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Danno
post 06/02/08 11:40 AM
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AssyrianS IN ARMENIA

In his inaugural speech, President Robert Kocharian declared his intention to make Armenia a "dear home" for all ethnic minorities living within the borders of the newly independent republic. Despite the expulsion of the largest - the Azerbaijanis - at the beginning of the Karabagh conflict, three per cent of the population still consists of a variety of ethnic groups ranging from the Yezidi and the Molokans to the Jews and the Greeks.

Armenia is also home to an estimated 7,000 Assyrians who - like the Kurds - are a nation without their own state and who have experienced a history that closely mirrors that of the Armenians. Indeed, according to Pavel Tanrazov - President of the 'Assyrians of Armenia' - not only did the Assyrians adopt Christianity in the 1st Century but they were also the main disseminators of the religion in pagan Armenia and elsewhere. In the aftermath of the Russo-Persian war of 1826-28 the Russian government allowed one hundred Assyrian families to resettle in transcaucasia, and in Armenia these families settled in Dimitrov, Dvin, Arzni, Yerevan Province and other regions. Descendents of these families - and other Assyrians that joined them after fleeing persecution, massacre and genocide - are still to be found in these locations, and the community has evolved to form a vibrant component of a cultural diversity that every country requires in order to develop maturely.

However, that is not to say that problems do not exist for the community. As with other minorities in the republic - and for Armenians themselves - the period of Soviet rule and the economic problems now faced by the country today have had their effect. Like the rest of the population one key concern is in the area of education. In 1924, primary schools taught Assyrian children their own language - albeit in Latin script - but in 1936-38 repression of the Assyrian intelligentsia saw the closure of these classes and the Assyrians became a Russian-speaking people. The re-introduction of the Assyrian language into the school curriculum only came about in 1972, according to Irina Sagradova Gasparyan - President of the Assyrian Youth Association - but problems still remain with regards to an absence of teachers and textbooks.

"The situation was very serious in Armenia for so many years," explains Gasparyan. "There were no teachers and no concern with the preservation of the Assyrian language. Faced with the same financial problems as Armenian schools, the only way to protect the language was through self-preservation. For example, as a child I was sent to stay with my grandmother in her village - and only Assyrian was spoken." Indeed, in earlier years, many children were sent abroad in order to learn their mother tongue, but now classes have been established in the Pushkin school in Yerevan, and in schools in the regions. As a result, in villages such as Dimitrov with a mixed population of Assyrians and Armenians, not only do the Assyrians speak Armenian fluently, but so too do many Armenians speak Assyrian. Marriage between the two communities is also common, and at the recent Shekhane festival in Dimitrov towards the end of July both Assyrians and Armenians were in attendance. One other problem for the Assyrian community however, is the absence of an Assyrian priest in the country - priests from the Russian Orthodox Church conduct services instead. However, attempts to preserve Assyrian culture are very much alive, and the Assyrian dance group in the village even has Armenian members.

The Assyrians - like the Armenians - are an ancient nation, and despite the emigration of an estimated 3,000 from the country the Assyrian community has a great deal to offer Armenia. Not only through the continuation of centuries of coexistence, cooperation and mutual friendship, but also by offering an extra-dimension to any development of tourism to the republic. The music, culture and hospitality of the Assyrian community in the Republic of Armenia has an important role to play in the development of a truly independent, democratic and culturally diverse society as the country prepares to enter the new millennium and seeks admission into the Council of Europe.

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veritas
post 06/19/08 01:01 AM
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Man i give this site a break for a few weeks and it goes apeshit icon_smile.gif

this is the MEIC of old

I could not care less who marries who, but this ultra nationalist stance "tough armenian" is going on about is ridiculous.

The Armenian and Assyrian communities in Australia are quite close and i imagine it is very similar elsewhere.

What can possibly be wrong with this?

This what i do not understand about this division between Assyrian/Armenian/Kurdush united you can help one another all get what you want and need.

Independently you will get very little.

There is going to be some bad blood there after being neighbours for so long butthis is the strategy of Turkey. Divide and conquor is the oldest trick in the book.

Pool resources, apply political pressure together, fight as one.

