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QUOTE(Persian) these sort of propaganda (pix taken from www.turan.org) are very reminicent on Nazi Third Reich propaganda parades and sports events. but i could be wrong.
Dont you have any Turan pictures to share?
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01/11/06 10:12 AM
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Karadox keep your racist trash to yourself, no were not Mongols we are Turks, we have similarities in the same way we have ties to other people, get out of your Shah Pahlavi mind of thinking.
Look at the images, there all different colours and complexions, it shows our diversity and how we settled in such vast geographical areas.
Maybe for people like you who believe in racial purity and Aryanism its hard to swallow but for Turks we love this diveristy it adds richness to our Millet and great people.
Look at these images from Eastern Turkestan, Uygur/Western China
Kizil Kiz Caves, ancient historical building from when we were Buddhist and of other faiths
Ancient paintings of Uygur Turks
Emin Mosque
Uygur Turk Dance
Woman making Yaprak/Sarma Dolma, Dolma was introduced to the middle east by Turks, Dolma = To fill , in Turkce
Uygur Turk March
MEIC EDIT: because large scale photo's ruin the board's lay-out linked instead of the foto itself -mv
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Family Meshrep dance
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[img]http://www.uygurworld.com/userfiles/sultan-satuk-bugra-hanopt.jpg[/img]
Sultan Satuk Bugra Khan hero of all Turks
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Are they so different to people in the Middle East region huh
QUOTE Now the have occupied Greek and Kurdish lands
1. We never in the history of humanity invaded a state called Kurdistan, a Kurdish State, a State run and ruled by Kurds. We never had a war or took any lands, therefore you using the word "occupy" shows that you dont understand the meaning of the word.
2. We had a war with the Byzantiums who were Eastern Roman, so if there is a problem Itallians can come and make claims.
3. Anatolia was not inhabitted by Greeks, there were Greek colonies at trading posts and cities on the coasts of the Seas. The nations that lived there were, Lydians, Lykians, Phygians, Hitites, Pechen and Kipchak Turks etc etc and it wasnt hearvily populated go and learn the history of Anatolia.
If you have nothing positive to say dont say it and dont come to our section and spread this nonsense thanks.
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01/11/06 10:27 AM
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Mongolic or not mongolic, we do look better than your people, incredible how gorgeous Turkic people are, Uzbeks, Kazakhs,Tatars, Azeris, Anatolian Turks, we have every type of Turks: white, yellow,Central Asian, Caucasian, Middle Eastern, European, I know how it hurts you, but hey this is the truth...you go and cry of jealousy....
MISS WORLD 2002
yeah fokin ironic isn't it.......
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01/11/06 11:20 AM
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Common man, every nation has ugly and beautiful people, that is a fact. It is possible that the beautiful lady you have posted has a Turkish, Kurdish, an Armenian, a Lazy, or a Greek, and maybe an Albanian, or Slavic roots. After the allies wiped out the Ottomans about 5 million Slavic people that were Muslims were kicked out of Balkans to Turkey. I assume that maybe at its maximum only 10 % of people living in the current turkey have "Turkish" roots. I know that the truth is bitter.
You never know the origin of the “turks” you meet in the streets of Istanbul. To meet real turks you have to take a trip to central Asia, that is a fact.
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01/11/06 01:19 PM
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Yepp true, every nation has indeed ugly and gorgeous people, but I'm speaking about the majority here...
QUOTE It is possible that the beautiful lady you have posted has a Turkish, Kurdish, an Armenian, a Lazy, or a Greek, and maybe an Albanian, or Slavic roots. .
how sad, I mean this is the classic case, .....so she has Kurdish, Greek, Armenian , Slavic roots now??? you know that isn't true, your response is pure racist, you put those nations to describe a Turk on purpose. , Nothing is wrong with those nations, every one of them has their own beauty, identity, ( I personally like Slavic people, they are very beautiful yummm  )
I think this picture says a lot about her identity, origin, her pride Turkiye, she is proudly waving the Turkish flag.
When it comes to Mongols, I know people like you are trying to ''insult'' to feel better (wich isn't an insult at all, sorry...I'm proud of what I am, I'm proud of Central Asian Turks, they are very polite,generous people, they have their unique identity, they are also my people, my nation, it doesn't matter if I don't look like them) So when it comes to describing a Turk non-Turkish if he/she doesn't look Central Asian I find that A total act of racism.
