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Rumtaya
post 06/02/06 01:34 AM
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May 30, 06

In mid may the Assyrian Democratic Movement held a meeting in Baghdad to discuss the overall political situation in Iraq, specifically the state of the Assyrians including; 'Chaldean and Syriacs', in that country. During the last elections despite efforts by the KDP against it, the Assyrian Democratic Party won enough votes to represent the christians in the parliament. However The Kurdish Regional Government in northern Iraq has refused to recognize and work with it, instead it has appointed unelected individuals who are members of the Kurdish Democratic Party who are identified as 'Christian Officials' to function as the leaders and representatives of the Assyrian Christians. With their help the KDP plans to dominate the community and do with it as it pleases. In previous elections it prevented the Assyrian inhabitants of several towns from exercising their voting rights and terrorized the community when it protested. Kurds clearly do not have the best interest of the Christians of Iraq, their actions during the last few years have proven this. Unless more attention is paid by the outside world to the plight of the Assyrians in Iraq they will continue to suffer.

The leaders of the Kurdish Regional Government (KRG) led by Masoud Barzani, backed by the Kurdish Democratic Party militia, (KDP), justify their actions against the Assyrian Democratic Party by accusing it of being racist because in their words; "it stands against the rights and aspirations of the Kurdish people." How can the Assyrian Democratic party who has no militia, financial, or political power stand "against the rights and aspirations of the Kurdish people", especially when Kurdish Regional Government, and its aspirations are backed and supported by a well armed 80,000 men Kurdish militia and controls most financial resources in northern Iraq. Kurds already dominate the region militarily, and economically and have imposed their will on others, Their authority has been acknowledged by the Iraqi government, and play an important role in that country's politics. What else do they want? The enslavement of the non Kurds?.

Evidently asking for equal rights by the non-Kurds is considered racist by the Kurdish government and its KDP militia, masquerading as a political party. Treating others as enemies and fabricating false accusations against them is how the world famous dictators justified their atrocities against others.

The following news article written by a Kurdish journalist shows that Kurds are in conflicts not only with non-Kurds in northern Iraq also with Turkey and Iran. Such adventurism could easily spin out of control and have tragic consequences for all involved.


Residents in North Unite Against Sectarian Conflict

May 27, 06

SULAIMANIYA (IRIN) -- Kurds, Turcomans and Christians from northern Iraq have established independent organizations that aims to reduce the influence of sectarian militias operating in the area.

[note; While other ethnic groups in northern Iraq are identified by their correct name there seems to be a policy not to mention the Assyrians, instead they are called Christians. Why discriminate against them? Equal treatment requires they, like others, be recognized by their ethnic identity rather than their religion. Refusal to do so can be interpreted as an attempt to not acknowledge their existence to make it easier for the Kurds to dispossess them of their identity and rights. Why not refer to the Kurds and Turkomen as Muslims if it is proper to identify Assyrians by their religion,?]

Two of the organizations are the mixed Peace Union for Iraqis(PUI) and the Kurdish Autonomous Freedom Organization (KAFO).

"Iraqis in the region have begun to unite, without consideration of ethnic background, to prevent sectarian violence from spreading," said PUI member Dorah Muhammad, 38, from a village in northern Kurdistan near the Turkish border. "And we're asking the government to take action to clamp down on the militias."

The newly-formed organizations, whose members include politicians and civil society activists, aim to inform the public that ethnic strife will only serve to delay national unification and development. One way they hope to do this is by reaching out to school children by offering lessons and presentations on human rights and coexistence.

[ The fact that this organization will teach the Children rather than the militias and their leaders abut how to prevent ethnic strife means it takes the easy way out so that it will not antagonize anyone. How can school children reduce ethnic strife in northern Iraq when confronted by well armed militias determent to impose their will on others. Such democratic lessons should be taught to the leaders of the Kurdish Regional Government who are chieftains of the KDP the most powerful militia in the region. They should be asked to honor the "rights and aspirations" of the non-Kurd minorities. Given the KRG tendency to consider any request for rights by non-Kurds as "racist and against the rights and aspirations of the Kurdish people" one has to wonder if they are willing to listen to reason.]

