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concheet
post 11/24/05 10:31 AM
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post 11/25/05 02:44 PM
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I beg your pardon???  Islamic fundamentalists? you're funny. haha! i'm laughing my a$$ off! you can't come up with something else than Islam this islam that.....why don't you admit that you hate muslims...you know i actually don't give a s**t  about your opinion,ohhh

Well, fine... maybe you have a better idea? Lets see:



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and about ''greater Turkey'' i have something to add to your ''investigation'', we are not trying to steal other lands and make it ''greater Turkey'', it's just an idea of getting turkic states together, because we were separated from each other...it's like seeing your familly after a long period of time. As secular states Azerbaijan and Turkey are following the Turkish Kemalist model, in Turkey it's because of Ataturk , in Azerbaijan it's been made possible by  ex-Soviet Union, so your ''fundamentalist' thing is nonsense!


First of all the analogy is flawed. It sounds very innocent and all, but you people can see each other just fine, without having to slaughter all the neighbors in between, or having to own all the land and dictate all the customs between you. I suspect it is because your neighbors are Christian that you figure it is perfectly alright to kill them or dictate to them. As for the rationalization that it is the fault of the ex-USSR, that sounds like another typical Islamic excuse for refusing to take responsibility for their own actions. You all sound like nasty little children, wanting for yourself and not caring who gets in your way...