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01/11/06 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(Azertos) so she has Kurdish, Greek, Armenian , Slavic roots now??? you know that isn't true, your response is pure racist.
why are u censuring me , my list includes Turkish too
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01/11/06 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(Azertos) That's ok Kardox, if you say you are not a racist then I believe you, you just started a bit negative 
Problem solved  we are both divided people and we should have understanding for each other. We don’t have to agree on everything
have a nice day
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01/12/06 08:18 AM
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Hi Karadox, first I'd like to say Qurban Bayraminiz Mubarek Olsun
QUOTE Karadox
Where are all these millions of Kurds from? Were they dropped there from the air and suddenly were all over eastern Anatolia (Kurdistan)?
I never said Kurds never existed or that their all from Mountains in Iran so should get back to where they are from. When people call all Turks as Mongol they are indicating for us to move back to Mongolia which is ironic cos if you claim your people should stay where they are. I say the same to any Turk who tells the Kurds they should move back to Iran. Such arguments are pointless and ridiculous, were going nowhere we live together, its better to be good neighbours then bad ones  .
Kurds in Anatolia migrated there, Turks from Anatolia migrated there, none of us were put on Earth into Anatolia, there were Proto-Turk and Kurd migrations since BC however, as Muslim Turks and Kurds the battle of Malazgirit was a decisive battle which opened up the whole of Anatolia to both our people.
QUOTE Karadox
I thought that you were proud of the Mongols, like Changiz and Teymore, Have I missed something? Some Turks even say that Attila the Hun was a Turk, so what’s wrong with having Mongols as ancestors?
Were very proud of mixinig with Mongols, Cengiz was Mongol but had many Turk tribes with him and let them live in their areas like the Uygurs who became their scribes.
Timur was a Turk, people sometimes mix things up because he said like all leaders of that time who wanted to be powerfull, I am a Son of the Great Cengiz, this is a metaphor of power yet some have confused it for geneological evidence. Timur spoke Turkce and in his writtings wrote his Turk tribe and his area and forces were Turk.
Atilla the Hun was a Hun Turk not a Mongol, the Huns had an ancient Empire in the East before 1000bc and had leaders like Mete Kaan and others and became semi-Nomadic.
QUOTE Karadox
Common man, every nation has ugly and beautiful people, that is a fact. It is possible that the beautiful lady you have posted has a Turkish, Kurdish, an Armenian, a Lazy, or a Greek, and maybe an Albanian, or Slavic roots. After the allies wiped out the Ottomans about 5 million Slavic people that were Muslims were kicked out of Balkans to Turkey. I assume that maybe at its maximum only 10 % of people living in the current turkey have \"Turkish\" roots. I know that the truth is bitter.
Firstly, the bit about 5 million Slavic is incredibly wrong. There were over 5 million refugess yes but were these Slavs, No. The people who fled to Turkiye werent just from Balkans they were also from the Kafkas and Central Asia this is what alot of people look over.
Secondly, some Boshnaks are Slavic yes and any Muslims who were originally Slavs like Serbians etc. However, huge Turk tribes settled in the Balkans another fact people like to overlook, so many people had mixed with Turks and had as much Turk as Slav and due to the concept of Pax Ottoman would percieve themselves to be true Turks.
QUOTE This “success” can be explained by “pax ottomana”. It must be emphasised that “pax” means here political and ethnic stability. Except some turbulent periods, the Ottoman Empire managed to provide to the Balkans a supra-identity, namely the Ottoman identity, which was hard to demolish even after the rise of the nationalism during the 19th century.
During the Ottoman reign, thousands of Bosnians, Albanians, Pomaks and Roma Gypsies were converted to Islam by their free will. They accepted Islam in order to be integrated into the predominant nation, Turks, and also to have the Ottoman protection against Christian Serbians and Bulgarians. These Balkan Muslims ethnically are not Turks. They speak the same languages as Serbians and Bulgarians. However they feel themselves closer to Turks than to their Slav kinsmen because of their religion. Moreover throughout history and still today, Serbians diffuse the image of a monolithic Muslim community whereas they demolish the unity of Orthodox Christianity in the Balkans in the name of nationalist ideals. Turk, Pomak (a Muslim Bulgarian), Bosnian (a Slav Muslim) or Goranci (a Slav Muslim connected to Pomaks and Torbs of Macedonia), for Serbians they are all “Turks”. Therefore, today Turkey is not only responsible for a couple of millions of Balkan Turks, but also for almost 10 millions of Balkan Muslims whatever their ethnic origin may be. This is the historical responsibility of Turkey.
