Turkish Citizen Killed In Yerevan!, SHOCKED!!! Big Racism in Armenia! Options

[prot9999]

Turkish citizen killed in Yerevan

A citizen of Turkey has been killed in Yerevan.

The press service of the police reports that his body was found at the central bus station on June 17. The police found out that it was Turkish citizen Ceki Ademi Potazoglu who was shot down the same day 10:00 PM. A 16 mm bullet was found on the scene. The investigation is underway.

Source : http://www.arminfo.info/index.php?show=arc...174000_eng_2411

SHOCKED!!! I don't say anythink, totally racism and fanatism in Armenia ... Armenia still want opening borders? After today, i think will never happening this. Armenian did killed Azeri Turks in Khodjali like this, was raped 5 years old childrens, was killed innocent childrens and womans... Today another Turkish citizen killed by same fanatic Armenian...

Real face of the Armenia and Armenian terorist goverment...

[Hosank]

lol, this is how they did it in khojaly? killing all those so called 400 people in a bus station?

lol, prot, you are such a racist animal, cleaaaaarly if a turkish citizen was killed in armenia, it is a hate crime right? just because he is turkish. come on, grow up, put your brain in your head.

this was obviously a mafia killing, ovbiously this citizen of turkey was involved in illegal business, has nothing to do with race, clearly you are the only racist here.

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lol, this is how they did it in khojaly? killing all those so called 400 people in a bus station?

lol, prot, you are such a racist animal, cleaaaaarly if a turkish citizen was killed in armenia, it is a hate crime right? just because he is turkish. come on, grow up, put your brain in your head.

this was obviously a mafia killing, ovbiously this citizen of turkey was involved in illegal business, has nothing to do with race, clearly you are the only racist here.

Other than your lovely remarks about Prot ( sarcams intended if you can't get " the essence" of the sentence ), I thought all accused people are not guilty untill they are proved to be quilty.

And you Mr. a person that will become a lawyer ( I am starting to believe this is a terrible choice of carrer for you, honestly ) should know this already. It is funny how you came to conclusions that he was in illegal business and it was a mob crime.... Unless you have sources about the event, you should avoid making such "fact like " comments.


And clearly he is not the only racist here ( I admit he is close to the extreme right ) IrlandaHay surpasses his wildest dreams in racism....

[Hosank]

lol, clearly you as well did not understand the 'essence' of my post.

i did not say that the turk was a mafioso, and you are right in saying that the acused is not guilty till proven so, and if you have not notice, I ACCUSED NO ONE, i only suggested that such a murder, in that style (pistol shot in the back, and body hidden in a bus stop) is something that resembles armenian mafiosos, do you have any proof against it?
you see, in yerevan, they have groups, known as axperutiuns, (brotherhoods) that exerce some sort of business control over certain parts of yerevan, they are not necessarely illegal, because their activities range from a panoply of legal to illegal. do you get it? as in, some of them are just business owners, that just buy off all the businesses on a street or something, others really act like mafias, and the problem is that many of these groups don't have to do illegal business, because often times, they have ties to government MPs, so, they could get 'legal recognition' of their business ventures. in armenian slang they call it "prikhod dal" that is the exstent of corruption in armenia. of course, the government is battling this, now that they have higher funds and so on, but it is hard, because some of these people have become oligarchs, obviously this problem is much less focused then it would be in other soviet republics, because armenia is so small, and the culture is different.

so what i am suggesting is that maybe this turk got involved with some of these people, or even got on the bad side of one of these barely legal groups you know?

i totally agree that it is sad, and this sort of activity should be severely punished.

[Mordoth]

Hosank recently said me that, "you could hang around in Yerevan(or any other regions of armenia) "
If this kind of a vigilante is to be faced , no thanks .
This is the level of tolerance

Somehow, Hosank is defending armenia,however he still does not know simple nature of his nation (!) ( despite he is a total irish- if your pa is Ire , you are already irish ,no matter to which your nation your ma belonged to )

It will take time for you, teens , to recognize the name of TURKs . It is not something to be clarified by perfect (!) anti-Turkish and anti-Muslim,Canadian education system and hearsay tellings.