ok concheet, wich part of the analogy is flawed? maybe you are blind or just ignorant, but i was talking about TURKIC states, states recognized by the whole WORLD like Azerbaijan, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan etc...understoood, the TURKIC states, and excusez-moi, slaughtering all the neighbours in between and having to ''own'' all the land ??? whaaahaaaaaa that's a good one, who's slaughtering who? and who's owning someones land?? lets take a look to azerbaijan wich crosses borders with 3 christian countries; Armenia, Georgia and Russia, so according to you we are owning and dictating these countries??? whahahah damn i never knew we had that much power!!! Russia is impossible to own, it's very logical to think about that, Georgia is a very good neighbour to us, so you are claiming that we have plans to kill them and own the country??? it leaves only one country wich we can't get along with, and that's of course Armenia, because we want our 20% occupied lands back!!!!Maybe this time you should do a better thinking about your SUSPICIONS!
Back to the Islamic fundamentalists thing, who said i was blaiming russia for modernizing Azerbaijan and making it secular?? ohh acoording to your ''suspicions'''i'm blaiming russia, because ''i'm a nasty child who is wanting for myself and not caring about who gets in my way'' maybe you should use your logical sense than your suspicions!!! and don't twist my words, i'm actually very thankful for russia for doing such a favour for my country, giving the possibility to use your knowledge rather religion.
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- concheet   It is all Pan-Turkism   11/24/05 10:31 AM
- - kurdistani   Re: It is all Pan-Turkism   11/24/05 11:29 AM
- - Dīrī   Re: It is all Pan-Turkism   11/24/05 12:44 PM
- - concheet   Yes that was my meaning, Diri... I have been inve...   11/24/05 03:01 PM
- - concheet   for example this post by BT: QUOTE(BIGTURK)Mordot...   11/24/05 03:06 PM
- - Persian   I have posted something about this: http://middle...   11/24/05 04:03 PM
- - Mordoth   TURAN ... The Idea of TURKISM ...   11/24/05 08:29 PM
- - Persian   Re: TURAN ... The Idea of TURKISM ...   11/24/05 09:24 PM
- - Yerevan   QUOTEFor more than 900 years the territory of mode...   11/24/05 09:25 PM
- - Yerevan   QUOTEFor more than 900 years the territory of mode...   11/24/05 09:26 PM
- - Mordoth   Turks have entered modern day Eastern Anatolia in ...   11/25/05 08:00 AM
- - Azertos   QUOTE(concheet)Yes that was my meaning, Diri... I...   11/25/05 08:04 AM
- - hanim   QUOTEIs it my imagination or are both Greek Cyprus...   11/25/05 08:12 AM
- - Azertos   Hanim, i agree with you on that, in azerbaijan no...   11/25/05 08:31 AM
- - Azertos   and hanim those pics aren't from azerbaijan nor tu...   11/25/05 08:38 AM
- - chase   QUOTE(concheet)Yes that was my meaning, Diri... I...   11/25/05 11:04 AM
- - concheet   QUOTE(Azertos)I beg your pardon??? Islamic fundam...   11/25/05 11:06 AM
- - chase   Quote: azeags- poster Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 3...   11/25/05 11:09 AM
- - concheet   QUOTEDo you kbow there is a big jewish community i...   11/25/05 11:17 AM
- - hanim   concheet, Im glad that you know how well jews are ...   11/25/05 01:34 PM
- - Yerevan   QUOTEand that's of course Armenia, because we want...   11/25/05 02:58 PM
- - hanim   QUOTE(Yerevan)QUOTEand that's of course Armenia, b...   11/25/05 03:13 PM
- - Persian   conni chon, don't you even dare connect Islam wit...   11/25/05 03:18 PM
- - Azertos   Come on Persian, do you really believe that conni ...   11/25/05 03:29 PM
- - Yerevan   QUOTEThats why it hasnt been recognised as indepen...   11/25/05 03:40 PM
- - Persian   QUOTE(Azertos)Come on Persian, do you really belie...   11/25/05 03:43 PM
- - chase   Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:45 pm Post subject: ...   11/25/05 05:53 PM
- - Mordoth   QUOTE(Persian)Pan-turks are no muslims, christians...   11/25/05 07:07 PM
- - concheet   If that is true, please explain why BIGTURK found ...   11/25/05 10:00 PM
- - Mordoth   QUOTE(concheet) Why does BIGTURK refer to the "Mus...   11/25/05 10:52 PM
- - PhilinFL   Mordoth alleged: <<Armenians started to clea...   11/25/05 11:21 PM
- - concheet   Mordoth: >>Armenians started to cleanse TURK...   11/26/05 12:14 AM
- - Azertos   QUOTE(concheet)If that is true, please explain why...   11/26/05 07:59 AM
- - Yerevan   QUOTE(concheet)Mordoth: >>Armenians started ...   11/26/05 11:41 AM
- - chase   QUOTE(Yerevan)QUOTE(concheet)Mordoth: >>Arme...   11/26/05 12:17 PM
- - BIGTURK   Oooooh the Ignorance is beginning to stink in this...   11/28/05 11:11 AM
- - concheet   I think I will stick to the 20th & 21st centur...   11/28/05 10:17 PM
- - Mordoth   www.ermeni-sorunu.gen.tr here see how ( by pionee...   11/29/05 01:18 AM
- - BIGTURK   QUOTECon-cheet I think I will stick to the 20th ...   11/29/05 12:47 PM
- - concheet   History is important Turk, but not your fanciful v...   11/29/05 06:57 PM
- - BIGTURK   This is getting more and more ridiculous as it goe...   11/29/05 08:55 PM
- - concheet   Right Turk, the old "Majority" situation. I under...   11/29/05 10:48 PM
- - BIGTURK   Goodness me, this really is getting unbelievable. ...   11/30/05 07:55 AM
- - concheet   QUOTEif we wish to form a Union and unite why do y...   11/30/05 10:09 AM
- - BIGTURK   QUOTECon-cheet have a big problem with that turke...   11/30/05 11:10 AM
- - Dīrī   Emrah... Don't YOU think it is a RASCIST thing t...   11/30/05 11:18 AM
- - BIGTURK   Diri I was just highlighting Con-cheets hypocrisis...   11/30/05 11:22 AM
- - Dīrī   Well... Don't YOU condemn saying something as RASC...   11/30/05 11:28 AM
- - chase   QUOTE(Dīrī)Well... Don't YOU condemn saying someth...   12/03/05 10:20 AM
- - Dīrī   QUOTE(chase)QUOTE(Dīrī)Well... Don't YOU condemn s...   12/03/05 11:34 AM
- - BIGTURK   QUOTEDiri You know... It is exactly that "we" ment...   03/07/06 07:06 AM
- - kurdistani   QUOTE(BIGTURK) Your the one who uses the "we" me...   03/13/06 12:23 AM
- - concheet   You hit that nail on the head, Kurdistani!   03/13/06 09:32 AM
- - Mordoth   I warned you to protect your head from external at...   03/30/06 08:50 AM
- - concheet   QUOTE(Mordoth)I warned you to protect your head fr...   03/30/06 10:36 AM
|- - Mordoth   QUOTE(concheet @ 03/30/06 11:36 AM) 79242...   06/29/06 02:59 PM
- - BIGTURK   QUOTEConsheet Turkey is just another backward Musl...   03/30/06 12:41 PM
- - Hosank   QUOTE(Mordoth @ 03/30/06 02:50 PM) 79230I...   03/18/07 12:15 PM
|- - Mordoth   QUOTE(Hosank @ 03/18/07 01:15 PM) 105485c...   03/19/07 08:04 PM
- - Hosank   no no, that evil will be too close to civilisation...   03/19/07 10:22 PM
|- - fremen   QUOTE(Hosank @ 03/19/07 11:22 PM) 105635n...   04/03/07 11:46 AM
- - Mordoth   All you refer as civil should be adjacent to the s...   03/28/07 08:21 PM
|- - davit   QUOTE(Mordoth @ 03/28/07 08:21 PM) 106104...   04/02/07 03:34 PM
- - Hosank   QUOTE" barbarism , whipcracking , lash-keepin...   03/28/07 09:04 PM
|- - Mordoth   QUOTE(Hosank @ 03/28/07 10:04 PM) 106109y...   04/02/07 03:01 PM
- - Hosank   well.. that's fine with me, see in my culture...   04/02/07 03:28 PM
- - Mordoth   QUOTEIslamic Anarchism Category: Religion and Phi...   04/04/07 02:50 PM
|- - fremen   Did not mean to hijack but just had a question tha...   04/04/07 10:03 PM
- - Hosank   islamo anarchism... hmm... there is such a thing a...   04/04/07 09:22 PM
- - Hosank   sure... but...islam is loosely based on some of t...   04/07/07 01:02 PM
|- - Mordoth   QUOTE(Hosank @ 04/07/07 02:02 PM) 106730s...   04/22/07 07:26 AM
- - Hosank   ex-muslim?? mordoth, i wish i could shake your ha...   04/22/07 10:18 AM
- - Mordoth   Hm , I do not think so . I've beaten many sec...   04/22/07 02:35 PM
|- - veritas   QUOTE(Mordoth @ 04/22/07 03:35 PM) 107561...   05/30/07 09:30 AM
- - Hosank   lol...a true turk   04/22/07 02:52 PM
- - Hosank   QUOTEEVERYONE hates communism , but armos . Commoz...   05/30/07 12:01 PM
|- - veritas   QUOTE(Hosank @ 05/30/07 01:01 PM) 110228t...   05/30/07 10:00 PM
- - JohnDoe   I'm afraid pan Turkism has already taken a hug...   08/01/07 07:20 PM
- - Hosank   i hope so too, but it does not seem to be happenin...   08/01/07 07:35 PM
- - gagauzian   Turkish speaking peoples all the world Yes, this ...   08/03/07 11:20 PM


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