The psychological affection of Balkan Muslims towards Turkey is still alive. Kosovo Roma Gypsies still protect the banner (sancak) confined to them by the Ottoman Sultan as a reward of their loyalty and courage in war times. During demonstrations in Belgrade in 1997, some carried banners with slogans like “Where are the days under Ottoman reign” on them. The intense affection showed to the Kosovo Turkish Battalion Task Force surprised foreign observers and journalists at that time. Every official visit from Turkey provokes great enthusiasm in Kosovo. For many Muslim Albanians, Turkish is a second language. Ottoman marks are imprinted on their wedding feasts and other festivities. Ironically, they remain more loyal to the Ottoman memory than Turkey itself. Prizren has every quality to be a perfect model for an Ottoman city.
Kosovo Turks take great care to hold their political and economic relations with Turkey at the highest, and follow every evolution in Turkey. Especially Prizren has intense commercial and social relations with Turkey. Almost every family member has a relative in Turkey.
So far Turkey participated in
KFOR, UNMIK and OSCE missions with soldiers, police agents and specialists in order to contribute to the security and stability in Kosovo. Turkish troops not only perform security missions, but humanitarian missions as well, including building schools and roads, restoring historical buildings, healthcare and social work. The Turkish presence in Kosovo is very visible.
In addition, Albanians and Kosovans are not Slavic people's, they have more connection to Turks then Slavs look at their original migration area
So when you speak of Albanian and Kosovan they were not Slavs and many Turk tribes had mixed with them and when they entered Anatolia during the terrible periods before WW1 they became very Nationalist Turks. The Boshnaks were Slavic and Turk Muslim tribes, the Macedons were Macedons and from Greece and Bulgaria well today Western Thrace is majority Turk and Bulgaria has over 1 MILLION Turks are they Bulgarian or Slavic I think not
Moving onto the next point
Again your wildly mistaken by what Turks look like and can look like, there is a Turk look, its not Chinease or Mongol its Turk, slightly Chinease eyes, different skin complexions, distinct fashion and dress etc etc.
Kilim seller, Kilims are made across the Turk world and are today world famous rugs and carpets.
More tradditional dress.
Turkmen woman, not too different is she
Typical girls from Turkmenistan, they have a Turk look about them as you can see its not different to other Turks really is it  , you could see these in Azerbeycan, Turkiye, Ozbekistan etc and they'd fit right in.
Turkmen dances at Ashgabat
Turkmen musicians
Turkmenistan is today is a very beautiful place to visit.
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Turkmenistan has the largest fountain in the world
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Turkmen rider
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01/24/06 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(Dîrî) QUOTE(Iranian) Don't be stupid Dîrî this stance may appear similar but if you watch it and know about Turkish and Kurdhish culture you will see that it is totally different. I guess you need to be aware of these sorts of things...
Your speaking in riddles... But you know what is worse? You are damn rude... Sorry, but that type of language is just not pleasent... It does however reveal the person uttering them...
If I offended you I apologize.
That said clearly Kurdish and Turkish Culture is different surely you of all people can see this.
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01/24/06 01:42 PM
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[b] COMMUNIST CHINA'S POLICY OF OPPRESSION IN
EAST TURKESTAN by Harun Yahya
Its a .pdf file but you need to unzip it first.
http://api.fmanager.net/api_v1/xmlapi.php?...d=file,id=13710 (for those of you who don't have broadband this might take awhile(its about 5.9 megs))
Its got alot on their history and their oppression. I give it 10 out of 10.
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01/24/06 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(Iranian) QUOTE(Dîrî) QUOTE(Iranian) Don't be stupid Dîrî this stance may appear similar but if you watch it and know about Turkish and Kurdhish culture you will see that it is totally different. I guess you need to be aware of these sorts of things...
Your speaking in riddles... But you know what is worse? You are damn rude... Sorry, but that type of language is just not pleasent... It does however reveal the person uttering them...
If I offended you I apologize.
That said clearly Kurdish and Turkish Culture is different surely you of all people can see this.
Apology accepted.
Kurdish and Turkish culture are different. And that is an important fact often omitted from the larger picture...
Yes, I can see it - and I have been trying to tell people like Emrah that simple fact. Kurds and Turks have different mentalities, priorities and different way of showing faith, love, respect, honor etc... Kurdish culture is "similar" to Turkish culture if you compare it to English culture - but compare Kurdish and Turkish to eachother and you'll find that Kurdish culture is more conservative, traditional, collective, etc... Turkish culture is more secular than Kurdish, it is more westernized and the values and norms in Istanbul, Antalya, Izmir and Ankara collide with those of Amed, Qamishlo, Hewlêr and Sine...