[Hosank]

actually, i said you could easily go to armenia, and that is true, i mean, there are azeris still living in armenia, how come we don't hear about them being shot in a bus stop because they are azeri?

you know mordy, some times, there are armenians who are shot like that, so why don't you go say armenians are racist against themselves? because that would make no sense right? same here, you are once again showing that it is infact you who are the racist because you see the death of a turk in armenia as a racist crime.
as i wrote again before, he, as most armenians who get killed in that manour, are signature victims of the mob, as in your great turk was probably involved with them.

now let me ask you a question, say you are of, i donno, of an algerian father, but grow up in say pakistan your whole life, never been to algeria, and doesn't speak a word of arabic and so on, are you still an algerian?
in the same way, i have never been to ireland, and have spent half my life in armenia, and both ways i know more about armenian mentality than you ever would.

[Mordoth]

I won't reply your quote ,if you say so , the evidence is a product of mob.



- IF your father is Algerian , you are by-birth Algerian. For Example, many irish are grown in Canada and they call themselves Canadian ,however they also indicates their heritage. Practically ,you are Irish , not Armenian.

I think you do not know about something about Armenian nature, i've proofs of some of your mummy's fellows' nature on youtube . Never tell me about their nature because we still struggle with Syrian Armenian Dashnags .

[Chaldean]

Armenians don't get harrassed and killed in Turkey today?

[Hosank]

lol, clearly you don't know very much about armenian culture yourself, because there are almost no dashnaks left in syria, they were all executed by the baathists some 30 years ago, most dashnaks in 'the old diaspora' remain in lebanon.

meanwhile, in canada there are alot of canadians of irish origin who claim to be irish, but know very little about the culture, the only irish thing they do is go to mcgibbins pub in montreal for st-patricks day, now if you say that's what makes you part of a culture, i beg to differ..

it was mafia, and you have nothing to add. you right away make racist remarks, just because the dead was of turkish citizenship (that doesn't even mean he was a turk)...keep something in mind turk, only in turkey do you kill people because of their ethnicity, not in armenia.

for instance, in turkey, native armenians get shot for suggesting there was an armenian genocide (hrant dink. r.i.p.) now THAT, is a racist crime.

[HayArsen]

lol, clearly you don't know very much about armenian culture yourself, because there are almost no dashnaks left in syria, they were all executed by the baathists some 30 years ago, most dashnaks in 'the old diaspora' remain in lebanon.

meanwhile, in canada there are alot of canadians of irish origin who claim to be irish, but know very little about the culture, the only irish thing they do is go to mcgibbins pub in montreal for st-patricks day, now if you say that's what makes you part of a culture, i beg to differ..

it was mafia, and you have nothing to add. you right away make racist remarks, just because the dead was of turkish citizenship (that doesn't even mean he was a turk)...keep something in mind turk, only in turkey do you kill people because of their ethnicity, not in armenia.

for instance, in turkey, native armenians get shot for suggesting there was an armenian genocide (hrant dink. r.i.p.) now THAT, is a racist crime.

But how dare an infidel like Hrant Dink, say something that the superior grey wolverines did not like? And how dare you argue with mordoth? He has a Ph.D in turkism, and therefore is better than all of us.

[Hosank]

you mean, phd in humanity, because, turks are the only humans, all the rest of us are subhumans..

hey, see mordoth, we armenians are not that dumb..we are learning..

[irlandahay]

and have spent half my life in armenia,

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raffi t'est allé 3 fois, c'est pas la moitier quand meme... :s

[Hosank]

irenk kiden vor?

[irlandahay]

irenk kiden vor?

hahaha!

[HayArsen]

hahaha!

bayc inke chist e dra masin

[Hosank]

lol

[Mordoth]

But how dare an infidel like Hrant Dink, say something that the superior grey wolverines did not like? And how dare you argue with mordoth? He has a Ph.D in turkism, and therefore is better than all of us.

LoL, i never confirmed murdering of one innocent person for his (despite they were baseless and stupid ) thoughts and sayings .

Not " turkism " , you 'll write Turkism . With Capital " T " .

And also i did not claim Armenians are sub-humans, but they are wanna-be subhumans , i think

[HayArsen]

LoL, i never confirmed murdering of one innocent person for his (despite they were baseless and stupid ) thoughts and sayings .

Not " turkism " , you 'll write Turkism . With Capital " T " .

And also i did not claim Armenians are sub-humans, but they are wanna-be subhumans , i think

explain why should I write turkism with capital T. turksim is a stupid racist idea. Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and others don't even care about uniting with you

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it was mafia, and you have nothing to add. you right away make racist remarks, just because the dead was of turkish citizenship (that doesn't even mean he was a turk)...keep something in mind turk, only in turkey do you kill people because of their ethnicity, not in armenia.