The initiatives come in the wake of recent fighting on the Turkish side of the border between the Turkish military and dissident Kurdish groups. "Militias have hijacked the peace ever since they began fighting across the border with the Turkish Army, which is looking to protect itself from insurgents inside Iraq," said Dorah. "In the end, though, this only caused more internal conflict."

The Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) is working in partnership with the local community on the issue, in an effort to prevent an escalation of sectarian violence between Iraqi Kurds and ethnic Arabs. "We will not allow ethnic differences to destroy security in Kurdistan," said senior KRG official Kalif Dirar. "And we'll do whatever is required to continue being the safest place in this country."


[ Kurdistan is a new name which Kurds have imposed on northern Iraq. Kurdish Regional Government can easily prevent such conflicts by refraining to deprive the non-Kurds from their equal rights, land , and stop treating them as uninvited guests in their own land.]

According to Dirar, the semi-autonomous Kurdistan government is working with residents to disband the militias currently contributing to the tension on the borders with Iran and Turkey. "The local people are aware of the dangers of sectarian differences,"

[ The author fails to mention that these militias are Kurds who want to expand Kurdish rule to Turkey and Iran, perhaps even syria. While Kurds have a tendency to call wherever they live as Kurdistan they tend to do it at the espnse of the none Kurds who have lived there long before them.] "

Many Sunni and Shi'ite Arabs in Kurdistan [northern Iraq] have also joined the cause. In the northern city of Kirkuk, however, such proposals have met with less success, due to ethnic tension arising from the outstanding land disputes that resulted from the "Arabisation" pogrom of former president Saddam Hussain.

[Now that Saddam's Arabization no longer exist, and Kurds have succeeded to drive out thousands of Arabs out of Kirkuk, the Barzai's Kurdification has taken its place. According to the latest news reports Kurds are planning to force Mosul under their control just as they did with Kirkuk. In reality US has removed one authoritarian regime in Iraq but has replaced it with another, and has no power nor inclination of stopping the KRG from oppressing others, because it needs the help of the Kurdish militia to deal with insurgency.]
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This should be moved to the main section, so everyone could see. Slowly the Kurds will be exposed for what they truly are. They're the new dictators, with their Kurd language replacing the Arabic...regardless, both are foreign to Assyrians and Assyria.
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QUOTE(AssyrianAnvil @ 06/07/06 11:25 PM) [snapback]83744[/snapback]

This should be moved to the main section, so everyone could see. Slowly the Kurds will be exposed for what they truly are. They're the new dictators, with their Kurd language replacing the Arabic...regardless, both are foreign to Assyrians and Assyria.

Assyrians have the right to Assyrian language education in Kurdistan... something no Iraqi government ever offered... It is a positive atmsphere...
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Ya but you kurds are taking our land.
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QUOTE(AssyrianKing19 @ 08/04/06 01:06 PM) [snapback]87157[/snapback]

Ya but you kurds are taking our land.

Is there any independent evidence the show that... i.e not from the Baathis at AINA?

If that is happening of course i am against that... but I don't think it is...
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Where do you think the Assyrian homeland is?
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QUOTE(AssyrianKing19 @ 08/09/06 01:20 PM) [snapback]87642[/snapback]

Where do you think the Assyrian homeland is?

Wherever Assyrians live....

Seriously.... do u thing trying to kick out the Kurds from Arbil will be the fist step to an Asssyrian state?
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You guys can have Arbil. North Ninawa is ours. That is it and I'll be happy.

Info on Arbil-

The city was in ancent Assyrian. It had 4 temples. So they call the city Arbil. In Assyrian its short for 4 gods.

NOT WHAT EVER YOU KURDS THINK IT MEANS
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QUOTE(AssyrianKing19 @ 08/11/06 11:49 PM) [snapback]87978[/snapback]

You guys can have Arbil. North Ninawa is ours. That is it and I'll be happy.

Info on Arbil-

The city was in ancent Assyrian. It had 4 temples. So they call the city Arbil. In Assyrian its short for 4 gods.

NOT WHAT EVER YOU KURDS THINK IT MEANS


Arabeeloo means four gate ways i thought...

Kurds know the Assyrian origin of the city well... I once asked an English class to write reports on the history of Arbil... they all said Arbil came for Assyrian - four gates...

