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post 11/20/07 04:04 AM
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QUOTE(Hosank @ 11/20/07 01:53 AM) [snapback]117547[/snapback]
well, german, dutch and english sound the same.

danish and sweedish sound the same, portugese, spanish, catalan and italian sounds the same.
in other words, according to you, saying 'azeris and uzbeks both speak turkish' is like saying 'germans and ukranians both speak european'.



No, I thought what I wrote was simple enough but.. We all speak the same language, the alphabets are different becouse of the Russian rule.. And we are as you put it " Turkic" and according to most of the Turks Turan. So, while English and German may sound the same they are not dialects of the same language. In our case it is dialects of the same language.

I hope I made myself clear.
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post 11/27/07 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(Hosank @ 11/19/07 07:53 PM) [snapback]117547[/snapback]
well, german, dutch and english sound the same.

Well your categorization is a little bit messy. if you know any Dutch around you, you 'd see that pronounciation is not related to any other.
On the other hand, Dutch is both affected by Nordic and Germanic languages ,but that is okay.


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danish and sweedish sound the same

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Swedish and Norwegian can deal, but a Swede and Dane can't. In order a Swede understand what a Dane say is to listen to his words carefully .Because , even more words are different in Swedish and Dane.

Eftersom (Swedish) : Fordi (Danish) : Because (English)

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portugese, spanish, catalan and italian sounds the same.
in other words, according to you, saying 'azeris and uzbeks both speak turkish' is like saying 'germans and ukranians both speak european'.
Kazakh, Tatar,Uzbek, Kyrgyz ,Nogai ,Turcomen,Azerbaidjani Turks ...etc are ALL TURKS with different dialects . Look , we can differ Turks into two ;

- Oghuz [ Turks, Azerbaidjani Turks, Uzbegs(oghuz-begs) , Turcomen, Uighurs ...etc]
- Kypchagh [Kyrgyz , Kazakh, Tatar , Cuwash , Pecheneg, Qaraqalpagh ...etc ]

Those two had different dialects differenciated in time because of some cultural interactions.

Lets say " HAPPY NEW YEAR " in All Turkish dialects

-Yeni yılınız kutlu olsun (Türkiye Türkçesi)

-Yeni iliniz mübarek olsun(Azerbaycan Türkçesi)

-Canga cılıngız kuttı bolsın veya Canacılınız ben (Kazak Türkçesi)

-Cangı cılıngız kuttu bolsun(Kırgız Türkçesi)

-Yengi yılıngız mübarek bolsun(Özbek Türkçesi)

- Teze yılınızı gutlayaarın(Türkmen Türkçesi).

- Yengi yılıngızğa mübarek bolsun(Yeni Uygur Türkçesi).

- Canga cılıngız kuttı bolsın(Karakalpak Türkçesi).

- Sezne yangı yıl belen tebrik item(Tatar Türkçesi)

- Yanı ılınız kaırlı (mubarek) olsun(Kırım Tatar Türkçesi).

- Hezze yangı yıl menen kotlayım(Başkırt Türkçesi).

- Cangngı cılığıznı alğışlayma(Karaçay - Malkar Türkçesi).

- Yana yılınız men (Nogay Türkçesi).

- Yangı yılıgız kutlu bolsun(Kumuk Türkçesi).

- Yeni yılınızı kutlerim (Gagauz Türkçesi).

- Sizni yanhı yıl bıla kutleymın(Karay / Karaim Türkçesi).

- Naa çılnang alğıstapçam şirerni(Hakas Türkçesi).

- Caa çıl - bile bayır çedirip or men(Tuva Türkçesi)

- Slerdi cangı cılla utkup turum!(Altay Türkçesi).

- Naa çıl çakşı polzun (Şor Türkçesi).

- Ehigini şanga cılınan eğerdeliibin(Saha / Yakut Türkçesi).

- Sene sul yaçepe salamlatap(Çuvaş Türkçesi).




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post 11/28/07 05:38 AM
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THANKS MORDOTH THIS VERY INTERESTING icon_smile.gif

MORDOTH YOU KNOW WHO IM CRIMEAN KARAY, I READ WHO IN IRAN HAVE TURK TRIBE WHO HIS NAME ALSO KARAY . WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THEY ?

TESEKUR KARDESIM
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Thanks Mordoth, great post.
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