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prot9999
post 04/25/07 03:52 AM
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90-YEAR-OLD LETTER FROM A FIRST-HAND WITNESS:

24 April 2007,

A letter, written by a Swedish commander, who witnessed the events in 1915 and published a newspaper on April 23 1917 has been revealed to read: I never saw Turks conducting a genocide. It is my responsibility to object to these claims. Emigration was a military compulsion for Turks."

Swedish commander: emigration is correct, however genocide did not happen

It has been revealed that a Swedish commander staying in Anatolia as observer refuted Armenian genocide claims in a letter he wrote in 1917. Commander says: "as an eye witness, I object to genocide claims."

It has been detected that a Swedish commander objected to genocide claims that Armenians commemorated each year 90 years ago. Commander Hjalmar Pravitz, who stayed in the Ottoman Empire as an observer, wrote an article for the Swedish Nya Dagligt Allehanda newspaper, dated April 23 1917, stating: "as an eye witness, I certainly object to genocide claims."

Commander Pravitz stated he read the books "Noble Man" by Karl Gustav Ossiannilsson and "The Terrible Situation of the Armenians" by Marika Stjernstedt and pointed out these are all full of lies. The Commander wrote: "all I want to do is relay the events and reveal the distortions in these books."


Source : ERAREN


Everyday we find new evidences about armenian lies. Here are last and will coming more. Where any Armenians evidences, document or withness? Because armenian genocide are big lie.

Armenians! Read above article be carefull! Still Dont mistake peoples! History cannot hide!

History can writing with REALS! not with LIES!

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intergalacticman
post 04/26/07 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(Mordoth @ 04/25/07 07:51 PM) [snapback]107969[/snapback]
What kind of a contribution do those 2nd class subnations have ?
stoo , there is nothing to be taken / used of your vile traditions and culture .
Because , there is nothing within yours .

Astrology.com ? LoL ; it was Astronomy as far as i knew . ( Astrology is related to tarods and luck )
thaT'd not be a sufficient source .

LoL , producing wine belonged to other nations its origin is unknown .
Geometry was already being used in Egypt , whose owner was Turks . ( Remember that Geo means " terrain " and " metry " is something like "balance , adjust " )

Our ancestors , TURKs are the great grandpas of many modern day civilizations .



mordoth your arguments have quite an amount of flaws

first, just because the current government is relatively new, the inhabitants have resided there for longer than that. if i was to use your logic, turkey is new also, since its government was formed in 1920.

in ancient times astrology was quite comparable to astronomy, only because they lacked the knowledge to know about galxies or other space objects. ancient astronomers believed heavily in astrology, and thats how the constellatons originated from.

also, i doubt turkish edited documents are sufficient also mordoth.

of course, simple geometry was being used in egypt before armenia, yet thanks to our extensive trade and exploration, we came upon the geometry and helped advance it into complex geometry alongside greek scholars such as Pythagoras, oh wait are the greek subnations too?

also the meaning of the word geometry has nothing at all to do with this
but to clarify, i found this at thefreedictionary.com,
[Middle English geometrie, from Old French, from Latin gemetria, from Greek gemetri, from gemetrein, to measure land : ge-, geo- + metron, measure; see m-2 in Indo-European roots.]

also here is the history of wine, note that it came from georgia and iran and egypt.
i don't see central asia anywhere there mordoth

The earliest evidence suggesting wine production comes from archaeological sites in Georgia and Iran, dating from 6000 to 5000 BC.[6][7][8] The archaeological evidence becomes clearer, and points to domestication of grapevine, in Early Bronze Age sites of the Near East, Sumer and Egypt from around the third millennium BC.[9] In Egypt, wine became a part of recorded history, playing an important role in ancient ceremonial life.

QUOTE(Mordoth @ 04/25/07 08:25 PM) [snapback]107979[/snapback]
We speak about the newcome nations .
- It is ancient greek , true icon_smile.gif
No , their lifestyle , ceremonies , specializations of Gods ...etc , the route where they came from show that Their ancestors were Turkic .


It is because of Prune-Russians .
The tyranies of KGB still squeezes panTurkism in the region .



QUOTE(Mordoth @ 04/25/07 08:54 PM) [snapback]107988[/snapback]
No , Eastern Turks ( tatars ) and Western Turks are a little bit different .
There is still a Shamanist movement in Kazakstan .
YURT means " site " .

I meant their ILLITERACY , not the conditions of living . A small minority is Russianised .
I believe that ; Turks can REVIVE the Turanic Empire , the unification .
It should not be territorial union ; when all Turks can understand each other ; uniform language of Turkic world ; Turan is established .

