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Kurd-BOSS
post 11/29/07 05:28 PM
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33 years have passed since the illegal Turkish invasion and occupation of norhtern Cyprus

5000 Greek Cypriots killed by Turk army in 1974

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As a result of the invasion, approximately 5,000 Cypriots were killed and more than 1,400 Greek Cypriots, including four Americans of Cypriot descent, who still remain missing.

http://www.house.gov/apps/list/speech/fl09...s_invasion.html




Since 1974, the northern territory of the Republic of Cyprus has been occupied by the armed forces of the Turkish Republic. In the aftermath of the Turkish invasions of July 20 and August 14, 1974, over 200,000 Greek Cypriots were ethnically cleansed from their homes and had to flee as refugees to the southern part of the island, while more than 50,000 Turkish Cypriots were forced un-willingly to move in the occupied area. Over 5,000 Cypriots were killed. Eighty percent of Cypriots are of Hellenic descent, and Eighteen percent of Cypriots are of Turkish.



Thousands of Cypriots remain missing.





However, after the Turkish invasion of 1974, about 150,000 Turks from Anatolia were transferred or decided to settle in the north. This has changed the actual demographic structure of the island. Northern Cyprus now claims 265,100 inhabitants,[35] closer to 30% of the population of the island.

The Turkish government arranged an influx of settlers from Turkey, altering the demographics of the island in violation of the Geneva Convention.

40% of the island occupied, Turks dont even account for 18%



Nicosia on fire by Turkish air force




Kyrenia totally flattened by the Turks


Napalm bombs dropped on Cypriots by Turkish army


Villages occupied by the Turks




Greek Cypriots taken to Adana Camps in Turkey in 1974. Some will return alive and talk about their experience




Only Turkey recognizes pseudo-state in northern Cyprus
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It has received diplomatic recognition only from Turkey, on which it is dependent for economic, political and military support. The rest of the international community, including the United Nations and European Union, recognise the sovereignty of the Republic of Cyprus over the whole island.




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Turkish Cypriots proclaimed a separate state, the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC), under the leadership of Rauf Denktaş, on November 15, 1983. UN Security Council Resolution 541 of November 18, 1983 declared the action illegal and called for the withdrawal of Turkish troops. The Resolution also asked all member states to refrain from recognising and providing assistance to the government of the secessionist entity. The only country to recognise the TRNC is Turkey, which does not recognise the authority of the Republic of Cyprus over the whole island. Turkey refers to the government of the Republic of Cyprus as 'the Greek Cypriot administration'.



Thank you Turkey





Missing Cypriots
http://www.missing-cy.org/
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Hosank
post 01/17/08 06:16 AM
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i believe the quote was "the death of one man is a trajedy, the death of a thousand is just statistics" by joseph stalin. i am glad that you take the quotes of one of the world's most brutal mass murderers to describe the 'sad trajedy' that is the genocide of 1.5 million armenians at the hands of your grandparents. it is such a good indicator of your logic ...since...we are just a statistic that would be eliminated right?

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As far as I am concerned they tried to revolt against Ottomans and cought on the way. And I seriously don't care if they were innocent or not, if they were they were not the first nor the last to be executed / punished unjustly.

this right here, is an oxymoron, a contradiction. you are saying that they deserved death because they were plotting revolution (something that has now been proven not to be true btw), and then you are saying that you don't care that they are innocent, because they are a statistic. so you are saying, if i may paraphrase, that because in history, many others have been wrongfully accused, murdered, genocided, it is perfectly acceptable for the turkish authorities to murder the heads of the armenian intelligiencia, and begin one of the 20th centuries most horrific acts because you do not care rather or not these people were actually responsable for any uprising.
in other words...you are justifying genocide.
but you know what. the ottomans KNEW that the people in the list above, living peaceful lives in the capital of the empire were not involved in any revolutionary activity, and it is not for that reason that they killed them, they killed them because they were the leaders of the common armenians, they knew that killing them would disperce the armenian people. this is premeditated murder...on an ethnic scale.

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About the muslims in todays ermenistan.

there were muslims in armenia, but quite few relatively to the armenian population in the region, and they were the descendants of turkic raiders, persian officials that were governing the region when it was part of persia and so on. when the russians entered armenia in the 1850s, most persians left, bringing the population of muslims considerably down. there have been at least 200 000 muslims in armenia till the breakup of the soviet union,(more than christians in all of turkey) now there are only a few thousand. since most were azeris who fled because they thought the armenians would replicate for the sumgait massacres. (which we didn't actually believe it or not)

arrow, no one is snow white, but just like in law, there are ceveral degrees of criminals, do not think for a second that you are on the same level as armenians.

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They deported at least 2 million to Ottoman empire around 1850-1880 to couse trouble in the empire thus getting the upper hand in their ultimate goal " getting to the medeterranian sea ".


yes this is true...but as you see, (as you infact pointed out) this was a means of imperial expansion, part of a great game, not part of a campaign specifically targetted at muslims. but armenia is not close to the mediteranian, and displacing muslims in armenia would not benefit the russian imperium, so that is irrelevant.

you know as well as me that armenians were very influencial in constantinople's business. also keep in mind that venice and genoa ceased to exist as independant states by the early 1800s.

may i remind you that voltaire is not a historian, but a philosopher (which i do not particularily like btw). and as i mentionned before and you seem to close your mind to (because you cannot believe that there was life before the turk) armenians were ALREADY in constantinople before the ottoman invasion, and infact fought in it's army agains the muslims, and the armenians fighting for the ottomans were janissaries this is well known fact.

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Regards my brother.

brothers do not murder their brothers...
even cain asked for forgiveness to god after regretting the murder of abel
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post 01/17/08 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(Hosank @ 01/17/08 02:16 PM) [snapback]119179[/snapback]
.....you are saying that they deserved death because they were plotting revolution (something that has now been proven not to be true btw), ......