Enough is enough how many enemies do you guys really need?
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post 06/19/08 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(veritas @ 06/19/08 10:01 AM) [snapback]123312[/snapback]
Man i give this site a break for a few weeks and it goes apeshit icon_smile.gif

this is the MEIC of old

I could not care less who marries who, but this ultra nationalist stance "tough armenian" is going on about is ridiculous.

The Armenian and Assyrian communities in Australia are quite close and i imagine it is very similar elsewhere.

What can possibly be wrong with this?

This what i do not understand about this division between Assyrian/Armenian/Kurdush united you can help one another all get what you want and need.

Independently you will get very little.

There is going to be some bad blood there after being neighbours for so long butthis is the strategy of Turkey. Divide and conquor is the oldest trick in the book.

Pool resources, apply political pressure together, fight as one.

Enough is enough how many enemies do you guys really need?



Assyrians are 100% worthless ally for us.

In history they never fought against turks,and even blamed the armenian soldiers that were fighting
and resisiting turks and said that if armenians did not fight turks wouldnt be angry at christians.

Now they are one of weakest nations on this planet this if they are nation anyways nowadays,
making friendship will them will mean destroying our homogenity and tolerating them in armenia
and armenian societies to suck our blood,and use our power/money/politics for their case.


Kurds are obviously different from us,racialy and culturaly and also religiously,
they were always with turks agains us,they participated in armenian genocide,
they have no strong army like us with tanks/airplanes/mass distruction bombs,but just some peasanst with klashinkov guns and terrorists that bomb tourisitic places.

In history they had never any relation with anatol,but they are banch of dravidian invaders
from zagros mountains just like gypsies.

I personaly like when they kill turkish soldiers,but i also like when turks kill kurds.



And once i heard another strange comment from an australian accusing greeks beeing similar to
lebanese ?


From where do you bring this crap ?

lebanese and Assyrians are no more related to greeks and armenians than other black christian
africans are.

Its just a god damn relgion,not race or culture.

Greeks and armenians are related to each other but Assyrians and lebanese are not related to them.

On the other hand bosnians are somehow related to greeks and chechens are somehow related to armenians even if they are muslim.


And hey thats a sign of freemassonary in your avatar picture.

GET YOUR GREASY NOSE OUT OF ARMENIAN SECTION
YOU SILLY JEWISH/FREE MASONIC RAT


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post 06/22/08 09:02 AM
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QUOTE(Tough_Armenian1488 @ 06/19/08 12:37 PM) [snapback]123329[/snapback]
Assyrians are 100% worthless ally for us.

In history they never fought against turks,and even blamed the armenian soldiers that were fighting
and resisiting turks and said that if armenians did not fight turks wouldnt be angry at christians.

Now they are one of weakest nations on this planet this if they are nation anyways nowadays,
making friendship will them will mean destroying our homogenity and tolerating them in armenia
and armenian societies to suck our blood,and use our power/money/politics for their case.
Kurds are obviously different from us,racialy and culturaly and also religiously,
they were always with turks agains us,they participated in armenian genocide,
they have no strong army like us with tanks/airplanes/mass distruction bombs,but just some peasanst with klashinkov guns and terrorists that bomb tourisitic places.

In history they had never any relation with anatol,but they are banch of dravidian invaders
from zagros mountains just like gypsies.

I personaly like when they kill turkish soldiers,but i also like when turks kill kurds.
And once i heard another strange comment from an australian accusing greeks beeing similar to
lebanese ?
From where do you bring this crap ?

lebanese and Assyrians are no more related to greeks and armenians than other black christian
africans are.

Its just a god damn relgion,not race or culture.

Greeks and armenians are related to each other but Assyrians and lebanese are not related to them.

On the other hand bosnians are somehow related to greeks and chechens are somehow related to armenians even if they are muslim.
And hey thats a sign of freemassonary in your avatar picture.

GET YOUR GREASY NOSE OUT OF ARMENIAN SECTION
YOU SILLY JEWISH/FREE MASONIC RAT



WRAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.........

Mate your ignorance and stupidity seem to know no bounds.

I feel sorry for you mate. And please tell me what is Jewish about Freemasonry? Are the thousands of Armenian Freemasons Jewish? Freemasonry accepts people of all faiths as equals....thats a step up on you.