Of course in Kurdish people say Hewler.... smiley15.gif

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Do you agree that we sould have north ninawa or what????? A that means you Kurdistani.
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QUOTE(AssyrianKing19 @ 08/13/06 02:31 PM) [snapback]88240[/snapback]

Do you agree that we sould have north ninawa or what????? A that means you Kurdistani.

If you are the democratic majority and the people of the region what to establish an Assyrian region there.. then why not? It is not up to me... it is up to the people of that region...
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The area I want has an Assyrian majority. Its small. But the area doesnt that many people. Some thing like over 500,000 Assyrians. But around Iraq we are 1,000,000. In Syria we over 800,000. In Turkey and Iran put together there is almost 50,000. So if 1,850,000 and not include the 1,000,000 around the world who most would want to come home(still growing). SO WE ALL WANT A Assyrian REGIONAL GOVERMENT. Just kurdish poeple do with your KRG we ARG. By the way Kurdistani Iran give rights to Assyrian people as well the KRG. Look I dont understand why we dont help each other. Why doesnt the ADM help the KDP and likewise? So we both get what we want. Do you think this is a good idea?
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QUOTE(AssyrianKing19 @ 08/17/06 04:44 PM) [snapback]88703[/snapback]

The area I want has an Assyrian majority. Its small. But the area doesnt that many people. Some thing like over 500,000 Assyrians. But around Iraq we are 1,000,000. In Syria we over 800,000. In Turkey and Iran put together there is almost 50,000. So if 1,850,000 and not include the 1,000,000 around the world who most would want to come home(still growing). SO WE ALL WANT A Assyrian REGIONAL GOVERMENT. Just kurdish poeple do with your KRG we ARG. By the way Kurdistani Iran give rights to Assyrian people as well the KRG. Look I dont understand why we dont help each other. Why doesnt the ADM help the KDP and likewise? So we both get what we want. Do you think this is a good idea?

Why not... so long as the rights of non-Assyrians in the ARG are protected... and so long as people that live in the area legitimately are not forced out....
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Why would we force anyone out? We are not against anyone as long as there not against us! The future ARG would treat everyone with respect! We not like the early KRG that force Assyrian, Yedis, and Arabs out of the kurdish areas!
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QUOTE(AssyrianKing19 @ 08/19/06 01:28 AM) [snapback]88813[/snapback]

Why would we force anyone out? We are not against anyone as long as there not against us! The future ARG would treat everyone with respect! We not like the early KRG that force Assyrian, Yedis, and Arabs out of the kurdish areas!

The KRG does not to that... there is a net immigration of Christians into the KRG... and of Arabs... and if you go to Irbil you will see that Yedzis run the hotel business
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Not what I heard.
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QUOTE(AssyrianKing19 @ 08/19/06 07:01 PM) [snapback]88916[/snapback]

Not what I heard.


Well you heard wrong.... I am not saying all Kurds act with the respect they should have towards the Assyrian people... but if I was you I would go on more than what I have 'heard'.... Check these articles out...

http://www.antiwar.com/glantz/?articleid=4770

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...08/ixworld.html

http://www.aina.org/news/20060630110317.htm

http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp...s+flee+fighting
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There is no Kurdish regional government .
There is a unified iraq , as it was before , kurds can just assert so-called right and dictate the territory in a scheria-order.
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There is no Kurdish regional government .
There is a unified iraq , as it was before , kurds can just assert so-called right and dictate the territory in a scheria-order.


Merhab Arkadas,

I have one question, why isnt Turkey suppourting Assyrians? I mean wold the Turks befenfit more from an Assyria(which is the only right area describtion of northern Iraq) than from a Kurdish State on Assyria´s soil?


Assyrians have the Problem, that our population is not big and it is becoming more less, because of terror acts from Arabs and Kurds.

And what are your thoughts on an Assyrian State then.

Please answer me the questions.

Thanks and durun ime icon_mrgreen.gif
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QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 08/31/06 07:24 AM) [snapback]90043[/snapback]

Merhab Arkadas,

I have one question, why isnt Turkey suppourting Assyrians? I mean wold the Turks befenfit more from an Assyria(which is the only right area describtion of northern Iraq) than from a Kurdish State on Assyria´s soil?
Assyrians have the Problem, that our population is not big and it is becoming more less, because of terror acts from Arabs and Kurds.