Please do not put words in my mouth , I never ever said anything like that. I said" I don't care if they were innocent or not, they were not the first nor the last ones to be punished unjustly, if they were innocent"....

If you go on like this it would turn into you arguing yourself..

And a few notes on what you posted..

-If an empire is at war, none of her residents can live in peacefull manners.
-Yeniceri are the people of Balkans, not the anatolia. They are converted to Islam. My post about Ermeni Dervis is solid fact. No debate is necessary on this. But feel free to believe whatever you like.
- Voltaire is an author / philosopher yes, and the US congress is a political party, they are neither historians, nor other nations senates... What is your point ? That historians should debate icon_eek.gif
-When Russia ethnic cleansed that area of muslims, I am sure the deportees felt sympathy to the reasons of Russia. And the 200,000 thousand muslims maybe true, but only after WW1. Before there were millions.
-I will never apoligise for a lie nor feel responsible for an historical debate.

You are my brother, we do have family disputes but reality still remains.
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- Kurd-BOSS   Turkish Invasion Of Cyprus In 1974   11/29/07 05:28 PM
- - Kurd-BOSS   Armenian school in Cyprus burned down by Turkish a...   11/29/07 05:30 PM
- - Kurd-BOSS   RE: Turkish Invasion Of Cyprus In 1974   12/02/07 11:14 AM
- - arrow   DO you have any idea what was EOKA - A and EOKA - ...   12/03/07 01:59 AM
- - Kurd-BOSS   Crimes to state by Turkey in relation to Cyprus: ...   12/03/07 07:16 AM
|- - arrow   QUOTE(Kurd-BOSS @ 12/03/07 03:16 PM)...   12/03/07 09:03 AM
|- - Kurd-BOSS   QUOTE(arrow @ 12/03/07 10:03 AM) 117998So...   12/03/07 09:28 AM
|- - arrow   QUOTE(Kurd-BOSS @ 12/03/07 05:28 PM)...   12/03/07 11:26 AM
- - Mordoth   k**d's bullsheet again. It is shown a cyprus m...   12/03/07 02:51 PM
|- - arrow   QUOTE(Mordoth @ 12/03/07 10:51 PM) 118013...   12/04/07 01:41 AM
- - Hosank   QUOTEBut futile. Cyprus is Turkish . so is ireland...   12/05/07 01:53 PM
|- - arrow   QUOTE(Hosank @ 12/05/07 09:53 PM) 118117s...   12/06/07 01:31 AM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(arrow @ 12/06/07 07:31 AM) 118135Bu...   12/06/07 06:19 PM
|- - arrow   QUOTE(irlandahay @ 12/07/07 02:19 AM) 118...   12/07/07 01:59 AM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(arrow @ 12/07/07 07:59 AM) 118179Is...   12/07/07 04:00 PM
|- - arrow   QUOTE(irlandahay @ 12/08/07 12:00 AM) 118...   12/09/07 12:12 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(arrow @ 12/09/07 06:12 PM) 118254Oh...   12/10/07 04:50 PM
- - KHAZARI   YES IRLANDAHAY YOU NEVER CAN SAY GOOD WORD ? WIT...   12/11/07 12:09 PM
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- - arrow   He is around 14-15 and in a catholic school. He is...   12/13/07 04:51 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(arrow @ 12/13/07 10:51 PM) 118352He...   12/17/07 09:07 AM
- - Mordoth   I recommend all irish guys who feel themselves as ...   12/13/07 05:19 PM
- - Hosank   lol, why don't you, mordoth, as the forum...   12/13/07 09:17 PM
|- - arrow   QUOTE(Hosank @ 12/14/07 05:17 AM) 118359l...   12/15/07 02:52 PM
- - Mordoth   Well , Turkish media, and President Rauf Denktas a...   12/15/07 09:37 PM
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- - Hosank   QUOTE. And still the reality is here , they just s...   12/16/07 09:55 PM
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- - Hosank   QUOTEWell you are in a catholic school... is that ...   12/26/07 09:05 PM
|- - arrow   QUOTE(Hosank @ 12/27/07 05:05 AM) 118787i...   12/27/07 01:39 AM
- - Hosank   QUOTEIn an underdeveloped mid east society, althou...   12/28/07 02:51 AM
- - arrow   Nice try man just not enough. You nor nobody else ...   12/28/07 10:52 AM
- - Hosank   lol arrow...it seems to me that you read my post w...   01/04/08 12:14 AM
|- - arrow   QUOTE(Hosank @ 01/04/08 08:14 AM) 118910a...   01/04/08 02:43 AM
- - Hosank   QUOTEbut tell me, why does THE CHURCH pay for the ...   01/04/08 06:31 PM
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- - Hosank   arrow, that's quite a distorted version of his...   01/08/08 09:19 PM
- - arrow   Hosank, fedayi is also used for brave people and b...   01/09/08 01:43 AM
- - Hosank   RE: Turkish Invasion Of Cyprus In 1974   01/13/08 02:39 AM
- - arrow   I know fedayi is not Turkish nor ermenian, I thoug...   01/13/08 06:29 AM
- - Hosank   lol, actually i am not putting anywords into your ...   01/17/08 02:21 PM
- - arrow   Hosank I will write story then post something abou...   01/18/08 08:40 AM
- - Hosank   i just copied the article there buddy.. and very ...   01/18/08 09:59 AM
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- - Hosank   arrow, i am thoroughly happy to learn that you hav...   01/18/08 09:11 PM
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- - Mordoth   IF US Citizens consider "the landing and peri...   02/19/08 09:02 PM


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