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Pkk, Pjak And Others Help Eliminate Kurds
Jaff Sassani
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Kurdish Political Parties Fight without a Plan
by Jaff Sassani Page 1 of 4 page(s)
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December 30, 2008 at 21:10:04
The Kurdish political organizations indirectly are responsible for the eliminations of the Kurds in Kurdistan. The PKK, BARZANI, TALABANI and others are fighting the occupiers without any plan. The Kurdish separatist movement by the Kurdish political parties for the last half centuries until now did more harm to the existence of the Kurdish people than they can be liberated from the occupier forces. The Kurds are losing more lands to its enemies every day without places to go to. There are millions of Kurdish homeless does want to go to Europe and other places on the earth without success. The lives are getting harder and harder for the Kurds because of the Turks and Arabs populations increases and their demand of more land. There are no places for Kurds in Kurdistan any more.
The Kurdish people are hopeless. They are not getting any help from international communities because Arabs and Turks are controlling the wealth of Kurds. They are spending small percentage of the Kurdish wealth on the lobbyist around the world so they can cover up the crime of the Turks and Arabs. There are saying that the “money talks”. They are buying the moral values of Journalist, former Government officials, and some time high ranking Government officials around the world so they can control the Kurdish population for ever.
Why we are saying that the Kurdish political parties are not liberators. What are the reasons for our claims? Here is some information’s for your review below.
PKK wars against Turkey and Iran
PKK are the Kurdish organization of Maoist communist in Kurdistan. They are using the labour dictatorship laws based on the Chinese leader philosophy of Mao Zedong. They are killing even their own leaders some time. The methods they are using are out dated and not good for this time any more. The PKK created PJAK in Iran and created branches in Iraq and Syria too.
The Turks are very successful to stamp the entire Kurdish people as communist and terrorist. Even the west and the USA are dealing and doing business with Chinese Maoist Government now successfully but the PKK are known to them to be terrorist Kurds. The Turks are very successful because of the amount of the money they are spending on the lobbyist in Washington D.C. The Lobbyists are doing the tricks for Turkey. The Turks are keeping the PKK to fight them, Because the war with the PKK are giving them the excuses to finish off the Kurdish people just like what they did to the Armenian in the past.
PKK and its affiliated political parties are not capable to work with other Kurdish political parties because of their rigid ideologies. They did form Kurdistan parliaments (KNK) in Europe without teeth. Their military leaders are making decisions in the field. They are not capable to mobilize Kurdish people to support the cause, majority of Kurds in Turkey voted for Islamic Government of Turkey in the elections. They are not capable to get more than ten thousand fighter in forty to fifty million Kurds, but they are stubborn and continue with the fighting. That is why we are saying they are helping Turks indirectly to use them for finishing the Kurdish populations.
Why the PKK insisting to go on with the failure after failure. Why they are not listening to the logics. The best ways to fight for Kurdish people’s right are the peaceful one. The peaceful fight by Dr. Ismail Besikci, Mahdi & Leyla Zana, Ahmed Turk, Osman Baydemir and thousand of others who are get abused by Turks in Turkey but they are continue with their fight for Kurdish right in Turkey. If you like to fight for the right of Kurds and other Iranian nations then fight with Iranian liberation movement. You can adopt the establishment of the Aryan (Iranian) Economic Union (AU) and democratic system as your goal to achieve for the Iranian people. You will see the support of the people in Iran will be increased by million fold because you are fighting against the most horrible religion dictatorships in Iran. You are going to safe Iran from Turkish expansions and liberating Iranian people. After Iran liberation you can see how powerful Turks are in Turkey. You will have economic leverage with the international communities around the world then. The Turks will let the Kurds go without fight, because then their fight will be subsiding for them. The war by plan are more effective than the war without plan.
Barzani wars against Iraq
Barzani family origins are unknown in Kurdistan. The great grand father of the Barzani family was one of the disciples of the “Sufi Islamic sect founder Mawlana Khalid Jaff (1779-1827)”. Mawlana Khalid Jaff is known as the founder of the Naqshbandi Sufi sect of Islam in Kurdistan. And he did have many disciples one of them was the great grand father of the Barzani family. That great grand father of the Barzani family got the title of Islamic Sheikhs (Islamic teachers) and got permission from the founder to teach the Sufism in the Village of Barzan. The Sufi teachers are called “Sheikhs” and members are called “Sufi”. It is like the honey bee colonies. The “Sufi” has to work and “Sheikhs” are teaching and ruling the community.
The Barzani family are very strange among other Naqshbandi Sufi sects. Their females are forbidden to marry others. They have to marry one from their own family. The Family males are allowed to marry from others. They are using marriages to control Kurdish tribes. The “Sheikhs” getting married many times in his life, it is not strange if you see 80 year old Barzani “Sheikhs” are married to the 10 year old Girl based on Islamic laws. No one knows what is going on inside the Barzani “Sheikhs” families.
The Barzani Sheikhs family are less than hundred families. They are controlling about 40-50 thousand people from four original Kurdish tribes whom become Sufi. They are controlling the Sufis. The controls are the relationship between slave and master. They are using Sufi as a military force to control the Kurds in Iraq. They did take over the KDP political party organization in 1961. The populations are suffering from the rule of Barzani now.
The Barzani “Sheikhs” families are not educated. They are dreaming to be powerful and rich like the royal Saudi family of the Saudi Arabia. They are abusing the Kurdish population now. There are no hopes for democratic system in Kurdistan region of Iraq. Talabani was an assistance of Barzani family with his father in law until 1963. Talabani did split from the Barzani family to reform the KDP. Talabani and his deceased father in law did form the PUK political organizations.
Talabani wars against Iraq and Barzani family
Talabani family origins are known in Kurdistan. The great grand father of the Talabani family was one of the disciples of the “Qadari Islamic sect”. The great grand father of the Talabani family’s name was Mullah Mahmood Talabian. Most likely he was the Islamic student come from Afghanistan and become Mullah in Talabin region among the Kurdish tribe of Zangahnah. The great grand father of the Talabani family got the title of Islamic Sheikhs (Islamic teachers) and got permission from the care takers of the Qadari to teach in the Village of Talabin. The Qadari teachers are called “Sheikhs” and members are called “Darwish”. It is like the honey bee colonies. The “Darwish” has to work and “Sheikhs” are teaching and ruling the community.
Talabani formed political party which are called PUK. He used Marxist Leninist ideology first and then become Maoist communist and then become socialist International. He fought against Barzani family and Iraqi Government too. He did signed loyalty to the Arab nationalist movement of the Former Egyptian President. He is working for every power in the region and overseas to make money. He did used the Kurdish people successfully for over 50 years to make living. He is President of Iraq now and has his own military force to balance Barzani family in the region.