And what are your thoughts on an Assyrian State then.

Please answer me the questions.

Thanks and durun ime icon_mrgreen.gif

So let the Turks destroy the Kurdish region which hundreds of proud Assyrians fought for?
Terror acts are not done by Kurds.
The Kurds are being targeteed by terrorists.
And the Kurds are protecting themselves in their region.

While thousands of Assyrians have fled Baghdad and came to Kurdish region for safety.
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QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 08/31/06 07:24 AM) [snapback]90043[/snapback]

Merhab Arkadas,

I have one question, why isnt Turkey suppourting Assyrians? I mean wold the Turks befenfit more from an Assyria(which is the only right area describtion of northern Iraq) than from a Kurdish State on Assyria´s soil?
Assyrians have the Problem, that our population is not big and it is becoming more less, because of terror acts from Arabs and Kurds.

And what are your thoughts on an Assyrian State then.

Please answer me the questions.

Thanks and durun ime icon_mrgreen.gif
Sana da Merhab Arkadas icon_smile.gif
I really prefer 1 Christian Assyrian instead of a thousand Muslim Kurds , 'cuz i know Assyrians are warm-blooded-reasonable and culturally felt the oath ...
Modern Day Turkiye ,welcomes Assyrian brothers and the Syriac immigrants who have gone to Europe to make money, are returning back to their homelands and started to make some investments.
However, PKK did not let them to live with their free-will , and they're threathening the new-found villages (in Assyrian architecture-style) Are threathened to be bombed .
I support assyria rather than a monkie-european dependant Kurdsatan .
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QUOTE(Mordoth @ 09/02/06 11:21 AM) [snapback]90345[/snapback]

Sana da Merhab Arkadas icon_smile.gif
I really prefer 1 Christian Assyrian instead of a thousand Muslim Kurds , 'cuz i know Assyrians are warm-blooded-reasonable and culturally felt the oath ...
Modern Day Turkiye ,welcomes Assyrian brothers and the Syriac immigrants who have gone to Europe to make money, are returning back to their homelands and started to make some investments.
However, PKK did not let them to live with their free-will , and they're threathening the new-found villages (in Assyrian architecture-style) Are threathened to be bombed .
I support assyria rather than a monkie-european dependant Kurdsatan .



I hope really, that Turkey is doing something to resselte the Assyrians who fleed mostly because of PKK-Turkey war.

The ear of Tur Abdin is a very very important area for our christian time, because we have alot of old monsteries and churches there.



QUOTE(Rumtaya @ 09/02/06 11:42 AM) [snapback]90347[/snapback]

I hope really, that Turkey is doing something to resselte the Assyrians who fleed mostly because of PKK-Turkey war.

The area of Tur Abdin is a very very important area for our christian time, because we have alot of old monsteries and churches there.


here is the area i mean

IPB Image

maybe more then 300 000 Assyrian Christians belong to this area unforutnataly there are less then 20 000
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When i was in Midyat ; the jewellers were dominantly Syriacs and they 're told that their relatives 've migrated to Europe because of lack of economical conditions .
Anyway ; there are almost 3 million -+ Turk in Germany , Holland ...etc
Do not trouble my friend , those people are returning to their homelands and placed little investments of themselves and they can speak Turkish too icon_biggrin.gif
I prefer Assyria-Turkmen collaboration than a fascist-surpressing Kurdish authority .
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QUOTE(Mordoth @ 09/02/06 05:25 AM) [snapback]90355[/snapback]

I prefer Assyria-Turkmen collaboration than a fascist-surpressing Kurdish authority .


Too bad for you, most Turkmens support the Kurdish government instead of the Turkish government.
And same goes for many Assyrians, when you deny that you have commited a genocide on them.
Maybe we participated too, but at least we admit it.
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Keep smiling indulgent Kurd . When US 'll be kicked off , we 'll re-consider the faith of Kurds .
Detoriation or Still-Standing in ALASKA.
Kurds have to go to Alaska, and they've to be as far as possible from Islamic states .
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QUOTE(Mordoth @ 09/02/06 12:01 PM) [snapback]90377[/snapback]

Keep smiling indulgent Kurd . When US 'll be kicked off , we 'll re-consider the faith of Kurds .
Detoriation or Still-Standing in ALASKA.
Kurds have to go to Alaska, and they've to be as far as possible from Islamic states .