So how do you explain the civilians found dead of all ages shot in the back while trying to escape from ermeni milita, in arktash ??

Were they killed becouse of a possible threat, and what threat can a 5 year old be ?

You seem to forget too quickly...

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explain why should I write turkism with capital T. turksim is a stupid racist idea. Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan and others don't even care about uniting with you

you don't have to use any capital letter, as ı don't have to use capital e for ermeni or have to call Mt. Agri any other name. See this is internet, we are all free in here

As a side note, you couldn't be more wrong about KAzakhstan, I have been there a lot of times, business related, and I know for fact that you are wrong. We are brothers and sisters after all..

[Hosank]

And also i did not claim Armenians are sub-humans, but they are wanna-be subhumans , i think icon_biggrin.gif

looll...you really want to bet on that mordy?

and meanwhile, i will write 'turkism' like this: msikrut, as arrow said, we are free..

lol, you still believe the lies of the azeri media, about xojalu...which, btw, you seem to be the one to forget so soon, because in 1993, the azeri opposition had infact accused the government of azerbaijan for having commited the attrocities, not the armenians lol...this accusing armenians of genocide is a relatively new phenominon btw...10 years ago, there was never any doubt in anyone's mind, including the azeris that it was an internal azeri thing, nothing to do with armenians..

"The first casualty when war comes is truth." These words uttered by a US senator following World War I might be also applied to the Karabakh war and, in particular, to Khojaly. What really happened in the second-largest Azerbaijani settlement in Nagorno Karabakh, Khojaly, and the adjacent territories on February 25-26, 1992 when the civilian population fled to Aghdam through the corridor provided by the Karabakh forces remains one of the most debatable and unclarified issues of the Karabakh war. At least two things are clear – the Karabakh forces left a corridor, and the civilian population suffered and a tragedy occurred.

When in 1994 Russian journalist Andrey Karaulov, the host of the TV program The Momemt of Truth asked then-Chairman of the State Defence Committee of Nagorno Karabakh Robert Kocharyan about the Khojaly tragedy, he responded, “I would put next to this tragedy a series of other tragedies that would perhaps surpass the Khojaly tragedy in scale. These are the Sumgait and the Baku massacres, the depopulation of 28 Armenian villages, and the tragedy of the village of Maragha.”

“But, apparently, Khojaly requires a separate explanation. That is to say, this was the village that found itself in the thick of military operations. As I see it, the warring parties should be very careful in using human settlements for military purposes and this is exactly what had happened in Khojaly. There were four GRAD flamethrowers stationed inside the village which were systematically firing upon Stepanakert. And when a place turns into a position for firing GRAD missiles then, naturally, it draws enemy fire. For that reason a situation emerged in Khojaly where heavy battles for the settlement took place and, the fact was, during these battles the civilian population suffered,” Kocharyan said.

When British journalist Thomas de Vaal asked Serge Sargsyan to tell him about the seizure of Khojaly the Armenian minister of defense responded, “We prefer not to talk about that out loud.” As for the number of losses, Sargsyan insisted that many things had been exaggerated and the retreating Azerbaijanis had manifested strong military resistance. “But I think that the principal issue was completely different. Before Khojaly, Azerbaijanis thought that they could trifle with us; they thought Armenians were incapable of raising a hand against a civilian population. We were able to break this stereotype. This is what happened. And also we must take into consideration that among these men there were those who had escaped from the Baku and the Sumgait massacres,” Sargsyan said.


Samvel Babayan, who was at the center of the events, has a completely different interpretation. “During the Khojaly operation I was in charge of holding the Aghdam front and providing for a secure corridor along the river current so that the civilians could exit, and I accomplished that mission. The corridor was provided, but a strange thing happened. We were attacked from the direction of Aghdam. The population was supposed to pass through our positions and enter Aghdam. Among the Azerbaijani forces in Aghdam, the impression emerged that the Armenians were making a sally. The violence was committed by the Azerbaijani forces, whether wittingly or not, I don't know. We did not attempt at the destruction of the population. Generally, during the war we had always allowed the civilian population to leave. We were in a position to block the roads and annihilate 60,000 people in Kelbajar, but we purposefully postponed military operations and provided free passage. It was the same road that we had taken under our control in one stroke in 1994.”

here, for the millionth time, if you want more proof just ask..but at least take this into consideration
tell you what, if you want more, i will make a special page (yet again) in the azeri section for you to read, we can comment on khojalu there ok?