He fooled Kurds and his supporter very well. He was claming to be the Kurdish liberator, until he becomes President of Iraq. He is using the money to pay his forces and control his region using Iron fist.
He signed strategical cooperation’s with the Barzani family now. Both families are taking billion’s of dollars of the budget money and dividing it equally. Both families are very rich now. Talabani really fooled the member of his party “PUK”. They are fooled because they thought he is the reformist. But he comes out to be another “Sheikhs” family, with mentality just like Barzani family with only one difference. The Talabani family are normal with regard of the female member of their own family.
Both Barzani and Talabani family are the murderous. They are killing now and killed many Kurdish and none Kurdish people in the region without any courts. They are operating like mafia organization in Kurdistan. The unfortunate Kurds has enough enemies for their exterminations. They are happy to see the ends of the World because there is no other happiness are available to them in Kurdistan.
The Turks are saying “Happy is the man who calls himself a Turk’ “.
The Kurds should say “Happy are the Kurds who see the end of the World”
We are not exaggerating. The lives for Kurds are not bearable any more in Kurdistan. May almighty God help our people soon, to see Jesus Christ will return to earth to give us freedom from Barzani, Talabani, and PKK, Turks, Islamic Republic of Iran, Islamic terrorist and the Arab Imperialist?
In conclusion
The PKK and PJAK are more likely to be like Talabani in the future. They are not capable to work with other Kurdish political organization because of their dictatorial Maoist believes. The Kurdish people indeed are facing the mass exterminations or Genocides by regional powers but the political parties in Kurdistan are fighting for powers and money collections only.
The statement below by the PKK, PJAK, PDK, PUK and others political parties in Kurdistan are not new. The reality are some thing else. They do not believe in democratic systems. They are in the business of killing Kurd just like the regional powers does.
The Kurd needs protection from the UN. We are appealing to the UN, USA, EU, Russian and Israel to help Kurd and Iranian people for survival. We want rule of law. We want peace. We want free elections. We want freedom of religion. We want international communities help to get out from the unjust wars. We want the international community to understand the Turks of Turkey, PKK Maoist, Islamic extremist ruler of Iran, PUK of Talabani, PDK of Barzani, Talabain of Afghanistan, corrupt Government of Pakistan and other regimes in our Aryan (Iranian) lands.
We are appealing to all the people who love humanity, peace and stable region to help our cause for peaceful coexistence in the region.
Sincerely,
Jaff Sassani
from the SKDC
December 26, 2008
jaff.skdc@googlemail.com
http://www.jaff-sassanie.com/Default.aspx

We are an organization in Iran and Iraq to mobilize the Jaff people in both countries to have Voice in the Kurdistan politics and defend our people's rights. This is our short term goals. Our long term goals we like to establish the Aryan (Iranian) Economic Union (AU) similar to the EU. We believe that our people and the Kurdish people will be free when all the Iranian people Get united for establishing the AU which every sub nations of the Aryan (Iranian) nations within the AU will have the right to form and have their own independent country within the AU.
A political peaceful solution to the Kurdish issue in Eastern Kurdistan-Iran through dialogue and negotiations is the first political choice for PJAK. The goal is to mobilize and unite the Kurds and the Iranian opposition in a wide democratic united front to change the regime in Iran and establish a Democratic Confederacies State of Iran.
The support of the international democratic system is an essential factor in our struggle to achieve our goals. Our political and diplomatic policies are directed at the local, regional and international levels. Our mission is to seek alliances and to establish good relationships with the democratic powers and groups who are interested in democratisations of Iran, human rights, peace and freedom.
In order to achieve these goals a wide democratic front and cooperation between the Kurdish and the Iranian opposition is required. From the day that PJAK was established and until now, we have sought to build a front and to cooperate with all groups and parties. Up until today, we have put emphasis on this issue and we will keep making an effort in order to achieve our goals and objectives. The Political and Diplomatic Committee of our party has been very active in this respect and has reached many notable results.
The current repression against Kurdish civilians requires a quick and effective international intervention. The killing of Kurds and other ethnic groups has to be stopped as soon as possible in order to prevent a possible blood bath by the regime.
The Political and Diplomatic Committee of PJAK
19 December 2008
Kurdish groups from Iraq, Iran, Syria, Turkey and Europe are planning to organize an international conference
27 December 2008, Saturday
By: AYªE KARABAT ANKARA
Kurds plan int’l conference on Turkey’s Kurdish issue

Kurdish groups from Iraq, Iran, Syria, Turkey and Europe are planning to organize an international conference under the auspices of northern Iraqi Kurdish leadership in order to create a road map for the solution of the Kurdish problem in Turkey.
Kurdish leaders test the waters in Ankara
EMRE USLU & ÖNDER AYTAÇ
25 December 2008,
Today’s Zaman
As possible scenarios to address the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) problem in northern Iraq and in Turkey loom on the horizon, Ankara is becoming an interesting place to watch.
First, Iraqi journalist Rebwar Kerim claimed that Turkey rejected close to 3,800 PKK terrorists who attempted to surrender to the Turkish Armed Forces (TSK) in 1992 and sent them back to their hideouts in the mountains of northern Iraq, which the TSK later bombed. The TSK spokesman did not deny the claims. Further, retired generals and Osman Öcalan, brother of the PKK's founder and imprisoned leader, Abdullah Öcalan, also confirmed that the PKK militants were allowed to return to the PKK bases in 1992.
Lawmaker: Iraqi primer wants Kurdistan to be bombarded by Turkey and Iran
London (KurdishMedia.com)
20 December 2008:
An Iraqi lawmaker states that the Iraqi prime minister wants Kurdistan to be bombarded by Turks and Iranians, reported Peyamner website on Saturday.
US: NO COBRAS FOR TURKEY - BUT RUSSIA SELLS
Ankara will purchase attack helicopters from Russia
Vatan (Turkey),
December 22, 2008
Ankara will purchase attack helicopters from Russia after its request to buy Cobra and Super Cobra helicopters from the United States was turned down. Turkey will purchase 32 Mi-28 attack helicopters from Russia and pay some $1 billion to use them until Turkey and Italy co-produce the A-129 helicopters.
Turkey plans to purchase 32 strike helicopters from Russia
Dec 23, 08
Xinhua
ANKARA - Turkey plans to buy 32 Mi-28 strikehelicopters from Russia with a cost of some one billion U.S. dollars, Turkish daily Vatan reported on Monday.

