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Jaff Sassani
post 11/26/07 09:12 AM
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How can we build modern Kurdistan?

Kurdistan is the home of Kurd, and none Kurd the blood are mixed from so many different groups because our homelands unfortunately are located in very strategical location on the Middle East and the Earth.

We the people suffered through millennium, we Kurd the resident of the land been subjugated by other nationalities in the past and now. To survive for over thousand of years are amazing by it self.

Our people seen and recorded in our genetic many empires come and go after the collapse of our own empire, the Medes Empire. Since Dayukku the leader of the Medes Empire no one really has been capable to unite our people.

The Sassanian Empire started in the region of our Aryan brother and sister of Persia soon after the great sprit Shah of all Aryan Shah’s the beloved son of the Arian people in the Middle East, the Ardashir Babakan who united all our people to one country under the sun among other nation on the earth like Japan, China, Roman-Europe and others.

The Sassanian become Kurdish speaker because of the Empires location among the Aryan people of Kurdistan, this is the fact so who ever want to claim Sassanian Empire to their local area or their branch of Aryan nation are wrong. The Sassanian Empire was the protector of the Zoroastrians Religion and really was for all Aryan people without any discrimination. The Empire served the Aryan people from India to Europe and from east to Turk speaker nomads.

Today will be impossible to unit such large area under one country because of the Arab influence in our homeland and the destruction of our civilization. We the people of the Sassanian origin even we are hopeless and abused by other Aryan people but we believe in the economic union are the best way to continue with the struggle to get united and liberate our people from Arab domination and superiority, by study the Islamic religion and understand the message of the God based on the modern knowledge so our people won’t be slave of rituals and practice, because we human are changeable.

The Islamic Religion split between Sunni and Shiite Islam because of the power struggle and differences between the second Islamic Khalifa Omar Bin Khtab known as the most violent ruler against the Aryan people who later become known as the founder of the Sunni Islam and the fourth Islamic Khalifa Ali Bin Abe Talib Al-Qweareyyshi the cozen and the son in law of the Prophet Mohammed who later become the founder of the Shiite Islam.

Today we Aryan people divided between the two sect of Islam above most of our people worship the Arab personality instead of God, so the mission for our educated people are to understand Islam and worship the creator of universe instead of dead Arab leaders.

To build modern Kurdistan we need to get united with all Aryan people instead of separations, we fully understand the other branches of Aryan nation like (Persian, Afghani, Pakistani and other) who has the power today they are not in the position to accept the Kurd and other branches of the powerless Aryan people as partner, they just want them to be assimilated to their branch of language and thinking.

The Kurd needs to think differently than other branches of the Aryan nation like (Persian, Afghani, Pakistani and other) who has the power today. The Kurd need to get united with the powerless branches of the Aryan people today, like (Galini from Rasht and Mazandaran, Pashtoon people in Pakistan, , Balochie people of Pakistan and Iran and others)as partner and then the powerful Aryan will come around to get united as one economic Union with every branches has their own country like European people, by accepting each other will be the source of strength not weakness.
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KHAZARI
post 12/10/07 12:32 PM
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QUOTE(Udi John @ 12/07/07 03:28 PM) [snapback]118203[/snapback]
Hi Concheet,

Thanks--you flatter me, my friend! I have had a lot of time to think that one through. Those thoughts had been forming in my mind and bothering for the last 3 years or so, since the radio broadcast of the debate, and I needed to get it off my chest.

Another topic I've been thinking about lately: Israeli/Jewish - Armenian and Israeli/Jewish - Kurdish politics are very complicated. The complications are many and varied...

Pro-Armenian factors:
-Jews and Armenians as fellow "dispora" peoples
-Jews and Armenians as fellow non-Muslim minorities in the Near East
-Social and phenotypical similarities (I've been to the church fair at St. Vartan's many times and am always amazed at how much my friend's aunts and uncles remind me of my own relatives!)
-Jews and Armenians as fellow victims of genocide
-Jews and Armenians as fellow victims of Soviet repression
-Rise of Turkish Islamism cooling Israel-Turkey ties (?)