Even talking about religion or politics in a Masonic lodge will get you in trouble for they are things that divide people, not bring them all together.

Really did an Assyrian take your lunch money and kick you in the balls or something cuz you seem really pissed for no good reason.

You really need to get laid or somthing dude.
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- Danno   Assyrians In Armenia   06/02/08 11:40 AM
- - Tough_Armenian1488   lol I knew that your gonna post this. Your just ...   06/03/08 10:03 AM
|- - Danno   QUOTE(Tough_Armenian1488 @ 06/03/08 12:03...   06/03/08 12:57 PM
|- - Tough_Armenian1488   QUOTE(Danno @ 06/03/08 09:57 PM) 122885Al...   06/03/08 01:30 PM
|- - Danno   QUOTE(Tough_Armenian1488 @ 06/03/08 03:30...   06/04/08 12:03 PM
|- - Tough_Armenian1488   QUOTE(Danno @ 06/04/08 09:03 PM) 122928Fi...   06/04/08 01:48 PM
- - Danno   Tough_Armenian...why arr u blaming the large amoun...   06/04/08 09:36 PM
|- - Tough_Armenian1488   QUOTE(Danno @ 06/05/08 06:36 AM) 122942To...   06/05/08 11:26 AM
|- - Danno   QUOTE(Tough_Armenian1488 @ 06/05/08 01:26...   06/05/08 05:22 PM
|- - Tough_Armenian1488   QUOTE(Danno @ 06/06/08 02:22 AM) 122981fi...   06/05/08 06:25 PM
- - Israelite_   QUOTE(Tough_Armenian1488 @ 06/05/08 10:55...   06/06/08 03:23 AM
|- - Danno   First of all i want to say that what u said is soo...   06/06/08 01:43 PM
|- - KHAZARI   QUOTE(Danno @ 06/06/08 01:43 PM) 123000Fi...   06/06/08 02:48 PM
||- - Danno   QUOTE(KHAZARI @ 06/06/08 04:48 PM) 123005...   06/07/08 05:12 PM
|- - Tough_Armenian1488   QUOTE(Danno @ 06/06/08 10:43 PM) 123000Ag...   06/09/08 04:02 PM
- - Israelite_   Inferior Insectmenian, There is nothing noble, no...   06/09/08 05:31 PM
- - Sanharib   @tough_arm. you little jerk, my great-grandmother...   06/10/08 02:11 AM
- - blixa   My boyfriend is Armenian. He fought long and hard ...   06/11/08 07:22 AM
|- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(blixa @ 06/11/08 03:22 PM) 123113My...   06/11/08 08:12 AM
|- - Tough_Armenian1488   QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 06/11/08 05:12 PM) 123116...   06/11/08 02:43 PM
||- - Rumtaya   QUOTE(Tough_Armenian1488 @ 06/11/08 10:43...   06/12/08 01:30 AM
||- - Tough_Armenian1488   QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 06/12/08 10:30 AM) 123148...   06/15/08 11:15 AM
|- - Tough_Armenian1488   #double post#   06/11/08 02:44 PM
- - blixa   QUOTE(Tough_Armenian1488 @ 06/12/08 06:43...   06/11/08 05:23 PM
|- - Tough_Armenian1488   QUOTE(blixa @ 06/12/08 02:23 AM) 123139We...   06/15/08 11:26 AM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Tough_Armenian1488 @ 06/15/08 05:26...   06/16/08 05:24 PM
|- - KHAZARI   QUOTE(irlandahay @ 06/16/08 05:24 PM) 123...   06/18/08 10:43 AM
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||- - Danno   QUOTE(KHAZARI @ 06/19/08 01:04 AM) 123309...   06/19/08 12:44 AM
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||- - KHAZARI   QUOTE(irlandahay @ 06/20/08 09:54 AM) 123...   06/20/08 10:03 AM
|- - Tough_Armenian1488   QUOTE(irlandahay @ 06/17/08 02:24 AM) 123...   06/19/08 10:58 AM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Tough_Armenian1488 @ 06/19/08 04:58...   06/19/08 11:21 AM