What we do share is that in both cultures you will find every sort of community - from the tribal to the individualist to the gay and the Islamist to the atheist... Which is quite normal in any society...
I need not go into the smaller details... But they are there and I could point them out for you...
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01/24/06 06:29 PM
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Manavgat, Antalya
Manavgat, Antalya
Patara, Antalya
Saklikent, Antalya
Hasankeyf, Batman
Deliller Inn - Diyarbakir
Yedi Kardes Turret-City Walls - Diyarbakir
Halil Rahman Mosque - Urfa
Nemrut, Adiyaman
all these pictures from http://www.balsoy.com/
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01/25/06 10:05 AM
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wowwww.....Turkey looks goooooooood.... I'm going to visit Turkey this year (I hope)
this picture is truly amazing.....what an architecture... DAMN
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/9663/ba...bahcebig9xx.jpg
isnt this the 'Aya Sofya'????........ it is gorgeoussssssss
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/7281/sina...que154825ut.jpg
QUOTE mv
This one is as weird as it is marvelous. Never seen anything like it.
Btw, the site that it's from says it's not in Turkmenistan but in Uzbekistan, yet a turkmen mosque indeed.
Plenty of great pictures where this one came from. ( http://www.giantorange.com/uzbek see: archives )
It's amazing how the entire Middleeast is sawed with the most awesome architecture. It should be heaven .
Yeahh...it is indeed weird... cute in a weird kind of way
I personally never saw anything like this, the Mosque is definitely Middle Eastern, but the country is Central Asian, and thank you for the link, if you dont mind , I'm gonnna post some of those pictures.
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QUOTE(Mordoth @ 04/11/07 06:43 PM) [snapback]106961[/snapback] The unique truth to be spoken and interpreted can be TURAN for a PAN TURK .
Problems of M.East are caused by the invaders from thousands of miles away . These are nothing more than redundant details to demoralize our people.
There is no Truth but the TURAN , no Ruler or God but the TURKS . It is very funny to see real Turks from Central Asia who look like Mongolians and the so called Turks from Turkey who look like a mix of European and Arabic  When I had dinner in a Persian restaurant recently a Turk who was eating there told the Mongolian waitress that Turks and mongolians are related and that Turks are the sons of Oguz and and and.... Mongolian guy said no you cannot be a Turk because Ottomans got mixed with Europeans and Arabs when they had war. He said that Turks from Turkey have a different look and cannot be real Turkic. Besides the religion (Islam) and Turkish language which is a mix of Turkmen, Persian and esspecially Arabic Turks from Central Asia and so called Turks from Turkey have not much in common.
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04/16/07 04:51 AM
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QUOTE(Jam @ 04/12/07 02:16 AM) [snapback]106983[/snapback] It is very funny to see real Turks from Central Asia who look like Mongolians and the so called Turks from Turkey who look like a mix of European and Arabic  When I had dinner in a Persian restaurant recently a Turk who was eating there told the Mongolian waitress that Turks and mongolians are related and that Turks are the sons of Oguz and and and.... Mongolian guy said no you cannot be a Turk because Ottomans got mixed with Europeans and Arabs when they had war. He said that Turks from Turkey have a different look and cannot be real Turkic. Besides the religion (Islam) and Turkish language which is a mix of Turkmen, Persian and esspecially Arabic Turks from Central Asia and so called Turks from Turkey have not much in common. Cem ; it 'd be good for you to define who zazas are ( but in a different topic ) Defining a Turk due to his/her sight is a stupid effort . Evaluating me with my Phenotype , is a complete-foolishness . Turk are related with Mongolians so the Koreans , Magyars ( Hungarians ) , Fins ( Finnish ) , Bosniaks ( Bosnians) , Samis of Lappland ...etc I 'm proud of being one ; thank you . There are many tribes of Turks , Oghuz Kaghan was one of them . There are 13 more . There are 6000 words of Arabic , 3500 words in PErsian many of their meanings were diffracted and shifted . But there are 3000 Turkic words in Arabic and Persian . So , no Turk can understand what Iranic said ...etc Turks are still TURKs , but frankly , Muslim Roman Empire was a foolish one to be found . It combined Turk-Arabic-Farısi civilizations . ThaT 'S why , Turks in Anatolia many words of foreign languages . BUT EVERY LANGUAGE HAS A TURKISH NATURE WITHIN ITSELF
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04/18/07 02:57 PM
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lol...some pretty sexy uzbeki chicks there...heheh  i would love to bang them and, that miss turkey girl clearly isn't ethnically turkish..she does not have any turannic features.. turk, you are egocentric, you can talk so much against every nation, yet you cannot believe in your own vices... but yah, im glad you are getting a taste of your original roots, now you can all go back to them together, give the real inhabitants of europe, anatolia and the caucasus their lands back..take the chechens with you plz...