Anti-Armenian factors:
-Armenian Genocide often raised as political argument against uniqueness of Holocaust as argument against Zionism (not necessarily by Armenians)
-Armenian collaboration with Nazis during WWII (though, to be fair, this was anti-Soviet more than anti-Jewish, and was on a much smaller scale than in Eastern Europe and the Balkans; this issue may well be grossly exaggerated by pro-Turkish sources)
-Armenian/Jewish competition for living space in Old City of Jerusalem (& Israeli government policy vis a vis non-Jews)
-Israeli/Jewish political ties to Turkey as state with ties to Israel
-Israeli/Jewish emotional ties to Turkey as nation which has been "good to the Jews," and still has a substantial Jewish community

Pro-Kurdish Factors:
-Shared antipathy to Iraqi and Syrian Baathist states and Iranian Islamic Republic
-Jews and Kurds as fellow non-Arab minorities
-Sense of Jews being well-treated and well-integrated into Kurdish society (especially compared to Arab societies)
-Strong identification by Kurdish-Jewish Israelis as "Kurds" (Izik Kallah titled his early '90s CD, "Ana Kurdi"-"I am Kurdish")
-History of military collaboration between Israel and Iraqi Kurds
-Prevalence of moderate Islam in Kurdistan

Anti-Kurdish Factors:
-Israeli/Jewish political & emotional ties to Turkey (same as above)
-PKK history of Marxist ideology (seems to be been de-emphasized in favor of ethno-nationalism lately?)
-Existence of military Islamist groups in Kurdistan (e.g., Ansar Al-Islam)
-History of PKK/PLO ties (alleged?)

I've probably missed some. I should clarify that I am speaking mostly of perceptions, which may or may not be based on facts.

Peace,
John




YOU FORGOT ANOTHER TIES BETWEEN TURKS AND JEWS MY FRIEND THE KHAZAR EMPIRE WHO THEIR KING BULAN CONVER TO JUDAISM IN THE 8 CENTURY.I MYSELF ARE THEIR DESCENDANT AND I LIVE IN ISRAEL. WE ARE ETHNIC TURKS AND KEEP JEWISH RELIGION.AND PROUD IN OUR ANCESTORS. icon_smile.gif
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post 12/11/07 02:33 AM
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QUOTE(KHAZARI @ 12/10/07 09:32 PM) [snapback]118274[/snapback]
YOU FORGOT ANOTHER TIES BETWEEN TURKS AND JEWS MY FRIEND THE KHAZAR EMPIRE WHO THEIR KING BULAN CONVER TO JUDAISM IN THE 8 CENTURY.I MYSELF ARE THEIR DESCENDANT AND I LIVE IN ISRAEL. WE ARE ETHNIC TURKS AND KEEP JEWISH RELIGION.AND PROUD IN OUR ANCESTORS. icon_smile.gif


Cool didnt know that, I saw sometimes a map around todays Kazakhstan, showing a jewish star in it and I asked myself whats that..well now I do know