The deal was reached with Russia after the U.S. Department of State declined the Turkish Armed Forces' request to buy 10 second-hand Cobras from the U.S. before receiving the first T129 helicopters, co-produced with Italy's Agusta Westland.
The U.S. side declined the Turkish request citing the absence of available helicopters of this type, according to the report.
Three Turkish Soldiers Killed In Kurdish Rebel Attack
12-25-08
DIYARBAKIR (AFP)--Kurdish rebels launched a deadly attack in southeastern Turkey hours after the Turkish and Iraqi prime ministers vowed a fresh clampdown on the separatists, officials said Thursday.
Turkey, Iraq pledge joint fight against Kurds
AFP
ANKARA, Dec 24: The prime ministers of Turkey and Iraq vowed on Wednesday to step up their cooperation in the fight against Turkish Kurdish rebels whose presence in northern Iraq has cast a shadow over relations.
The thorny issue of rebels from the separatist Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) sheltering in neighbouring Iraq was at the centre of talks during a visit in Ankara by Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki.
Turkey's Domino Theory
By David Ignatius
Sunday, December 21, 2008; B07
The Washington Post
ISTANBUL -- As Ahmet Davutoglu, Turkey's leading foreign policy strategist, explains the series of political choices that are ahead in the Middle East next year, he might be describing a row of dominoes. If they fall in the right direction, good things could happen. But if they start toppling the wrong way, watch out.
We are appealing to all the people around the world to help the Kurd and Iranian people for achieving peace and stable region in the land of Aryan (Iranian) people.

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Independent commentator on the Kurdish struggle for freedom.
Axin ArbiliIndependent commentator on the Kurdish struggle for freedom.
The enemies' agents
To call the only secular and democratic movement of the Kurds and of all the oppressed peoples of the Middle East, the PKK, an enemy of the Kurds proves that you're either not a Kurd and or a paid agent. If you were a true Kurd, you wouldn't spread lies here about the PKK liberation movement and not defend the islamfascist Mullah regime of Iran, which is a regime that persecutes Kurds, Bahai's, woment and others as a principle and as state policy. As long as you defame the legitimate self-defence of the Kurdish liberation movement, which is the only chance for a democratic middle east, you are simply another paid propagandist of the local terrror regimes and all your words and suggestions are worth absolutely nothing.
by Axin Arbili (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 16 comments) on Thursday, January 1, 2009 at 6:18:54 AM





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We are an organization in Iran and Iraq to mobilize the Jaff people in both countries to have
Voice in the Kurdistan politics and defend our people's rights. This is our short term goals.
Our long term goals we like to establish the Aryan (Iranian) Economic Union (AU) similar to
the EU.
We believe that our people and the Kurdish people will be free when all the Iranian people
Get united for establishing the AU which every sub nations of the Aryan (Iranian) nations...

to see more of bio, click on member name
Jaff SassaniWe are an organization in Iran and Iraq to mobilize the Jaff people in both countries to have
Voice in the Kurdistan politics and defend our people's rights. This is our short term goals.
Our long term goals we like to establish the Aryan (Iranian) Economic Union (AU) similar to
the EU.
We believe that our people and the Kurdish people will be free when all the Iranian people
Get united for establishing the AU which every sub nations of the Aryan (Iranian) nations...

to see more of bio, click on member name
We want free Kurdistan without oppressors
Dear Mr. Arbili
We are at the SKDC wishing you happy New Year. We hope this year will bring peace for Iranian and the world. We are wishing for freedom for our people to speak free without getting killed or blow up by assassins and terrorist.
We are not working for others. We are pointing out the truth. To call PKK “democratic movement of the Kurds” then you just cheating yourself. The PKK are the communist labor dictatorships; they never accept their own people’s different views; since when the communist organizations become democratic system in the world. They below up the best of their own organizations. They are never going to be successful alone because of their own policy. We are saying there are possibilities they will be like Talabani when some one give them a chance to rule that part of Kurdistan.
We are challenging them what ever they are doing is not right. You are not reading our articles with regard of Iran and accusing as to be an agent of others.
We are not the sale man of Kurdish blood. We are defending the right of the Kurds for survival.
We are calling for the establishment of Aryan (Iranian) Economic Union (AU) just like the EU. We are calling for free election and rule of law. We are not working for fame and money. We are not after exploitations of young females for sex. We are working for Kurds only.
The PKK’s wars against the world are wrong. Most of the Kurdish intellectual got killed in Turkey because of the PKK policy. They are not bringing in benefits compared to the amount of the losses.
We are calling on them to join the Aryan (Iranian) liberation movement of Iran. The Kurdish liberation movements alone are not going any where. The experiments of our people in occupied part of Kurdistan in Iraq are the vivid memory in our mind. The Kurds mass migrations give our people a chance to have peace and country but Thief Barzani & Talabani took that away from us.
PKK are making parliament in exile (KNK) without teeth. The Kurdish people always are fighting very well but the dictator leaderships in the end will sale their bloods to make money and be famous, this is our history in the past. We are against that for sure.
We are using Barzani and Talabani families as an example in this age but you can look up the others in the past. Our people in south Kurdistan (occupied part of Kurdistan by Iraq) fought very well. The Peshmergah forces (freedom fighters) and the people did sacrificed a lot; but in the end the dictator Barzani & Talabani become rich and famous. We know they are calling Northern Iraq thee most democratic region in the Middle East. Yes we do know how stupid those statements are; then you call PKK “democratic movement of the Kurds” which is laughable to call communist dictatorships democrat.
The PKK are every thing; but they are not democrat. Their democratic systems are equivalent to the democratic systems of Turkey, Iran, and Barzani & Talabani thieves.
We are the descendent of the Ardasher I of Sassanid. We are not thieves and we are not going to lie period.
We believe the Kurds will be free from oppressors when they are united with other Aryan (Iranian) nations.
by Jaff Sassani (17 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 90 comments) on Thursday, January 1, 2009 at 7:22:37 AM





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Independent commentator on the Kurdish struggle for freedom.
Axin ArbiliIndependent commentator on the Kurdish struggle for freedom.
Kurds are not Iranians!
You can call yourself whatever you want, but Kurds will not become Iranians just because you want them to become part of some "Aryan Union" led by Iran. There is no "Jaff people", this is a plot of the Iranian terror and islamo fascist regime to stir up disunity among the Kurds. They have used these tactics for centuries, as have the Arabs and Turks. These are masters of deceptions. They have perfected the art of slavekeeping and will do everything that the slaves remain blind and weak.