###### your islamic states icon_twisted.gif
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QUOTE(Mordoth @ 09/02/06 07:01 AM) [snapback]90377[/snapback]

Keep smiling indulgent Kurd . When US 'll be kicked off , we 'll re-consider the faith of Kurds .
Detoriation or Still-Standing in ALASKA.
Kurds have to go to Alaska, and they've to be as far as possible from Islamic states .



Islamix states want Turks and Turkey to go to mongolia, Turks have given Islam the worst name. Turkey asks for whores from Russia to have a better economy. Istanbul is sex-corner #1 in Asia.
You can kiss the ###### of the USA, we dont need USA, we are not afraid for a bunch of displaced chinese mongrel-f,U,cked haired Turks. You will be our slave once, go and help your sister in your doner kebab shop, shes getting nailed by Germans icon_lol.gif
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Islamix states want Turks and Turkey to go to mongolia, Turks have given Islam the worst name. Turkey asks for whores from Russia to have a better economy. Istanbul is sex-corner #1 in Asia.
You can kiss the ###### of the USA, we dont need USA, we are not afraid for a bunch of displaced chinese mongrel-f,U,cked haired Turks. You will be our slave once, go and help your sister in your doner kebab shop, shes getting nailed by Germans icon_lol.gif


Damn! icon_eek.gif Thanks! Sipasssss birayê delal! Hahahaha icon_lol.gif
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Keep smiling indulgent Kurd . When US 'll be kicked off , we 'll re-consider the faith of Kurds .
Detoriation or Still-Standing in ALASKA.
Kurds have to go to Alaska, and they've to be as far as possible from Islamic states .


HAHAHAH
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QUOTE(Kurd-BOSS @ 09/02/06 01:41 PM) [snapback]90415[/snapback]
Islamix states want Turks and Turkey to go to mongolia, Turks have given Islam the worst name. Turkey asks for whores from Russia to have a better economy. Istanbul is sex-corner #1 in Asia.
You can kiss the ###### of the USA, we dont need USA, we are not afraid for a bunch of displaced chinese mongrel-f,U,cked haired Turks. You will be our slave once, go and help your sister in your doner kebab shop, shes getting nailed by Germans icon_lol.gif

Shame on you! Is that the ground on which you stand to discuss and to debate? If it is , that is not the proper way to find a reasonable solution for your problems and reach a multilateral agreement. Regarding your attitude, I have responsibility to remind you that most of the pimps and pederasts in that sex corner #1 in Asia is mostly of Kurdish origin. This also goes for the most of pickpocketers, thieves, drugsellers and many other outlaws and outcasts. In this case you have to excuse Turks when they ask Kurds to go back from civilized cities to mountains and caves where they come out as shepherds. I fall down to the same level of prestige as you, however, this is absolutely inevitable when your rude and immoral attitude is considered.
QUOTE(Dîrî @ 09/05/06 03:44 PM) [snapback]90838[/snapback]
Damn! icon_eek.gif Thanks! Sipasssss birayê delal! Hahahaha icon_lol.gif

I do not think your applause to Kurd Boss' unfair and untrue claims will improve fraternity between Turks and Kurds and help to find bilateral solutions for problems between the two peoples. For people hypocrisy prevails, sincere well-intend does not work . While individuals are applauding insults towards the opponent part, expecting peaceful and social solutions are in vain. I think you are mature enough to think that insulting will irritate sides and makes you away from desired solution.
My sincere fraternal feelings are abused, while you are applauding this ridiculous insults to my nation , on the other hand, you pass your friendly hand to personally to me . Your Credibility in my mind is damaged.
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QUOTE(Dîrî @ 09/06/06 12:44 AM) [snapback]90838[/snapback]
Damn! icon_eek.gif Thanks! Sipasssss birayê delal! Hahahaha icon_lol.gif



Sick little bastid. When you feel insulted you try to act like an angel, but when someone elses family is insulted you go applauding...
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don't you do the same arrow?
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don't you do the same arrow?



No, do you ?
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