thanks for the info.
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- Jaff Sassani   How Can We Build Modern Kurdistan?   11/26/07 09:12 AM
- - Udi John   This is an Israel/Palestine forum. MEIC has a Kur...   11/26/07 03:54 PM
|- - Jaff Sassani   Thank you for your comment, we are all connected t...   11/26/07 04:41 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Jaff Sassani @ 11/26/07 10:41 PM) 1...   11/26/07 08:28 PM
|- - Jaff Sassani   This is just for people living in those countries....   11/26/07 08:45 PM
- - KHAZARI   BTW SASSANI I DONT THINK WHO THIS GOOD IDEA TALK ...   11/27/07 02:12 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(KHAZARI @ 11/27/07 08:12 PM) 117770...   11/27/07 04:36 PM
- - KHAZARI   LOOK IRLANDAHAY..... YOU KNOW WHO I NOT FANATIC N...   11/28/07 01:29 AM
|- - arrow   QUOTE(KHAZARI @ 11/28/07 09:29 AM) 117792...   11/28/07 06:31 AM
- - Udi John   Hello/Shalom/Salaam/Shlama/Merhaba/Parev/Rozhbash,...   11/28/07 02:15 PM
|- - concheet   QUOTE(Udi John @ 11/28/07 01:15 PM) 11781...   12/06/07 08:17 PM
- - KHAZARI   מאיפה א...   11/28/07 03:30 PM
- - KHAZARI   תראה ג'ו...   11/28/07 03:49 PM
- - Udi John   Shalom Khazari, I am American. My Hebrew is kita...   11/29/07 01:27 PM
- - KHAZARI   SHALOM JON KOL TUV TO YOO TO   11/29/07 02:25 PM
- - concheet   There is a rule about the forum and speaking Engli...   12/06/07 08:15 PM
- - Udi John   Hi Concheet, Thanks--you flatter me, my friend...   12/07/07 03:28 PM
|- - Danno   QUOTE(Udi John @ 12/07/07 04:28 PM) 11820...   12/08/07 10:39 PM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Danno @ 12/09/07 07:39 AM) 118242al...   12/09/07 10:51 AM
- - Dîrî   Pro-Kurdish factors: - Historic ties between the ...   12/07/07 05:40 PM
|- - Udi John   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 12/07/07 06:40 PM) 118213Not...   12/07/07 06:49 PM
||- - Jaff Sassani   Hi John We like to answering your question regard...   12/07/07 09:25 PM
||- - Dîrî   QUOTE(Udi John @ 12/07/07 07:49 PM) 11821...   12/08/07 08:17 AM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 12/08/07 02:40 AM) 118213Pro...   12/08/07 06:18 AM
- - Dîrî   Do you want to read some nice nationalist speech o...   12/08/07 08:11 AM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 12/08/07 05:11 PM) 118232Do ...   12/08/07 08:26 AM
- - Udi John   Shlama Rumtaya, I suspect the two main reasons th...   12/10/07 12:20 AM
|- - Rumtaya   Shalom, QUOTE1) Either they have never heard of ...   12/10/07 05:28 AM
|- - Udi John   QUOTE(KHAZARI @ 12/10/07 01:32 PM) 118274...   12/11/07 12:29 PM
- - KHAZARI   QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 12/11/07 02:33 AM) 118291...   12/11/07 04:35 AM
- - KHAZARI   QUOTE(Udi John @ 12/11/07 12:29 PM) 11830...   12/12/07 01:05 PM
|- - Udi John   QUOTE(KHAZARI @ 12/12/07 02:05 PM) 118317...   12/14/07 11:43 AM
- - KHAZARI   WELL MY FRIEND ACTUALLY THE KARAITES ARE DIVISED T...   12/14/07 12:41 PM
- - Udi John   Shabbat Shalom, Khazari -JE   12/14/07 01:39 PM
- - KHAZARI   WELL MY FRIEND TURKEY AND ISRAEL HAVE GOOD RELATIO...   12/14/07 01:55 PM
|- - Jaff Sassani   Khazari The Islamic political party of Turkey is ...   12/15/07 07:19 AM
- - Dîrî   @KHAZARI Could you PLEASE cut out the CAPS? Do yo...   12/15/07 06:18 AM
- - KHAZARI   QUOTE(Jaff Sassani @ 12/15/07 07:19 AM) 1...   12/15/07 01:18 PM
- - Dîrî   @Khazari If the Turkish military does another co...   12/15/07 02:27 PM
|- - arrow   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 12/15/07 10:27 PM) 118425@Kh...   12/15/07 02:43 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(arrow @ 12/15/07 03:43 PM) 118428Yo...   12/15/07 04:39 PM
|- - arrow   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 12/16/07 12:39 AM) 118438I d...   12/16/07 08:43 AM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(arrow @ 12/16/07 09:43 AM) 1184471-...   12/16/07 08:55 AM
- - KHAZARI   yes i know who many kurds support in erdogan party...   12/15/07 03:30 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(KHAZARI @ 12/15/07 04:30 PM) 118436...   12/15/07 04:33 PM
- - KHAZARI   YES ERDOGAN BAD FOR THE TURKS...TURKIYE NEED UNFI...   12/16/07 07:09 AM
- - arrow   OK I will give you the benefit of doubt.. Please ...   12/17/07 07:51 AM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(arrow @ 12/17/07 08:51 AM) 118496OK...   12/17/07 09:29 AM
|- - arrow   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 12/17/07 05:29 PM) 118506No ...   12/17/07 12:38 PM
|- - Dîrî   QUOTE(arrow @ 12/17/07 01:38 PM) 118516We...   12/18/07 05:38 AM
|- - arrow   QUOTE(Dîrî @ 12/18/07 01:38 PM) 118540For...   12/18/07 09:54 AM
- - KHAZARI   yes mr erdogan are hyena in the past him was the g...   12/18/07 06:37 AM
|- - Jaff Sassani   Khazari The Islamic Government of Turkey will bri...   12/18/07 07:26 AM
- - KHAZARI   QUOTE(Jaff Sassani @ 12/18/07 07:26 AM) 1...   12/18/07 03:54 PM
- - Jaff Sassani   The Sassanian Kurd Defense Committee (SKDC) We wa...   12/22/07 09:51 AM


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