If your mothertongue is Kurdish and not Persian (though both are an Indo-European language), then you are a Kurd whatever dialect it may be or Kurdish tribe you belong to.

You should know that Iran and Iranians are not interested in an "Aryan Union", especially not with the Kurdish nation. They have only contempt for the Kurds and have had them feel that throughout all of history. Citing a romantic view of a "Persian culture" does not change the historical facts, for Kurds, that past is full of injustice, massacres, genocides.

The Iranians have called themselves Muslims under the Shah, they call themselves Muslims under the Mullahs, but whoever the despot was, they never ceased from oppressing Kurds and exploiting Kurdistan. They are cooperating with the other enemies to keep us suppressed and slaves forever.

You are totally deceiving yourself in believing that there can be any change of attitude as long as they remain Muslims and adhire to that intolerant, brutal and despotic form of Islamism, the Shii sect. And it would make no difference if they were followers of the other sect, called Sunnism. Make no mistake, Mr. Sassani, the Iranians don't love us and are not interested in equal partnership.

You can't fool the informed reader about the role and importance of the PKK for the Kurdish nation. You use the language of the oppressors and terror regimes when you call the liberation movement "communist dictatorship" or the like.

You very well know that he turkish air force is flying raids against the southern territories and murdering innocent Kurds, the only force that is defending Kurdistan as a whole is the Kurdish Liberation Movement, and they have given the turkish and iranian military fascists serious blows on the ground that have prevented them from full-scale genocidal assaults.

Remember that there was no word of Kurds and Kurdistan before the PKK. It is because of the PKK that the Kurdish voice is heard, and we are talking about 70% of the Kurds under foreign occupaton in northern Kurdistan ("south-east turkey" in newspeak).

If it hadn't been for the existence and resistance of the PKK, the Kurdish nation would have been totally exterminated or assimilated by now!

Iran is a terror regime with unchanging barbaric attitudes towards Kurds and other religions. They have no idea or plan of an "Aryan Union" because they are expecting the Mehdi, the islamic messias to come to earth to destroy the unbelievers, which includes all the Sunnis and followers of all the other religions, and to establish the Mehdi state which would rule world-wide. In that theology, which is state policy, there is no political unions among equals, there is only the shariah rule of their Allah.

Stop dreaming of an "Aryan union" with the enemy, stop deceiving yourself. Dream and support the more realistic goal of an independent sovereign state of Kurdistan. That must exist first before there can be any political or economic unions with other states, and before that can happen these nations (arabs, turks, iranians) must accept the Kurdish nation as a people with the same rights as all the others under international law.

If you are a Kurd who truly wants the freedom and justice for the Kurds, I too wish you a new year which sees the Kurdish nation coming closer and closer to this goal. But, make no mistake, the only force that maintains that dream and possibility today, is no other force than the Kurdish liberation movement, the PKK!
by Axin Arbili (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 16 comments) on Thursday, January 1, 2009 at 2:09:19 PM





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We are an organization in Iran and Iraq to mobilize the Jaff people in both countries to have
Voice in the Kurdistan politics and defend our people's rights. This is our short term goals.
Our long term goals we like to establish the Aryan (Iranian) Economic Union (AU) similar to
the EU.
We believe that our people and the Kurdish people will be free when all the Iranian people
Get united for establishing the AU which every sub nations of the Aryan (Iranian) nations...

to see more of bio, click on member name
Jaff SassaniWe are an organization in Iran and Iraq to mobilize the Jaff people in both countries to have
Voice in the Kurdistan politics and defend our people's rights. This is our short term goals.
Our long term goals we like to establish the Aryan (Iranian) Economic Union (AU) similar to
the EU.
We believe that our people and the Kurdish people will be free when all the Iranian people
Get united for establishing the AU which every sub nations of the Aryan (Iranian) nations...

to see more of bio, click on member name
Please read our articles here and in address below
We at the SKDC from the Jaff Sassani organization wish you happy new years. From bottom of our heart we want to see the independent Kurdistan. After the experiments of Kurds in Iraq; it is clear that the Kurds are much worse than Saddam Hussein for other Kurds. The Kurdish mass migrations to Iran and Turkey did give our people the chance to be free. But the thieves like Barzani and Talabani took that chance away form us.
We are just concerns with the PKK, PJAK, Islamic parties to repeat the same. We are just warning our people about that. The Turks and Arabs are busy with our eliminations but KRG of Barzani and Talabani are collecting wealth and continue with their mischiefs.
Please read our articles here and in the address below to know more about us.
• Israel Failed Policy Of Self-Defense
• Iran The War For Heart Mind And Soul Between Nationalist And Religion
http://www.buzzle.com/authors.asp?author=22116
by Jaff Sassani (17 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 90 comments) on Thursday, January 1, 2009 at 5:14:19 PM





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Independent commentator on the Kurdish struggle for freedom.
Axin ArbiliIndependent commentator on the Kurdish struggle for freedom.
PKK = FREEDOM, HONOUR, DIGNITY OF ALL KURDS!!!
Pointing to corruption in south Kurdistan or to corrupt Kurdish leaders is one thing, but stating that the Kurds are worse than Saddam is just the worst accusation one can possibly make against the Kurdish nation. It is either a sign of psychological disorder or simply the propaganda of the enemies. In any case, beside being absurd and wrong, it's a crminal and outrageous accusation!

It is not quite clear what your aim is, Mr. Sassani, but it becomes clearer and clearer that you are not helping the Kurdish cause with such ridiculous and false statements which aim at defaming and criminalising the only resistance movement the Kurds have.