[Mordoth]

There are proofs who are wandering all around , unlike fatty and clumsy US senateurs

I 've a friend next to me now ,and he is telling that " I ' ve lost my 9 relatives in Turkish - Russian conflict (not armenian) and still there are 2 million refugees exiled from their lands. And innocent immigrants still lives in abandoned train vagons " .

That's it , many US senateur , or some journalists may write whatever they want about the lands where they don't even know . LoL

[Hosank]

ok, mordoth, i have no idea what you are saying just now

[HayArsen]

Just out of curiosity, what do you do for a living Mordoth?

[Mordoth]

Tell me what you did not understand then.
Or learn how to read / speak / spell in English , Hossy

What do you mean , Haiarsen ?

[Hosank]

lol, i think that greatly applies to youthere, for if you had written, spelled, or spoken english in that last post, it would have been generally understood, but what you wrote is not comprehensable english

[intergalacticman]

come on guys relax, lets dance *blasts some Daft Punk*.

no seriously. in hosank's desperate attempt to deflect prot's post he mistakenly states that it was a mafia killing. how did you know that hosank, were you there? The investigation has not even completed yet. although i personally think that it was not racism, there are several individuals whom are embittered against the turks for various reasons, most notably the armenian genocide of 1915 which continued into the 1920's. But anyways i think its too early to determine the motive as racism prot.

btw i LOVE it when prot speaks english.

[Hosank]

first, it was not a desperate attempt at all, second i never stated definitively that it was a mafia hit, i simply aknowledged that due to the circomstances depicted in the article provided by prot, it looks to me that this murder is alot closer to a mafia, or axperutiun, or semi-legal business murder, than a racist crime.
no, i was not present during the murder (obviously),however, having spent time in the country, surrounded by the mentality, i would certainly not rule out that possibility, second, since the country has whitnessed murders in the same fascion of other armenians, which turned out to be mafia hits, (by mafia, i am using a much broader term, meaning anything stepping on lucrative business), so we could logically deduce, seeing as his murder is somewhat the signature of these axperutiuns, that there is a good chance that this turk was doing some, shall we say, shaky business in armenia.

if you think that no turk visits armenia, you would be quite wrong, turkish businessmen, do come, and do invest, and some times come into contact with the local oligarchs.

galactic, do you know what prikhod is?

also, i doubt that even the most extreme of ultranationalists would commit an act so crude as to simply murder a random turk, and dumb his body into a busstation with cause of avenging the armenian genocide, to be honest, i must state (possibly to the dismay of many dashnak followers who right here, and often have not yet visited the fatherland) that most people in yerevan care less about turks than having enough cash to make ends meet for the month, so i don't see how killing a turk would satisfy that demand.

is that a better explanation of my point of view?

[HayArsen]

Tell me what you did not understand then.
Or learn how to read / speak / spell in English , Hossy

What do you mean , Haiarsen ?

Do you work? Are you a student?

[Hosank]

lol, he is studying turkology or something like that,
and as we can se from the result, it must be one of the faculties that suffered from recent budget cuts.

[veritas]

one guy gets killed and it is .....and i quote......."totally racism and fanatism in Armenia".

You are a waste of perfectly good carbon.

can you at least assume ( rightly ) that everyone on the planet is smarter than you and refrain from insulting the intelligence of people with brains.

Oh i am sorry i did not speak in the proper manner for you.

Oh poor prots......brains needs milks, go drinks milks for brains. then can how make good argue.

turks is not guilties, turks never hated any peeples, poor one turk against all armeni and they kill his face with guns. What turk do for armeni hated? nothings.

one turkey killeds means alla armeni is evils for reals?*

hows that?

[Hosank]

hm i donno, i think i was able to comprehend some of it, you should try harder.

[irlandahay]

one guy gets killed and it is .....and i quote......."totally racism and fanatism in Armenia".

You are a waste of perfectly good carbon.

can you at least assume ( rightly ) that everyone on the planet is smarter than you and refrain from insulting the intelligence of people with brains.

Oh i am sorry i did not speak in the proper manner for you.

