Kurdistan?   04/22/07 02:25 PM
- - Mordoth   LEt me answer all ; - Noone has the legal rights...   04/22/07 02:30 PM
- - Hosank   yes... as you can clearly note on the pics you h...   04/22/07 02:47 PM
- - Ishkhan   Why would you go back only 200 years? Armenians ha...   04/22/07 02:49 PM
- - Hosank   help them go to their kurdistan, where they may li...   04/22/07 02:51 PM
- - Dîrî   @ Hosank The map is from the Treaty of Sèvres... ...   04/22/07 03:15 PM
- - Ishkhan   Armenians have traditionally lived in the Armenian...   04/22/07 05:05 PM
- - Hosank   but the land north of van has never been part of t...   04/22/07 07:02 PM
- - HayArsen   Its West Armenia. You helped turks do the dirty wo...   04/22/07 07:56 PM
|- - Jam   QUOTE(HayArsen @ 04/22/07 07:56 PM) 10759...   04/22/07 09:50 PM
- - davit2   ok everyone in real life im davit i just forgot my...   04/22/07 10:03 PM
- - Dîrî   HayArsen and Davit, you're threats and insults...   04/23/07 03:56 AM
|- - Jam   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 04/23/07 03:56 AM) 107636@Ja...   04/23/07 01:42 PM
- - Dîrî   By the way - MOST Kurds are VERY positive to the A...   04/23/07 04:13 AM
- - Senharib   1| If we speak about today's Turkey. Then that...   04/23/07 10:53 AM
- - Senharib   "http://kurdisharmenian.blogspot.com/" ...   04/23/07 10:58 AM
- - Senharib   .   04/23/07 10:58 AM
- - Dîrî   Only joke here, is your hate... I will not sink to...   04/23/07 11:16 AM
- - Rumtaya   For me as an Assyrian, I stand with my Armenian Br...   04/23/07 12:12 PM
- - prot9999   Yours stupids still think same stupid dream? Ru...   04/23/07 01:22 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(prot9999 @ 04/23/07 07:22 PM) 10766...   04/23/07 03:10 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(irlandahay @ 04/23/07 04:10 PM) 107...   04/23/07 05:24 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 04/23/07 11:24 PM) 107717Whe...   04/23/07 06:23 PM
- - Hosank   first..i do not hate kurds, and i do not accuse th...   04/23/07 03:32 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/23/07 04:32 PM) 107694f...   04/23/07 05:15 PM
- - Hosank   yah, sorry about that..i answered pretty much ever...   04/23/07 05:41 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/23/07 06:41 PM) 107721y...   04/23/07 05:50 PM
- - Hosank   umm...i tried to post a map, but it didn't wor...   04/23/07 06:08 PM
- - Hosank   right, so i created a map, but it's hand made,...   04/23/07 06:42 PM
- - Ishkhan   Try uploading it here: http://imageshack.us/ And ...   04/23/07 08:39 PM
- - Hosank   thanks ishxan kurdistan is in yellow, i know i...   04/23/07 08:42 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/23/07 09:42 PM) 107762t...   04/24/07 04:03 AM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/24/07 04:42 AM) 107762t...   04/24/07 04:17 AM
- - Ishkhan   Diri, in that map of yours, the part in rose is ...   04/23/07 08:43 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/23/07 09:43 PM) 107763...   04/24/07 04:05 AM
- - Hosank   actually, i tried to copy that map, but again, it ...   04/24/07 05:53 AM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/24/07 01:53 PM) 107787a...   04/24/07 09:54 AM
- - Ishkhan   Kurds in those borders would be allowed to live as...   04/24/07 05:59 AM
|- - HayArsen   QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/24/07 05:59 AM) 107792...   04/24/07 06:00 AM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/24/07 11:59 AM) 107792...   04/24/07 02:42 PM
|- - davit2   QUOTE(irlandahay @ 04/24/07 02:42 PM) 107...   04/24/07 02:47 PM
||- - Dîrî   QUOTE(davit2 @ 04/24/07 03:47 PM) 107816i...   04/24/07 02:49 PM
||- - irlandahay   QUOTE(davit2 @ 04/24/07 08:47 PM) 107816i...   04/24/07 02:56 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(irlandahay @ 04/24/07 03:42 PM) 107...   04/24/07 02:48 PM
- - davit2   i have a realllyy biig question (again im in real ...   04/24/07 02:25 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(davit2 @ 04/24/07 03:25 PM) 107808i...   04/24/07 02:44 PM
|- - davit2   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 04/24/07 02:44 PM) 107814 We...   04/24/07 02:51 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(davit2 @ 04/24/07 03:51 PM) 107820o...   04/24/07 02:57 PM
|- - davit2   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 04/24/07 02:57 PM) 107822...   04/24/07 03:13 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(davit2 @ 04/24/07 04:13 PM) 107824a...   04/24/07 04:28 PM