The Kurdish liberation movement and the PKK want the end of oppression and occupation of Kurdistan, and they want the establishment of democracy and equal partnership with the other nations of the region.

You are either really naive in believing in an "aryan union" or, and it looks more and more likely, this idea is a plot of the enemies to create disunity and pull fractions of the Kurdish people towards the Iranian sphere of influence. As we all know, the Shii Arabs of iraq are in that sphere already, and now there are trying to get the Kurds under Iranian influence too by inventing some ideas of Aryan brotherhood. But you should at least get your facts right, for example, in another article you mention Kazahks, Taijikis and others as part of the Iranian brotherhood, but these are Turkic nations and not Iranians...

You shouldn't play into the hands of our enemies by being part of their plots. You can critizise the corruption in the KRG, investigate it and report the details together with the facts instead of making general accusations. That will serve the people. But making false accusations against the liberation movement and looking for help from Iran and Iranians are going in the bad, ill-intended direction. As it is now, your approach is nothing but treacherous to Kurdish aspirations of freedom.
by Axin Arbili (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 16 comments) on Saturday, January 3, 2009 at 3:47:31 AM





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We are an organization in Iran and Iraq to mobilize the Jaff people in both countries to have
Voice in the Kurdistan politics and defend our people's rights. This is our short term goals.
Our long term goals we like to establish the Aryan (Iranian) Economic Union (AU) similar to
the EU.
We believe that our people and the Kurdish people will be free when all the Iranian people
Get united for establishing the AU which every sub nations of the Aryan (Iranian) nations...

to see more of bio, click on member name
Jaff SassaniWe are an organization in Iran and Iraq to mobilize the Jaff people in both countries to have
Voice in the Kurdistan politics and defend our people's rights. This is our short term goals.
Our long term goals we like to establish the Aryan (Iranian) Economic Union (AU) similar to
the EU.
We believe that our people and the Kurdish people will be free when all the Iranian people
Get united for establishing the AU which every sub nations of the Aryan (Iranian) nations...

to see more of bio, click on member name
PKK = PKK only
PKK = PKK only
Wars without aim are wrong. The Kurdish tribal and political parties are going to war without plan. The looser always are the people of Kurdistan. We are suffering for thousand of years because this family or that family wants to be famous and rich.
It is not only corruptions in southern Kurdistan are going on. It is the system Barzani and Talabani family member trying to impose on us, just like what Saddam Hussein did to us in Iraq.
Barzani are acting like Saddam Hussein in Arbil region. They are acting as occupier’s forces from “Haji Omran “to Arbil. They are confiscating the people’s land, abusing the population in xoshnaw, sourchai, balaki regions. What is the difference between Barzani and Tikreti Arab tribes?
Talabani does hate us in the “Jaff “region, we are drinking water from the sewage, our children are sick and thousand already dead, what else he can do to us, so we can be accepted as a Kurds not traitors as you are saying. We are one fourth of the population of Iraqi Kurdistan. You are clamming to be Arbili from “Hawlare” but you do not hear of the “Jaff people: so how you know under what kind of condition we are living in Kurdistan.
Talabani Shiak families are our enemy for over century because of the land dispute. Now he is using socialist international politics ideas and formed his own military forces for his family to control and use the city of Sulayminah against the “Jaff people”, under the name of Kurdish people liberation.
Masud Barzani allied with Iran, Turkey, Iraq and the USA to abuse the people from Zako to Kahanqien and become billionaire now. He did built his own military force in the region to kill or abuse anyone who needs to live free from his tribal dominations.
Talabani with his wife (From doam family) allied with Egypt, Syria, Iran, Turkey, Iraq, USA, Shi’a and Saddam family plus Sunni; Talabani are running the show in our region. He is taking our budget money and abusing us too.
You are calling the two mafia families are liberator of Kurds. And we are trying to build strategical alliance with the Eryn (Aryan or Iranian) people for the future according to you we are traitor. This is all because we want to build relationship with Persian from our bloods.
We are building relationship with the Iranian people for our own future. So we can bring Iranian forces to arrest Barzani and Talabani to face the Kurdish justice for their crime against our people. We are not with the Islamic Republic of Iran (IRI) like Barzani and Talabni does now. Yes we are going to be with the forces of the liberator of Iran from now, for our own future.
PKK: We are saying the Kurds should be careful with the PKK communist movement. Because there are possibilities they will be just like Barzani and Talabni in the future.
If PKK or PJAK are working for the Kurdish liberation then they should listen to our call by not fighting Iranian people alone. If they want to fight Iran then they should fight Iran with Iranian liberation movement not alone. We are part of the Iranian nations if you like it or not. We are not separatist and never going to separate from Eryan nations. We are not going to let them to have bases south of Shaho Mountains. The “Jaff” already are fighting them in our region in Iran. We are going to fight them in Kermanshah, Ilam, Koramabad too. PJAK are the organization of the Mahabad and Sina only.
We are for the Kurds unity. And believe that the Kurdish people should have parliament in Europe. The parliament should discuss the Kurdish liberation movement direction freely. They are the one should come up with guidance not Barzani, Talabani, PKK or others. The political parties in Kurdistan are designed to serve the family business (Mafia). They are coming under many names and different ideologies as the communist, democrat, socialist, conservative you name it. They are having it in Kurdistan. But all are going to serve this family or that family in the end.
If PKK, Barzani, Talabani or other political parties organizations are genuine. And they are working for the Kurdish liberations. Why they do not want to have supreme parliament in Europe to discus Kurdish society problems freely and come up with the guidance. And the parliament decision has to be followed by all the political parties for the liberations of Kurdistan.
The parliament should come from the representative of all communities from Kurdistan. If ever we have parliament of the people. Then we are going to argue our idea for union with the Eryan (Aryan or Iranian) people. We will argue for what we believe the Kurds should do or not do. The best direction should be voted by the parliament not Barzani, Talabani or Ojalin.
by Jaff Sassani (17 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 90 comments) on Saturday, January 3, 2009 at 5:30:50 AM





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Independent commentator on the Kurdish struggle for freedom.
Axin ArbiliIndependent commentator on the Kurdish struggle for freedom.
PKK = United Kurdistan, Democratic Kurdish society!
I never claimed or believed that the present rulers of south Kurdistan are the true representatives of the Kurdish people! If they were, they would have listened to the people's voice that was clearly expressed in the Kurdish Referendum Movement back in 2005. The population of southern Kurdistan declared and opted with an overwhelming 90% vote for an independent Kurdish state and not to be part of Iraq, this artificial and criminal creation of Anglo-American colonialism.