Oh poor prots......brains needs milks, go drinks milks for brains. then can how make good argue.

turks is not guilties, turks never hated any peeples, poor one turk against all armeni and they kill his face with guns. What turk do for armeni hated? nothings.

one turkey killeds means alla armeni is evils for reals?*

hows that?

kill his face with guns...had a good chucle on that one. hahaha

welcome back mate
hows the land down under?

[veritas]

its aways god down here mate

its good to be back, i have had no internet connection for weeks and it has been killing me

hope it all goes well for you my friend.

[Defensor Ursa]

And how dare you argue with mordoth? He has a Ph.D in turkism, and therefore is better than all of us.

Is that what they're handing out to wannabe-genocidists??

[Hosank]

you also can take a major in ataturkist militarism, and a minor in hatred for christian minorities.

[irlandahay]

There are proofs who are wandering all around , unlike fatty and clumsy US senateurs

I 've a friend next to me now ,and he is telling that " I ' ve lost my 9 relatives in Turkish - Russian conflict (not armenian) and still there are 2 million refugees exiled from their lands. And innocent immigrants still lives in abandoned train vagons " .

That's it , many US senateur , or some journalists may write whatever they want about the lands where they don't even know . LoL

So now you have to figure it out.

We have provided proof that the events in khojali are exaggerated, and now you say it was the turkish russian conflict. If it was a russian conflict than go tell your sad khojaly story to them

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you also can take a major in ataturkist militarism, and a minor in hatred for christian minorities.

Is that what they are handing out to Turkofobics ?

[Hosank]

Is that what they are handing out to Turkofobics ?

i suggest you re-read your 'come back' and see how it is neither grammatically, or sensefully correct.

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i suggest you re-read your 'come back' and see how it is neither grammatically, or sensefully correct.

Oh it was not supposed to anyways, grammatically..

[Kurd-BOSS]

To all the Turks condemning this: Try this murder multiplied by 1.500.000 and on the Armenian side....

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To all the Turks condemning this: Try this murder multiplied by 1.500.000 and on the Armenian side....

Oh I thought ermeni also blame kurds for being the killers. nice try buddy , try harder and it might just work

[Kurd-BOSS]

Oh I thought ermeni also blame kurds for being the killers. nice try buddy , try harder and it might just work

Look at Germany...theyy admit their past. But now Jews love Germany even more than Israel because Germany has showed to be an example of multicultural society, peace, stability, love.
Germany is the 3rd largest economy of the world...
Germany has a lot of tourists...
Germany has millions of foreigners

But what has Turkey done to civilization? Murder, terror, suppression, rape, genocides, invasions, torture prisons,

[irlandahay]

Look at Germany...theyy admit their past. But now Jews love Germany even more than Israel because Germany has showed to be an example of multicultural society, peace, stability, love.
Germany is the 3rd largest economy of the world...
Germany has a lot of tourists...
Germany has millions of foreigners

But what has Turkey done to civilization? Murder, terror, suppression, rape, genocides, invasions, torture prisons,

Ignore him mate, he knows you are right and thats what bothers him.

[irlandahay]

Oh I thought ermeni also blame kurds for being the killers. nice try buddy , try harder and it might just work

Yup, Kurds did take part in it, but in case you dont follow the genocide events, the kurdish president of iraq has apologized on behalf of the kurdish people, and we have made our peace with them.

I guess kurds have proven to be more man than turks

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Yup, Kurds did take part in it, but in case you dont follow the genocide events, the kurdish president of iraq has apologized on behalf of the kurdish people, and we have made our peace with them.

I guess kurds have proven to be more man than turks

Well I respect your guessings and thank you for supporting me.

[Hosank]

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ok, this is getting petty and pointless, so lets put some wind on the fire...

VAN IS ARMENIAAAAAA

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ok, this is getting petty and pointless, so lets put some wind on the fire...

VAN IS ARMENIAAAAAA

Lol, in your sweetest dreams baby

[Hosank]

in my dreams yes. but also in international.
here is a fun fact. did you know that the united states, as well as 16 other countries, including canada, do not officially recognise the republic of turkey as a state?,...

when i finish my legal research on it i will elaborate on it.

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in my dreams yes. but also in international.
here is a fun fact. did you know that the united states, as well as 16 other countries, including canada, do not officially recognise the republic of turkey as a state?,...

when i finish my legal research on it i will elaborate on it.

Wow, that is a great shock becouse I am living in canada and somehow came here with a Turkish passaport.. Now how did I manage that