Not everyone living in Middle East are Semitic . Semite means "Semoodh" in Turkish .
Hittites , Sumerians both called these tribesmen with no unification " Semoodh " .
Turks were THEISTs , not monotheists or polytheists . Ancestral Egyptian beliefs , gravestones , henges are in the fashion of the ones in Central Asia .


actually turkey originated from egypt, as did the majority of most civilizations. your gods are just adaptation of indo-asiatic gods.
also the ussr doesnt exist, and the influence of the KGB is minimal, and if the Russians are in hunnic lands, i doubt the KGB would have anything to do with it.

the meaning of yurt means nothing, useless info

good luck with your turkic empire man, but i think that the afghans, iranians, armenians, kurds, iraqis and others will have a problem with that. also if you actually hold true to your non territorial BS, the most you will have done is make a universal language, hardly an empire.

no one said everyone was semetic, some were Hittite, some were Aramean, and some were hunnic, like yourself.

also, how can you say you are theist?!
the definition is: Belief in the existence of a god or gods, especially belief in a personal God as creator and ruler of the world. that falls under monotheism or polytheism.

egyptians made obelisks and pyramids and catacombs for their dead, turks made burial mounds, i see no simmilarity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_burial



also, pyramids were made at c.2700−2200 BC, the first turkic state was created around 400 AD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_peoples#Turkic_roots

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QUOTE(intergalacticman @ 04/26/07 01:29 PM) [snapback]108038[/snapback]
mordoth your arguments have quite an amount of flaws

They are not .


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first, just because the current government is relatively new, the inhabitants have resided there for longer than that. if i was to use your logic, turkey is new also, since its government was formed in 1920.

Relatively new as a Republic, exactly .

But Turks are experienced about RULING a civilization.
We are a different nation who Lived barbarism and civilization at the same time .

No , the inhabitants are younger residents than us . Because , our ancestors are Hittites and Sumerians who were immigrants of Central Asia .

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in ancient times astrology was quite comparable to astronomy, only because they lacked the knowledge to know about galxies or other space objects. ancient astronomers believed heavily in astrology, and thats how the constellatons originated from.

Astronomy was comparable with astrology ? Intresting , i 'll search for it .
Constellations ? Did they watch the constellations ? icon_smile.gif
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also, i doubt turkish edited documents are sufficient also mordoth.

But , you have no doubt about Armenian documentation.
Many scientists , basically GERMAN and English have SEARCHED the Turkish theories of Ancient civilizations .

Genetically ,Italians are 85 % (+) related with Turks of Anatolia , that is a modern proof that confirms " Etrucans were proto- TURKs " .
( Similarities between many Latin and Turkic words , e.g. Thei(Dei-Deus) and Tengri )

Hittites were burying the dead bodies after the fleshes of cthose corpses are eaten by wild-birds .
A central asiatic proverb says that " Do not bury your parents before the funeral of the bird "
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of course, simple geometry was being used in egypt before armenia, yet thanks to our extensive trade and exploration, we came upon the geometry and helped advance it into complex geometry alongside greek scholars such as Pythagoras, oh wait are the greek subnations too?

Anyone , who contributed the improvement of science, should be someone respectable .

Turks also participated in many fields of geometry to be advanced and innovated .

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also here is the history of wine, note that it came from georgia and iran and egypt.
i don't see central asia anywhere there mordoth

Possible ," it is also told that Romans were drinking in Senate before the incursion of Egypt "
( That is not exact , inter )
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The earliest evidence suggesting wine production comes from archaeological sites in Georgia and Iran, dating from 6000 to 5000 BC.[6][7][8] The archaeological evidence becomes clearer, and points to domestication of grapevine, in Early Bronze Age sites of the Near East, Sumer and Egypt from around the third millennium BC.[9] In Egypt, wine became a part of recorded history, playing an important role in ancient ceremonial life.
Actually , Sassanids you referred to , were related with Turks .

Also , you 've discussed about Georgia . The inhabitants of modern day georgia were not dwelled there that time ; so i guess that there might be some other Turkic people living in the region , like Avars,Sabars during the Hunnic invasions .

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actually turkey originated from egypt, as did the majority of most civilizations. your gods are just adaptation of indo-asiatic gods.
also the ussr doesnt exist, and the influence of the KGB is minimal, and if the Russians are in hunnic lands, i doubt the KGB would have anything to do with it.

Not like that thou .
Egyptians were a part of white race as Turks .

Russians were no Hunnic .
USSR influenced everywhere it invaded .