The will of the Kurdish people was discarded, and the Kurdish leaders became partners of US global empire in the region.
No doubt money played a big role. Adding to it the intimidations and threats of the regional powers.
I never understood and will never accept how Kurdish politicians became presidents and foreign ministers of that terror state of Iraq, instead of working for the independence of their country.
The KRG is more or less at present just another puppet regime implementing US instructions.
The PKK knows all of that and no doubt does not agree with this arrangement. That is why the US is allowing the turkish and iranian armies to attack them. In fact, the PKK is the only force in the region that opposes the geopolitical empire of the USA. And it is that US strategy, financial and military support that encouraged and enabled these terror regimes to commit crimes and maintain the status quo of unjustice; which keeps nations in slavery.
Understand that the PKK is the only hope the Kurds have!
As to your information; all I can say and hope is that if not today, certainly one day the traitors of the Kurdish people and any of its members will pay the price for their treason and wrong-doings.

Contrary to your opinion, however, the PKK liberation movement has a concrete plan how to bring about the freedom of all the Kurds and establish a just and democratic society throughout Kurdistan. This is not a question of ideology but survival!

I firmly believe that we must find the solution within our own people not in the Iranian or any other people. Looking at history, I don't believe that other peoples will support us in our struggle.
However, I can't stop you from believing that. If you and 1/4 of all Kurds in the region believe that the Iranians will support you, you should have the right to seek their support. I believe in democracy, so if that is the will of your group, you should be free to be part of that Iranian commonwealth. If you have the legimate rights on the lands that you claim and can prove that it was stolen from you, then there should be a investigation and the truth established.
As I said, there is no democracy under these circumstances and under US imperial rule. The KRG administration is not transparent and do not represent the actual will of the people. Kerkuk is another example of missed opportunies and wrong policies. They allowed the turks and arabs to bypass the constitution. The status of the Kurdish city remains unclear, perhaps it is already lost. That would be an example of a crime committed by Kurds against the Kurdish nation.

The PKK warned the KRG several times about the Kerkuk situation and has urged them to take steps with other Kurdish groups. Also it has made the proposal that you are making, to organise a general meeting of all the major parties of Kurdistan to meet and discuss all the steps freely and democratically. This is the chance for PUK and KPD to demonstrate their commitment to the Kurdish nation as a whole rather than serving their own selfish interests under US protection, which is only stategic, untrustworthy, temporary.



by Axin Arbili (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 16 comments) on Saturday, January 3, 2009 at 7:23:34 AM





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We are an organization in Iran and Iraq to mobilize the Jaff people in both countries to have
Voice in the Kurdistan politics and defend our people's rights. This is our short term goals.
Our long term goals we like to establish the Aryan (Iranian) Economic Union (AU) similar to
the EU.
We believe that our people and the Kurdish people will be free when all the Iranian people
Get united for establishing the AU which every sub nations of the Aryan (Iranian) nations...

to see more of bio, click on member name
Jaff SassaniWe are an organization in Iran and Iraq to mobilize the Jaff people in both countries to have
Voice in the Kurdistan politics and defend our people's rights. This is our short term goals.
Our long term goals we like to establish the Aryan (Iranian) Economic Union (AU) similar to
the EU.
We believe that our people and the Kurdish people will be free when all the Iranian people
Get united for establishing the AU which every sub nations of the Aryan (Iranian) nations...

to see more of bio, click on member name
PKK should change their own strategy of their wars now
We are not revolutionary’s adventurist or Islamic extremist and communist ideologist to seek animosity of the USA, EU, Russian and Israel. We do understand very well that this four power are influential’s and have power in our region. That is why we are asking them for help. The four powers in this list are the king makers in the region.
We believe that the cooperation and mutual benefit between us in the Middle East and the four powers are better options for peace and stable region; than the options of the confrontations and wars with them. They are capable to push us for the internal wars too, which are more destructive and useless.
We are blaming the US Government for supporting Turkey, Barzani, Talabani, Maliki and other dictators in our region the Eryan (Aryan or Iranian) land. But the people running the show are their own responsibility to be fare with their own people.
An example of the US Government cooperation with Germany and Japan we are like. The people in charge of the show in both countries are working for the benefit of their own people and the US Government did not stop them. The people in Turkey, Egypt, Kurdistan, Iraq and Afghanistan are corrupt and anti their own people, we do not blame the US Government for that. We are appealing to the USA people and the new US Government to change the policy for not supporting corrupt and thieves in the region.
We are asking the PKK to change their own policy too, by attacking few countries with few thousand people. They are wasting the young Kurdish people for wrong cause. The worlds are getting united more and more. They should concentrate on the Iran only for time being. If they defeat Iran and bring peace, law and order to Iran then the NATO, Israel and Russian gladly will work with the Eryan (Aryan or Iranian) people and Turks of Turkey to bring peace for the region. The Kurds will be liberators of Iranian people and will have power to build their own independent Kurdistan within the Aryan Economic Union (AU). Just go ahead and advise the PKK to work with the Iranian people instead of self distractions and separations.
by Jaff Sassani (17 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 90 comments) on Saturday, January 3, 2009 at 9:09:51 AM





________________________________________
Independent commentator on the Kurdish struggle for freedom.
Axin ArbiliIndependent commentator on the Kurdish struggle for freedom.
PKK = Liberation from the turkish, arab, iranian oppressors
On which side are you exactly??? You state that the "Jaff people" are fighting the PJAK forces not allowing them to gain ground in east Kurdistan while at the same time you are demanding the PKK and PJAK to fight the iranian army?
If you want iran liberated from the islamo fascist mullahs and if you want to liberate the iranian people from these fanatics, shouldn't you be cooperating with the PKK and PJAK instead of fighting them?