- - Ishkhan   QUOTEright...and then our population would be 13 0...   04/24/07 05:13 PM
- - Hosank   so biji is like Hail in english? sohrab? your nam...   04/24/07 07:26 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/25/07 01:26 AM) 107840s...   04/24/07 07:41 PM
|- - Dîrî   @Hosank Bijî means "Long Live"... What ...   04/25/07 02:43 PM
- - Hosank   im not sure you read my post properly, so let me r...   04/24/07 09:08 PM
|- - davit   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/24/07 09:08 PM) 107857a...   04/24/07 10:53 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/25/07 03:08 AM) 107857i...   04/25/07 06:05 PM
- - HayArsen   I dont think Sohrab is an Armenian name...maybe yo...   04/25/07 03:28 PM
- - Ishkhan   He means Zohrab. Where did you get the numbers (1...   04/25/07 05:17 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/25/07 06:17 PM) 107951...   04/25/07 05:30 PM
||- - davit   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 04/25/07 05:30 PM) 107953Soh...   04/26/07 11:30 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/25/07 11:17 PM) 107951...   04/25/07 06:10 PM
- - Hosank   yes, irlandahay, and so think most armenians as we...   04/25/07 06:30 PM
- - Jam   Actually there are still many Armenians living in ...   04/26/07 01:37 PM
- - Dîrî   QUOTEsohrab..this is the meaning of your name: Fro...   04/26/07 04:40 PM
|- - Jam   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 04/26/07 04:40 PM) 108056And...   04/26/07 05:17 PM
||- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Jam @ 04/26/07 06:17 PM) 10806125 -...   04/27/07 02:34 AM
|- - Urartu   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 04/26/07 03:40 PM) 108056In ...   04/26/07 06:05 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Urartu @ 04/26/07 07:05 PM) 108065T...   04/27/07 02:40 AM
- - Ishkhan   Here's my interpretation of that name: Zohrab...   04/26/07 07:43 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/26/07 08:43 PM) 108068...   04/27/07 02:42 AM
- - Hosank   lol..urartu..i was thinking the same thing (about ...   04/26/07 08:19 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/26/07 09:19 PM) 108069l...   04/27/07 02:44 AM
- - HayArsen   Wilsonian Armenia is what we had after treaty of s...   04/27/07 06:24 AM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(HayArsen @ 04/27/07 07:24 AM) 10810...   04/27/07 04:13 PM
- - Ishkhan   As I said, a lot of the people in Western Armenia ...   04/27/07 04:55 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/27/07 05:55 PM) 108154...   04/27/07 05:07 PM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Ishkhan @ 04/28/07 12:55 AM) 108154...   04/28/07 04:29 AM
- - HayArsen   A rhetorical questions is used for its rhetoric ef...   04/27/07 06:41 PM
- - Ishkhan   QUOTEI'm sorry, but that sounds more like a sc...   04/27/07 07:16 PM
- - Hosank   QUOTEI am waiting, to see soon the Armenian colors...   04/28/07 03:03 PM
- - davit   hello   04/28/07 03:11 PM
- - Dîrî   Extremism will never overcome reality... Demand ...   05/01/07 02:58 AM
- - Hosank   QUOTEDemand ALL of Turkey as your Armenia... It wo...   05/01/07 11:04 AM
- - Urartu   Diri don’t even start claims about Kurdistan. Do y...   05/01/07 07:40 PM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Urartu @ 05/02/07 03:40 AM) 108394D...   05/04/07 04:17 AM
- - Hosank   here is something that should help fuel the debate...   05/01/07 08:10 PM
- - Ishkhan   That video is pretty interesting.. QUOTEExtremism...   05/01/07 09:38 PM
- - Hosank   fighting for the RESTORATION of justice   05/02/07 08:37 AM
- - Dîrî   What can I say... You seem to always be on the e...   05/02/07 02:03 PM
- - Hosank   QUOTEextreme right wing thank you, i am a rightwin...   05/02/07 05:44 PM
- - Dîrî   Good luck... And no, Irlandahay has presented hi...   05/03/07 02:30 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 05/03/07 08:30 PM) 108511Goo...   05/03/07 02:43 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(irlandahay @ 05/03/07 03:43 PM) 108...   05/04/07 02:42 AM
- - Hosank   irlandahay, im sorry but your comment made very li...   05/03/07 04:36 PM
- - davit   why did everyone started fighting i didnt get it   05/06/07 10:54 PM
- - Hosank   diri...your comment was censored so i cannot reall...   05/07/07 02:56 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Hosank @ 05/07/07 03:56 PM) 108737d...   05/07/07 06:48 PM
- - davit   i would like to kill this white canadian vansgsta ...   05/07/07 03:53 PM
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