|- - Tough_Armenian1488   QUOTE(irlandahay @ 06/19/08 08:21 PM) 123...   06/19/08 11:39 AM
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|- - Tough_Armenian1488   QUOTE(irlandahay @ 06/19/08 09:06 PM) 123...   06/19/08 12:19 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Tough_Armenian1488 @ 06/19/08 06:19...   06/20/08 09:52 AM
- - blixa   QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 06/12/08 05:30 PM) 123148...   06/12/08 04:32 AM
- - Danno   LMAO this guy keeps cracking me up!!! ...   06/15/08 02:42 PM
- - blixa   QUOTE(Tough_Armenian1488 @ 06/16/08 03:26...   06/16/08 12:09 AM
|- - Tough_Armenian1488   QUOTE(blixa @ 06/16/08 09:09 AM) 123254It...   06/19/08 11:13 AM
- - Rumtaya   Tough Armenian...., I will pray for your englightm...   06/16/08 03:21 PM
|- - Tough_Armenian1488   QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 06/17/08 12:21 AM) 123263...   06/19/08 11:02 AM
- - irlandahay   Wtf is this? Tough Armenian. I understand where ...   06/16/08 05:22 PM
|- - Danno   QUOTE(irlandahay @ 06/16/08 07:22 PM) 123...   06/17/08 12:37 PM
|- - irlandahay   QUOTE(Danno @ 06/17/08 06:37 PM) 123276Th...   06/17/08 03:31 PM
- - veritas   Irlanda is right tough armo you seem to be spitti...   06/17/08 12:18 PM
|- - KHAZARI   QUOTE(veritas @ 06/19/08 01:01 AM) 123312...   06/22/08 07:31 AM
|- - veritas   QUOTE(KHAZARI @ 06/22/08 08:31 AM) 123422...   06/22/08 01:03 PM
|- - KHAZARI   QUOTE(veritas @ 06/22/08 01:03 PM) 123445...   06/22/08 01:20 PM
|- - Danno   QUOTE(KHAZARI @ 06/22/08 03:20 PM) 123446...   06/23/08 09:08 AM
|- - veritas   QUOTE(Danno @ 06/23/08 10:08 AM) 123478yo...   06/23/08 11:22 AM
|- - KHAZARI   QUOTE(veritas @ 06/23/08 11:22 AM) 123488...   06/23/08 11:31 AM
- - Tough_Armenian1488   ես դեր չ...   06/19/08 11:50 AM
- - Hosank   QUOTEI refuse to take you seriously because you ar...   06/20/08 12:04 AM
|- - Tough_Armenian1488   QUOTE(Hosank @ 06/20/08 09:04 AM) 123346a...   06/20/08 05:47 AM
|- - Danno   QUOTE(Tough_Armenian1488 @ 06/20/08 07:47...   06/20/08 05:09 PM
- - Hosank   QUOTEhttp://enationalist.com/forum/showthread.php?...   06/20/08 09:52 AM
- - Senharib   QUOTE(Tough_Armenian1488 @ 06/20/08 06:47...   06/21/08 08:39 AM
- - Hosank   QUOTEwell i know where is eastern turkistan icon_r...   06/21/08 09:11 AM
- - Sanharib   Senharib don't step into his trap, he just wan...   06/21/08 12:13 PM
- - Hosank   QUOTESenharib don't step into his trap, he jus...   06/21/08 01:47 PM
- - blixa   QUOTE(Hosank @ 06/22/08 05:47 AM) 123404?...   06/21/08 10:18 PM
- - Hosank   QUOTEI feel sorry for you mate. And please tell me...   06/22/08 12:17 PM
- - Hosank   QUOTElook what they do to Assyrians and turkmens i...   06/22/08 05:41 PM
|- - KHAZARI   QUOTE(Hosank @ 06/22/08 05:41 PM) 123463h...   06/22/08 10:47 PM
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|- - veritas   QUOTE(mv @ 06/23/08 03:16 PM) 123498WARNI...   06/23/08 10:31 PM
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|- - veritas   QUOTE(Hosank @ 06/23/08 11:05 PM) 123507y...   06/23/08 10:50 PM
- - blixa   QUOTE(veritas @ 06/24/08 02:31 PM) 123510...   06/24/08 06:58 PM
|- - Danno   QUOTE(blixa @ 06/24/08 08:58 PM) 123540Th...   06/25/08 09:20 AM
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