They want exactly what you want: The end of the kemalofascist and islamo fascist dictatorships. These fascist regimes are the ones waging war on the peoples and murdering the Kurdish youth - NOT THE PKK!!!
But as I already explained elsewhere, I don't believe that the other peoples will support the Kurdish struggle. I believe that liberation movement is in a fundamental error to count on such support, to assume that a rhetoric of universal liberation of the whole region will lead to success. Kurds don't have the means to liberate anybody else but themselves!
There should be only one single goal and all concentration and efforts directed to it: The liberation of the Kurdish people and creation of a sovereign Kurdish homeland. The other nations, regardless of their rulers and ideologies they are subjected to, will remain hostile to this cause and nothing will change their attitudes towards the Kurds.

Therefore, Kurds should not count on anyone else but themselves.
Question: You may regard yourself Iranian, but when have the Iranians ever shown that they regard the Kurds as part of the Iranian people??? Did they do anything against the Kurdish genocide in iraq? Did they open their borders when Kurds were fleeing from saddam? How are they treating the Kurds in the Iranian state? Do they have the same rights as the Iranians?

The answers are quite clear.

As to your assumption that Russians, Americans and Europeans will side with the Kurds when they have liberated the Iranians, note and understand:
The US is not interested in free sovereign countries in the region. The don't want a free democratic Iran, they want another client state that will carry out their instructions. Further, Kurds are not of any value for these powers because we are poor and powerless. They prefer to side with those that have something to offer them. For the americans and europeans, the turks can be mercenaries as nato-member; arabs are their oil supplier and cooperate for the safety of israel: DO YOU SEE HOW QUIET THEY ARE WHILE THE ISRAELIS ARE BOMBING FELLOW ARABS IN GAZA??? Russians too are no friend of Kurds! Russia provides the arabs and iranians with military equipment and political/diplomatic support, and in return the islamist guarantee not to send their terrorists into chechnya and russian territory. That's their deal and the russians won't change their strategy for powerless and poor Kurds who can't offer them anything.
The records are clear: It's in nobody's interest that we exist. When saddam was gassing us, none of these powers and no other country at the UN - except one single honourable delegation (the Swedish) - protested!
NO FRIENDS BUT THE MOUNTAINS!!!

by Axin Arbili (3 articles, 0 quicklinks, 0 diaries, 16 comments) on Sunday, January 4, 2009 at 7:01:20 AM





________________________________________
We are an organization in Iran and Iraq to mobilize the Jaff people in both countries to have
Voice in the Kurdistan politics and defend our people's rights. This is our short term goals.
Our long term goals we like to establish the Aryan (Iranian) Economic Union (AU) similar to
the EU.
We believe that our people and the Kurdish people will be free when all the Iranian people
Get united for establishing the AU which every sub nations of the Aryan (Iranian) nations...

to see more of bio, click on member name
Jaff SassaniWe are an organization in Iran and Iraq to mobilize the Jaff people in both countries to have
Voice in the Kurdistan politics and defend our people's rights. This is our short term goals.
Our long term goals we like to establish the Aryan (Iranian) Economic Union (AU) similar to
the EU.
We believe that our people and the Kurdish people will be free when all the Iranian people
Get united for establishing the AU which every sub nations of the Aryan (Iranian) nations...

to see more of bio, click on member name
PKK & OTHERS ARE PARTNER OF TURKEY & IRAN FOR KURDS ELMENIAT
Dear Kak Axin
You are absolutely explaining the Kurds failed policy below and here is your answer for each statement. Please read carefully what we are saying without emotional bad feeling and rhetoric’s.
We are Kurds do like debates for month and years without agreement because we do not like to hear each other. Our discussions here just like those Kurdish meeting. The Kurds are stubborn and not listening to the logics. You are keep saying PKK is this and that without listening why we come to existence in the first place.
You are saying
“On which side are you exactly??? You state that the "Jaff people" are fighting the PJAK forces not allowing them to gain ground in east Kurdistan while at the same time you are demanding the PKK and PJAK to fight the iranian army?”
Our Answer is
We are not on the side of either. We supported the Kurdish revolution in Iraqi Kurdistan under the leadership of Barzani and Talabani Theives until now. We shot the first built and the firs martyrs were from our people “Jaff” from Doukan region (Brother of Kad-Xodai Ismail of Talain) until now. Most of the victims are come from our “Jaff” people. Famous picture of Omar Xawar with his child of “Halabjah and other chemical attacks martyrs are from our people ”Jaffs”, the majority of the Anfial martyrs are from us. We started the Kurdish struggle and paid for it with our bloods and now Barzani and Talabani are taking the benefit of it. What we have from Talabani and Barzani mafia political parties and their families now, bingo.
They used us very well. We promise our martyrs will do just like what they did to bring others help to take over our life and our land to defeat them in near future. You and others are saying we are defaming Kurdish leaders and the Kurdish movement. We are not only defaming them but we are going to arrest them and they have to face Kurdish justice soon.
We are fighting PJAK because we do not want to end up like today in Iraqi Kurdistan of Barzani and Talabani. We do not have agreement with PJAK of Mahabad and Sina; Just like we did not have agreement with Sulayminian “Domas group” before we made mistakes to support cowards and thieves like Talabani and Abraham Ahmad. We are powerless now in the Kurdish politics in Iraqi Kurdistan but we are getting there. We are in contact with the Iranian opposition of the IRI. We are making friends for future to defeat thieves God willing.
We are not going to support PKK or PJAK blindly under the name of Kurds liberation and later on be slave to what we created for ourselves (Barzani & Talabani are our example). We made the mistake in Iraqi Kurdistan and not going to repeat such a mistake again. Paid lot of our blood to make filthy Barzani and Talabani family our leaders; and now we have to pay ten fold more blood to get them out of power.
We are not going to make the same mistake again. We do not believe the Kurdish politicians other than ours period.
We are asking the PKK to join the Iranian liberation movement under the real Iranian parliaments in Europe not alone. We do not accept few people decisions in the mountains to run our life again. Use us and dump us just like Barzani and Talabani do in the south.
We are Iranian and do not want to kill other Iranian. We are fighting the illegal Islamic Republic of Iran but not Iranian people. We are Iranian (Kurds, Persian, Azeri and others). We are not separatist period.
You are saying
If you want iran liberated from the islamo fascist mullahs and if you want to liberate the iranian people from these fanatics, shouldn't you be cooperating with the PKK and PJAK instead of fighting them?