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05/01/07 11:31 AM
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wow dude! how could you post the hagia sophia as turkish architecture?? The building was built under the personal supervision of Emperor Justinian I and dedicated on December 27, 537. this was way before the turks started migrating westward. and get this: After the great earthquake in 989, which ruined the dome of St Sophia, the Byzantine government sent for the Armenian architect Tirdat, creator of the great churches of Ani and Agine, to repair the dome. what is ani now?? oh yeah, kurdish pastureland after being razed by turkish armies. anyhow, it is disipointing to see that you claim ancient byzantine churches as your own creations and mosques. Also this is quite comparable to nazi germany. did they not envision a huge pan-aryan empire, quite like your pan turkish empire. also that big rally was comparable to early nazi rallies of 1939. also this is quite show of extremist nationalism here. people like the armenians and kurds just want their homelands back, but the turks want to grab it all for themselves. also your turanic (sounds like tyrannic, hmm...) will never work from russian and chinese (more so russian) opposition, and possibly, european and american intervention if all the peace and equal rights groups lobby enough. sorry to smash your racist dreams.
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05/01/07 05:44 PM
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QUOTE(intergalacticman @ 05/01/07 12:31 PM) [snapback]108358[/snapback] wow dude! how could you post the hagia sophia as turkish architecture?? The building was built under the personal supervision of Emperor Justinian I and dedicated on December 27, 537. this was way before the turks started migrating westward. and get this: After the great earthquake in 989, which ruined the dome of St Sophia, the Byzantine government sent for the Armenian architect Tirdat, creator of the great churches of Ani and Agine, to repair the dome. what is ani now?? oh yeah, kurdish pastureland after being razed by turkish armies. anyhow, it is disipointing to see that you claim ancient byzantine churches as your own creations and mosques. Also this is quite comparable to nazi germany. did they not envision a huge pan-aryan empire, quite like your pan turkish empire. also that big rally was comparable to early nazi rallies of 1939. also this is quite show of extremist nationalism here. people like the armenians and kurds just want their homelands back, but the turks want to grab it all for themselves. also your turanic (sounds like tyrannic, hmm...) will never work from russian and chinese (more so russian) opposition, and possibly, european and american intervention if all the peace and equal rights groups lobby enough. sorry to smash your racist dreams. Well , Haghia Sophia was not a tough building at all . It was about to collapse for several times and before the conquest of Istanbul ; Turks have sent architects and artisans to supply the basement of the building , and 4 columns were built to keep the structure at rest . ( Now , there are 4 minarets built on those columns ) Mosque of Sultanahmet is much more " Grotesque and Wondrous " than Ayasofya . ( Sultanahmet Mosque is a little bit younger than the modernized Ayasofya ) Turks were repairing the structure and dome in a decade . bTW ; there is no extra-nationalism here . You show what specimen you belong to everyday . Claiming the lands of Turks is one of Armenian extremism . If you treat extremist by neglecting the starving "country" of yours , you'll be replied with nothing but MERCY .   Quite similar ?
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QUOTE(Mordoth @ 05/01/07 05:44 PM) [snapback]108385[/snapback] Well , Haghia Sophia was not a tough building at all . It was about to collapse for several times and before the conquest of Istanbul ; Turks have sent architects and artisans to supply the basement of the building , and 4 columns were built to keep the structure at rest . ( Now , there are 4 minarets built on those columns ) Mosque of Sultanahmet is much more " Grotesque and Wondrous " than Ayasofya . ( Sultanahmet Mosque is a little bit younger than the modernized Ayasofya ) Turks were repairing the structure and dome in a decade . bTW ; there is no extra-nationalism here . You show what specimen you belong to everyday . Claiming the lands of Turks is one of Armenian extremism . If you treat extremist by neglecting the starving "country" of yours , you'll be replied with nothing but MERCY .   Quite similar ? LOL you got those from tallarmeniantale.com wowoowow. Thats like the stupidest website there is. Its just a picture of some people, how do you know they are Armenians? Mordoth you are so stupid...
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