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- prot9999   90-year-old Letter From A First-hand Witness:   04/25/07 03:52 AM
- - HayArsen   ohhhh really? There wasn't even a word ...   04/25/07 05:02 AM
- - prot9999   QUOTE(HayArsen @ 04/25/07 04:02 PM) 10788...   04/25/07 05:28 AM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(prot9999 @ 04/25/07 11:28 AM) 10789...   04/25/07 03:52 PM
- - Hosank   prot, it seems to me that since 2005, when you joi...   04/25/07 06:59 AM
- - intergalacticman   also, im not even sure why a swiss MILITARY office...   04/25/07 11:52 AM
- - Rumtaya   Coining of the term genocide The term "genoc...   04/25/07 12:45 PM
- - Hosank   thanks for the info.. yes, arudz..   04/25/07 02:04 PM
- - Urartu   HAHAHA, Prot just up-n-ditched this forum hu? I’ll...   04/25/07 04:53 PM
|- - intergalacticman   [quote name='Urartu' date='04/25/07 05...   04/25/07 05:03 PM
- - Mordoth   The blood of bloodless armenian seems to compate w...   04/25/07 05:10 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Mordoth @ 04/25/07 11:10 PM) 107950...   04/28/07 08:14 PM
|- - fedayi   QUOTE(Mordoth @ 04/25/07 07:10 PM) 107950...   05/10/07 03:00 PM
|- - Mordoth   QUOTE(fedayi @ 05/10/07 04:00 PM) 1090221...   05/11/07 03:33 AM
- - HayArsen   No contribution? Erebuni, currentlly YEREVAN an Ar...   04/25/07 05:27 PM
|- - Mordoth   QUOTE(HayArsen @ 04/25/07 06:27 PM) 10795...   04/25/07 05:35 PM
|- - HayArsen   QUOTE(Mordoth @ 04/25/07 05:35 PM) 107955...   04/25/07 06:45 PM
|- - Mordoth   QUOTE(HayArsen @ 04/25/07 07:45 PM) 10796...   04/25/07 06:51 PM
- - Hosank   QUOTEI wonder whether Armoz would call the tragedy...   04/25/07 06:05 PM
- - intergalacticman   [quote name='Mordoth' date='04/25/07 0...   04/25/07 06:08 PM
|- - Mordoth   QUOTE(intergalacticman @ 04/25/07 07:08 P...   04/25/07 06:38 PM
- - Hosank   HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA QUOTEWhat kind of a contributi...   04/25/07 07:21 PM
|- - Mordoth   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/25/07 08:21 PM) 107977i...   04/25/07 07:25 PM
- - Hosank   but kazaks lived in yurts since the time of attila...   04/25/07 07:45 PM
|- - Mordoth   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/25/07 08:45 PM) 107984b...   04/25/07 07:54 PM
- - Hosank   QUOTEI believe that ; Turks can REVIVE the Turanic...   04/25/07 08:08 PM
|- - Mordoth   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/25/07 09:08 PM) 107990t...   04/25/07 08:37 PM
|- - davit   QUOTE(Mordoth @ 04/25/07 08:37 PM) 107997...   04/26/07 11:19 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Mordoth @ 04/26/07 02:37 AM) 107997...   04/28/07 08:00 PM
- - HayArsen   ahahahaha so the turkish contribution are egyptian...   04/25/07 08:52 PM
- - Hosank   lol, mordope, that's a good one..may i use it ...   04/25/07 08:55 PM
- - HayArsen   Հայ Արի...   04/25/07 09:13 PM
- - Hosank   հահա մե...   04/26/07 09:54 AM
- - Hosank   yes, but the arameans are semites, and there were ...   04/26/07 04:33 PM
- - intergalacticman   hmmm, thank you for enlightening me lets see if a...   04/26/07 09:30 PM
- - intergalacticman   QUOTE(prot9999 @ 04/25/07 04:52 AM) 10787...   04/27/07 11:43 AM
- - HayArsen   irlandahay, i don't think there is any point d...   04/29/07 11:31 AM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(HayArsen @ 04/29/07 05:31 PM) 10825...   04/29/07 04:52 PM
|- - fedayi   QUOTE(HayArsen @ 04/29/07 01:31 PM) 10825...   05/10/07 03:01 PM
- - Hosank   galacticman, good job, im proud of you, a little r...   04/29/07 11:39 AM
|- - fedayi   Hosank, did you get that picture out of a hayots b...   05/10/07 03:04 PM
- - davit   QUOTE(prot9999 @ 04/25/07 03:52 AM) 10787...   05/10/07 03:09 PM
- - Hosank   QUOTE(fedayi @ 05/10/07 09:04 PM) 109028H...   05/10/07 03:24 PM
- - Hosank   QUOTEThe sentence in bold was what i wish to hear ...   05/11/07 08:05 AM
|- - Mordoth   QUOTE(Hosank @ 05/11/07 09:05 AM) 109078i...   05/14/07 07:53 AM
- - intergalacticman   QUOTE(Mordoth @ 05/14/07 08:53 AM) 109244...   05/14/07 11:40 AM
- - Hosank   QUOTE( Even though you are a not an Armenian ) cu...   05/14/07 12:08 PM
- - davit   helo   05/14/07 05:14 PM
- - Urartu   LOL, Turks were not Hittites. In fact, the Hittite...   05/14/07 05:49 PM
- - Hosank   right... armenians can see hittites as forefather...   05/15/07 10:38 PM
- - fedayi   Okay, turk, listen to this: -> The Mongols were...   05/20/07 11:02 PM
- - Hosank   yes, may gengis khan pray down on you   05/21/07 02:42 PM


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