They want exactly what you want: The end of the kemalofascist and islamo fascist dictatorships. These fascist regimes are the ones waging war on the peoples and murdering the Kurdish youth - NOT THE PKK!!!
Your answers are above.
Why we do not want to fight under the leadership of PKK, PJAK or any other political parties in Kurdistan. We do not want to repeat the mistake we made in Iraqi Kurdistan.
You are saying
But as I already explained elsewhere, I don't believe that the other peoples will support the Kurdish struggle. I believe that liberation movement is in a fundamental error to count on such support, to assume that a rhetoric of universal liberation of the whole region will lead to success. Kurds don't have the means to liberate anybody else but themselves!
The answers you are wrong
The philosophies of the most Kurdish leaders are like your statement above. They do not believe on the past and historical periods of Iran. We did have Savvied dynasty, Nadir Shah, Kereem Khan Zand and Doctor Kerrem Senjabi as a leaders of all Iran and the support of all Iranian people. That is wrong with the separatist mentality. They are just after fame and power like stupid Barzani and Talabani families.
The PKK leaderships are not exceptional. They are killing each other and betraying each others for power and fame.
You are saying
There should be only one single goal and all concentration and efforts directed to it: The liberation of the Kurdish people and creation of a sovereign Kurdish homeland. The other nations, regardless of their rulers and ideologies they are subjected to, will remain hostile to this cause and nothing will change their attitudes towards the Kurds.

The answer you are wrong again
That is separations ideology. The Kurds are trying since the collapse of the Sassanid Empire until now without success. Keep getting young Kurds killed to make Barzani and Talabani kind. And after few years you never are going to hear from them again. The Kurds will get killed by millions and the Barzani and Talabani family members will run out with stolen Money to overseas. And then they will be the dancers in night clubs to make living when the stolen money is finished.
You are saying
Therefore, Kurds should not count on anyone else but themselves.
Our answers are
You are absolutely right here, No argument on this statement.
You are saying

Question: You may regard yourself Iranian, but when have the Iranians ever shown that they regard the Kurds as part of the Iranian people??? Did they do anything against the Kurdish genocide in iraq? Did they open their borders when Kurds were fleeing from saddam? How are they treating the Kurds in the Iranian state? Do they have the same rights as the Iranians?

The answers are quite clear.

Our answers are
Yes we are Eryan (Aryan or Iranian) and we are all the same people? The Iranian never said the Kurds are not Eryan (Iranian). The words Iranian are not stand for the citizen of Iran alone. You are not reading our declarations. We are calling people Iranian (From Pakistan to Turkey and from Kurdistan to Kazakhstan). The word Iranian are the derivative of the Eryan (Europeans call it Aryan). The people of the Sassanid Empire are our people under different names now.
Yes current Iran Government is not Iranian. They are the Sayied Arabs family members with the Arab blood and origins. Even the Government of Iran are the enemy of Iranian people (Persian, Kurds, Azeri and others) but they did open the Iran border for Kurds during Saddam Hussein and before Saddam Hussein other wise Arab finished Kurds long time ago in Iraq. You and your PKK, Barzani masters must have been sleeping in the caves and in Tehran/Iran during that time.
You are saying
As to your assumption that Russians, Americans and Europeans will side with the Kurds when they have liberated the Iranians, note and understand:
The US is not interested in free sovereign countries in the region. The don't want a free democratic Iran, they want another client state that will carry out their instructions. Further, Kurds are not of any value for these powers because we are poor and powerless. They prefer to side with those that have something to offer them. For the americans and europeans, the turks can be mercenaries as nato-member; arabs are their oil supplier and cooperate for the safety of israel: DO YOU SEE HOW QUIET THEY ARE WHILE THE ISRAELIS ARE BOMBING FELLOW ARABS IN GAZA??? Russians too are no friend of Kurds! Russia provides the arabs and iranians with military equipment and political/diplomatic support, and in return the islamist guarantee not to send their terrorists into chechnya and russian territory. That's their deal and the russians won't change their strategy for powerless and poor Kurds who can't offer them anything.
The answer you are so wrong again
There are no boundaries in politics. You do not have to believe others. They do not believe you either. The mutual benefits will make friends not other way around. The Powers above you listed; they are working with Turks of Turkey, Islamic Shi’a of Iran, Islamic Shi’a of Iraq, and Arabs, communist Maoist China and others because they are in control of Oil, Raw material and businesses.
When PKK get along with the other Iranian and fight under the leadership of people through the real parliament; not KNK of PKK then the liberation are faster and have control of Iran oil and raw material and businesses. Yes you will see the cooperation’s of all those powers and even more than you listed above.
The separatist movements without hope of success in Kurdish struggle in Kurdistan are without friend because no one believes its success. That is the Kurdish leadership mistakes and your analysis too.
You are saying
The records are clear: It's in nobody's interest that we exist. When saddam was gassing us, none of these powers and no other country at the UN - except one single honourable delegation (the Swedish) - protested!
Our answers are clear above for this statement.
Kurds are saying
NO FRIENDS BUT THE MOUNTAINS!!!
Our answers are
These statements are outdated. The Mountains are not capable to protect us any more. The Kurds need to use brain now instead of Mountains.
The Turks of Turkey are very active with the elimination of 20-30 million Kurds in Turkey and Iran. They are going to take half of Iran to secure the Turks of Turkey connections with the Turkic countries in the former Soviet Union in both sides of the Caspian Sea. They are going to disconnect the Russian from the Persian people in small Iran then.
The Turks plans are logical to the lobbyist in the USA, EU and Israel because they are getting paid well to sale the idea to western Governments. They are pushing for this plan since the collapse of the Soviet Union. The plans are alerting Russians, Armenians, china and others who do not have interest in it and they are going to lose territories of Turkic speakers of their countries.
The windows are open for Kurds with brain to liberate Iran first and then stop the Turks ambitions in the land of Turks in Turkey area only. Indeed the Turks of Turkey are going to be in the middle of enemies as we said before. They are going to have a choice to be part of EU or join our AU as small and ineffective members.
Work on that with your articles. Wish us success in our quest to serve our families, Jaffs, Kurds and all other Eryan (Iranian) people for the real liberations.
We wish you happy new years again and productive work for the liberations of Iranian people.
Keep in touch.
Sincerily,
Jaff sassani
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by Jaff Sassani (17 articles, 0 quicklinks, 1 diaries, 90 comments) on Sunday, January 4, 2009 at 10:33:36 AM
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